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A team.

J McCullough

E McArdle
D McKenna
B Kelly

D Lavery
N Rowland
A Duffy

P Carragher
J Donnelly

R Grugan
A Murnin
A Forker

G McParland
C Rafferty
S Campbell

What about Eugene McVerry? 

whats the score?

2. The players have no respect for Paddy O'Rourke and didnt want him. They think he is useless and know there going nowhere with him in charge.

How do you know this?  its been said a couple of times now and was wondering is there truth to it

People blame the management for Armagh not being fantastic today, but its not O'Rourkes fault the players give the ball straight to the opposition on countless occasions, i'd say nearly all Monaghans points came from either armagh errors out the field or from Free kicks.

On midfield I thought it was a massive improvement, won a lot more break ball and 5 or 6 clean catches.  Toner made 4 clean catches on his own.

never mind have it here:

1. Philip Mc Evoy Dromintee

2. Andy Mallon Pearse Og

3. Brendan Donaghy Clonmore

4. Finnian Moriarty Wolfe Tones

5. Kevin Dyas Dromintee

6. Ciaran Mc Keever St. Patrick's

7. Paul Duffy Pearse Og

8. Kieran Toner Granemore

9. Charlie Vernon Armagh Harps

10 Rory Grugan Ballymacnab

11 Micheal O'Rourke Dromintee

12. Malachy Mackin St. Patrick's

13. Billy Joe Padden Carrickcruppin

14. Gareth Swift Armagh Harps

15. Steven McDonnell Killeavy

16. John Mc Cullagh Carrickcruppin

17. Gavin McParland Ballymacnab

18. Colm Watters Cullaville

19. Conor Clarke Pearse Og

20. John Murtagh Crossmaglen

21. Brian Mallon Tir na nOg

22. Gareth O'Neill Dromintee

23. Declan McKenna Armagh Harps

24. James Lavery Maghery

Looks like a more deliberate synopsis of the usual formation with bjp coming out around the middle to leave 2 inside. Have to say, padden doesn't inspire me - i thought he was awful against the dubs.

We should be beating this monaghan team out the gate - 4/5 point win expected.

I though padden played well in the first half against the Dubs, faded in the second half but its early days yet.  Anyone have the full team listing?

[His kick outs had Armagh under pressure (reminded me of an underage match).]

In my opinion, the difference between the teams was the goal-keepers.

Cluxton was excellent (proved he's the best!). 2 fantastic saves from goal bound efforts & also saved a point. His kick outs were varied & superb!

McEvoy on the other hand, although obviously a fine shot stopper, dithered when it mattered for the 2nd goal - he was certainly favourite for that ball but stopped. His kick outs had Armagh under pressure (reminded me of an underage match).
Vernon brought fantastic intensity to the game, some great clashes with Bastic. Donaghy was excellent.
Nippy was superb.

He can get lenght in them but they hang up.  Hearty can be erratic too but he drives his kicks more than hanging them and that makes a difference.  McEvoy is a good keeper but doesn't inspire confidence, he doesn't command his back line and could have saved both goals.  he did pull off one good save but it was also a tad fortunate.  I would give the McCullough lad his turn in the next game to see what he is made of.

What ever happened Paudi Rodgers?  He was looking like a good keeper a few years ago

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Very enjoyable game on saturday night, the new stand is a credit to the county, absolutely fantastic. I was very impressed with Dublin, they were very effeicient with the ball and kicked very few wides. Looking at the match, they are certainly a year further down the road than Armagh, they were very fit & worryingly much physically stronger and bigger than armagh. The big fella up front for them was excellent as was brogan and i thought their full back did very well. Cluxton made a fabulous save from stevie. For Armagh, I would take a lot of positives, Andy Mallon was great, a return to form after a disappointing season last year. Vernon was terrific, he really creates mayhem when he runs with the ball at defences and his goal was top drawer. I though swift was Armaghs best player 4 great points from play. The goal keeper had a good game but was badly at fault for the goal, dublin just seemed to have an extra gear, but its early in the season. If ARmagh are to progress this year we needto forget about mackin & padden as starters....

Agree about Mackin but I though Padden done OK, only his first start so I'd like to see him get more time. 

From hill16.ie

                            Stephen Cluxton
                                  (Parnell's)

Alan Hubbard               Seán Murray               Michael Fitzsimons               
(Ballymun Kickhams)       (St Brigid's)      (Cuala)

Declan Lally             James McCarthy               Paul Casey (Captain)         
(St Brigid's)   (Ballymun Kickhams)           (Lucan Sarsfields)

            Michael Darragh Macauley       Denis Bastick
(Ballyboden St Enda's) (Templeogue Synge St)

Bryan Cullen               Kevin McManamon           Diarmuid Connolly                     
(Skerries Harps)         (St Jude's)                      (St Vincent's)

Tomás Quinn               Eoghan O'Gara                 Bernard Brogan                 
(St Vincent's)          (Templeogue Synge St)        (St Oliver Plunkett's/Eoghan Ruadh)

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With all due respect to two honest players especially Casey, I can't see why Gilroy is persisting with Casey & Lally at wing back - Darren Daly did well last week and shouldn't have been left out.

dont know a lot about the defenders but that looks like a very strong forward 6, gonna be an interesting match

Just guessing as I'm not sure on fitness of some people

McEvoy

Mallon  Donaghy  Duffy

Dyas   McKeever   McKeena/Feeney

Toner   Lavery

Grugan   Vernon   Swift

McDonnell   B Mallon   McParland

wouldnt be too harsh on O'Rourke just yet, they've been missing maybe 8 players that would normally start and whatever new cross players that would potentially come into the panel.  I'd save the judgements for when he has a full complement of players to pick from

McParland kicked a couple of points and looked pretty good on the ball.  been a long time since we had so many scoring forwards on the panel

how did padden do?

I thought he done well, we were getting destroyed at midfield before he came on, always used the ball well.  Lavery stepped up his game at that stage too though

McParland kicked a couple of points and looked pretty good on the ball.  been a long time since we had so many scoring forwards on the panel

I'd def recommend Vegas, spent 4 nights there and could easily have spend a lot longer.  We went in July tho and it was 45 degrees centigrade so going on a bus is a big no no!  We went on the helicopter at 7.30 in the morning and it was still crazy hot, well worth it tho

Think Oisin has already said he definitely wont be back.  I think he could still do a job but unless he's going to be the difference between winning a championship or not there's no point in him coming back.  Its time to let the younger forwards prove themselves