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Anyone know when the last time Armagh had 2 teams in the competition?
Quote from: armaghniac on October 22, 2012, 09:45:30 PMQuote
Anyone know when the last time Armagh had 2 teams in the competition?
Sure isn't Colman's in Armagh and they are supposed to always in it.
Quote from: topgun on October 22, 2012, 09:51:26 PMQuote from: armaghniac on October 22, 2012, 09:45:30 PMQuote
Anyone know when the last time Armagh had 2 teams in the competition?
Sure isn't Colman's in Armagh and they are supposed to always in it.
Colmans is regarded as a down feeder, majority of the players would be from down, point I was trying to get at, is when was last time Armagh had two schools playing at this level? Omagh and dungannon have supplied a lot of future Tyrone players over the years. It can only be good for Armagh football bessbrook in the A tier of colleges football.
Quote from: hardstation on October 23, 2012, 09:40:39 PM
An Dún?
A school v the current Ulster minor hurling champions?
Sounds fair.
Quote from: topgun on October 22, 2012, 09:51:26 PMQuote from: armaghniac on October 22, 2012, 09:45:30 PMQuote
Anyone know when the last time Armagh had 2 teams in the competition?
Sure isn't Colman's in Armagh and they are supposed to always in it.
Colmans is regarded as a down feeder, majority of the players would be from down, point I was trying to get at, is when was last time Armagh had two schools playing at this level? Omagh and dungannon have supplied a lot of future Tyrone players over the years. It can only be good for Armagh football bessbrook in the A tier of colleges football.
Quote from: hardstation on October 23, 2012, 11:09:27 PMNot sure if there are any. Were there not a few amalgamations this year - nearly sure East Tyrone was one.
Which Down teams do play Mageean?
Quote from: hardstation on October 23, 2012, 11:31:52 PMAssume they are an assortment of players from St Columbas and St Pats Downpatrick etc. Who makes up Divis?
So An Dún is anybody from Down who is still at school?
Fcukin hell!
Quote from: hardstation on October 23, 2012, 11:31:52 PM
So An Dún is anybody from Down who is still at school?
Fcukin hell!
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 24, 2012, 10:25:46 AM
Is it right in saying that these lads have been playing Senior colleges for An Dun and the Casement Cup etc for their own schools, hardly fair if its true.
Quote from: Orior on October 26, 2012, 01:16:23 PM
The offence occured right on the white line. Penalty.
Quote from: theskull1 on October 26, 2012, 04:19:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP8Z-mFM-qE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP8Z-mFM-qE)
11 or 12 steps allowed for the man who delivered the ball in for what I presume was St Marys third goal.
Hate that fecking 'easy easy easy' chant
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on December 08, 2012, 01:23:30 AMOpen to correction but;
Any Craic, good work. I could use a bit of help here. What are the following competitions?
Danske Bank Corn na nOg Cup
McCormick Cup
Rannafast Cup
Casement Cup
Mageean Cup
Don't forget to say if they're hurling or football. I want to add them to that wikipedia page I mentioned elsewhere, the list of GAA competitions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gaelic_Athletic_Association_competitions). In each case, who competes, when does it run, and who is the cup named after? (Casement is obvious enough).
Thanks.
Quote from: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 07:23:13 PM
Heard the Ulster Colleges GAA All Stars team were picked yesterday. Has anyone got the details?
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 15, 2012, 07:30:57 PMQuote from: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 07:23:13 PM
Heard the Ulster Colleges GAA All Stars team were picked yesterday. Has anyone got the details?
St Pats Maghera got 3 footballers and 1 Hurler. Connor Carville (CHB), James Kearney (MF) and Stephen O'Hara (FF) in the football and Gerald Bradley in the Hurling.
Quote from: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 07:39:41 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on December 15, 2012, 07:30:57 PMQuote from: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 07:23:13 PM
Heard the Ulster Colleges GAA All Stars team were picked yesterday. Has anyone got the details?
St Pats Maghera got 3 footballers and 1 Hurler. Connor Carville (CHB), James Kearney (MF) and Stephen O'Hara (FF) in the football and Gerald Bradley in the Hurling.
Good stuff, thought they might have had up to 5 in football. Is the full team up anywhere?
Quote from: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 07:59:40 PM
I don't understand why the awards aren't given out at the end of the competition. Surely more focus should be put on the knock out stages of the competition than on trials. I think this Maghera team will win the competition and 3 might look modest enough by the time 17th March comes around. I'd say St Pauls have Burns and O'Hanlon (only guessing) anyway, not sure about Dungannon but they should have a couple as well.
Quote from: kounty on December 15, 2012, 10:19:11 PM
whos the ticklemister
Quote from: theticklemister on December 15, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
He sounds like quite a guy , a legend so to speak.
Walter I heard a rumour that celtic park is hosting all the nfl games, what ye think about that?
Quote from: kounty on December 15, 2012, 10:02:49 PM
why do the derry schools get so many
and who picks the teams
Quote from: Line Ball on December 15, 2012, 11:10:03 PMQuote from: kounty on December 15, 2012, 10:02:49 PM
why do the derry schools get so many
and who picks the teams
Tony Scullion, enough said. If you are from Derry or are involved with his Ulster U.16 squad then you are guaranteed one.
Also
If you are from a lower level school not playing Macrory, if you are a dual player, if you are a big star on a wee team, if you won an All ireland for your county team last Summer, if you are going to Australia, if you get on your county senior or U.21 squad, if your Da is on the colleges committee, if you won an All Star the year before, if you are the son of a famous inter county star then you are also guaranteed one.
Not relevant
Playing well at these trials or more importantly, winning the Macrory Cup.
Quote from: hardstation on December 15, 2012, 11:11:29 PM
Is that for football only?
Quote from: ONeill on December 15, 2012, 11:17:52 PMYou are 100% correct
The trials are a farce.
Quote from: AFS on December 18, 2012, 12:17:14 AM
(http://www.abbeycbs.org/images/stories/allstarfootball%202012.jpg)
Aaron Beattie - Abbey
Jamie Cosgrove - St. Paul's
Fill in the rest.
Quote from: kounty on December 18, 2012, 05:44:13 PM
did o hanlon from armagh not get one?
Quote from: elk on December 19, 2012, 09:42:49 AM
Must not have been good enough!
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 19, 2012, 11:09:14 AMQuote from: elk on December 19, 2012, 09:42:49 AM
Must not have been good enough!
Trust me he is certainly good enough. He has been injured this past while. He missed the mc Cormick final and maybe a few group games. Perhaps that killeavy man 'Yellowcard' could clarify? ;)
Quote from: AFS on December 18, 2012, 12:17:14 AM
(http://www.abbeycbs.org/images/stories/allstarfootball%202012.jpg)
Aaron Beattie - Abbey
Jamie Cosgrove - St. Paul's
Fill in the rest.
Quote from: elk on December 19, 2012, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on Today at 11:09:14 AM
Quote from: elk on Today at 09:42:49 AM
Must not have been good enough!
Trust me he is certainly good enough. He has been injured this past while. He missed the mc Cormick final and maybe a few group games. Perhaps that killeavy man 'Yellowcard' could clarify? ;)
Now Walter please do NOT tar me with that brush, they are merely neighbours and rivals. I don't know what the situation was but yeah your right he was injured for the McCormack final so he possibly missed trials (though I'm not sure). I don't know much about the quality of the other 6 forwards on the All Star team but I'd be very surprised if O'hanlon isn't among the top 6 in Ulster considering he was asked onto the Armagh SENIOR panel both last year and this year.
Watched the St.Pauls / St. Colmans game on Destintation Newry and O'Hanlon was definitely not the outstanding forward player on the pitch. In fact had to check he was actually on the pitch - don't understand all the hype around this lad. Placing a lot of pressure on young shoulders.
Quote from: elk on December 19, 2012, 04:03:42 PM
Did St Colman's send anyone to the trials ? Hard to believe with their track record that they would have no-one capable of winning a football all-star.
Quote from: yellowcard on December 17, 2012, 05:50:37 PM
McRory Quarter Finals
Dungannon v St McCartans
St Colmans v Omagh
Abbey v Bessbrook
Enniskillen v Maghera
Big derby game with St Pauls Bessbrook and Abbey is the pick of thegames.
Would expect Dungannon, Omagh, Bessbrook, & Maghera to win.
Quote from: elk on December 20, 2012, 08:51:43 AM
Seen O'Hara playing a couple of times this year, very impressive each time. Looks like a good prospect for Derry seniors in the near future.
Quote from: PAULD123 on December 20, 2012, 08:57:45 AMQuote from: yellowcard on December 17, 2012, 05:50:37 PM
McRory Quarter Finals
Dungannon v St McCartans
St Colmans v Omagh
Abbey v Bessbrook
Enniskillen v Maghera
Big derby game with St Pauls Bessbrook and Abbey is the pick of thegames.
Would expect Dungannon, Omagh, Bessbrook, & Maghera to win.
Yellowcard, do you know anyway of finding out when and where the quarter finals will be played?
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 20, 2012, 09:00:50 AMQuote from: elk on December 20, 2012, 08:51:43 AM
Seen O'Hara playing a couple of times this year, very impressive each time. Looks like a good prospect for Derry seniors in the near future.
Long way to go, trust me! Out of the 3 Kearney has most potential.Quote from: PAULD123 on December 20, 2012, 08:57:45 AMQuote from: yellowcard on December 17, 2012, 05:50:37 PM
McRory Quarter Finals
Dungannon v St McCartans
St Colmans v Omagh
Abbey v Bessbrook
Enniskillen v Maghera
Big derby game with St Pauls Bessbrook and Abbey is the pick of thegames.
Would expect Dungannon, Omagh, Bessbrook, & Maghera to win.
Yellowcard, do you know anyway of finding out when and where the quarter finals will be played?
That won't be announced until the new year at the earliest.
I agreed with Dungannon, Omagh and Maghera but I think the St.Pauls / Abbey will be a tight game which could go either way.
Quote from: elk on December 19, 2012, 02:44:41 PMHe was injured that day
Quote from: Walter Cronc on Today at 11:09:14 AM
Quote from: elk on Today at 09:42:49 AM
Must not have been good enough!
Trust me he is certainly good enough. He has been injured this past while. He missed the mc Cormick final and maybe a few group games. Perhaps that killeavy man 'Yellowcard' could clarify? ;)
Now Walter please do NOT tar me with that brush, they are merely neighbours and rivals. I don't know what the situation was but yeah your right he was injured for the McCormack final so he possibly missed trials (though I'm not sure). I don't know much about the quality of the other 6 forwards on the All Star team but I'd be very surprised if O'hanlon isn't among the top 6 in Ulster considering he was asked onto the Armagh SENIOR panel both last year and this year.
Watched the St.Pauls / St. Colmans game on Destintation Newry and O'Hanlon was definitely not the outstanding forward player on the pitch. In fact had to check he was actually on the pitch - don't understand all the hype around this lad. Placing a lot of pressure on young shoulders.
Quote from: elk on December 19, 2012, 02:44:41 PM
Watched the St.Pauls / St. Colmans game on Destintation Newry and O'Hanlon was definitely not the outstanding forward player on the pitch. In fact had to check he was actually on the pitch - don't understand all the hype around this lad. Placing a lot of pressure on young shoulders.
Quote from: kounty on December 21, 2012, 04:24:54 PM
well o hanlon did only score 7pts against tyrone in minor game and armagh seniors want him so i suppose your right players who didnt even play county football this year deserved the award more.
Quote from: elk on December 26, 2012, 10:17:57 PM
Seen him a few times really dont think he is that impressive
Quote from: elk on December 20, 2012, 08:51:43 AMYou clearly didn't see the quarter final! He nearly cost maghera the game!
Seen O'Hara playing a couple of times this year, very impressive each time. Looks like a good prospect for Derry seniors in the near future.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on February 23, 2013, 09:58:01 AM
Jesus. That's a very harsh comment to place on a public forum about an 18 year old amateur sportsman
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
For all the slating they get, and at times justifiably so BBC NI have got highlights from yesterday's Mac Rory semi final up. See link below.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/21559486?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
What's the story with Jerome Quinn and the Ulster Colleges? Maybe Any Craic can clarify?? Jerome had the highlights up in no time when he was over them. Now we have a very poor and late response from the official colleges site regarding highlights.
Quote from: yellowcard on February 24, 2013, 06:58:10 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
For all the slating they get, and at times justifiably so BBC NI have got highlights from yesterday's Mac Rory semi final up. See link below.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/21559486?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
What's the story with Jerome Quinn and the Ulster Colleges? Maybe Any Craic can clarify?? Jerome had the highlights up in no time when he was over them. Now we have a very poor and late response from the official colleges site regarding highlights.
I think he may have been in Athlone at the Sigerson Cup, I suppose its hard to be everywhere.
Very hard competition to call at this stage. Any of Maghera, St Colmans or Bessbrook could win it but I'd fancy the winner may come from this weeks replay.
Think St Colmans might have their Hogan Cup winning midfielder Gough back for the replay so they might be slight favourites but its still hard to call.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2013, 07:08:13 PMQuote from: yellowcard on February 24, 2013, 06:58:10 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
For all the slating they get, and at times justifiably so BBC NI have got highlights from yesterday's Mac Rory semi final up. See link below.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/21559486?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
What's the story with Jerome Quinn and the Ulster Colleges? Maybe Any Craic can clarify?? Jerome had the highlights up in no time when he was over them. Now we have a very poor and late response from the official colleges site regarding highlights.
I think he may have been in Athlone at the Sigerson Cup, I suppose its hard to be everywhere.
Very hard competition to call at this stage. Any of Maghera, St Colmans or Bessbrook could win it but I'd fancy the winner may come from this weeks replay.
Think St Colmans might have their Hogan Cup winning midfielder Gough back for the replay so they might be slight favourites but its still hard to call.
You could be right there regarding the Sigerson. I just thought ulster colleges might want exclusive rights to the highlights and they weren't uploading them as quick! I agree that any one of the last four could win it and I certainly wouldnt rule out the SEM. Any team that beats a very strong Dungannon side deserves respect!
Am I right in saying that midfielder is Conor Goughs younger brother?? Did he play in the Hogan winning side?? I though Haughey was the only remaining player from that team. Maghera will also have Connor Carville returning at centre back as he missed the game through illness. Tight game in store!!
Quote from: theticklemister on February 24, 2013, 05:55:11 PM
Any craic is the man. Well done Jerome... Ahem sorry Mr. Craic.
Quote from: 45 on February 24, 2013, 09:22:17 PM
Don't judge a Colemans team on group stage games always a big mistake to make
Quote from: our_fella on February 27, 2013, 01:28:04 PM
Anyone know where the finals are being held this year?
Back to Casement? or in Armagh again??
Cheers
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 27, 2013, 05:09:23 PM
Yer jokin
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 05:12:12 PMQuote from: DuffleKing on February 27, 2013, 05:09:23 PM
Yer jokin
No more a joke than Maghera having to play a Rannafast final in Emyvale last year!
Quote from: AFS on February 27, 2013, 07:23:01 PM
St. Paul's V St. McCartan's on now.
http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv/
Quote from: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 08:01:32 PM
did anyone else think that was a clear penalty???
Quote from: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 07:37:46 PMQuote from: AFS on February 27, 2013, 07:23:01 PM
St. Paul's V St. McCartan's on now.
http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv/
Commentator...............
'This team from Bessbrook needs to stand up to theteam from the south!' lol
Shocking
Quote from: ranch on February 27, 2013, 08:07:30 PMQuote from: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 07:37:46 PMQuote from: AFS on February 27, 2013, 07:23:01 PM
St. Paul's V St. McCartan's on now.
http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv/
Commentator...............
'This team from Bessbrook needs to stand up to theteam from the south!' lol
Shocking
The commentator you mention is widely recognised as an idiot around south Armagh and Newry.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 08:09:55 PM
Rafferty and the SEM coach arguing. Typical Rafferty!!
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 27, 2013, 08:42:11 PM
Who do St. Paul's play next?
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
Who said that?
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
Who said that?
Quote from: The Worker on February 27, 2013, 10:29:43 PM
Is the mc Laren final in Derry also?
Quote from: ranch on February 27, 2013, 10:32:57 PMQuote from: The Worker on February 27, 2013, 10:29:43 PM
Is the mc Laren final in Derry also?
Finals will most likely be in Armagh on the 18th.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on February 27, 2013, 11:50:37 PM
McLarnon and Macrory finals scheduled for Athletic Grounds on 18 March starting at 1.15
Quote from: theticklemister on February 28, 2013, 07:54:14 AMQuote from: Dougal Maguire on February 27, 2013, 11:50:37 PM
McLarnon and Macrory finals scheduled for Athletic Grounds on 18 March starting at 1.15
Joking aside Dougal; is that true?
It was put down for Celtic Park this year. They must have lost it.
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 10:19:48 AM
Rafferty and O'Rourke seem to have done a hell of a job and not just at MacRory level if stories are to be believed. Also last night there seemed to be any numbet of other fellas around the team at different stages - other teachers I presume
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
What has changed is that in the last number of years incoming principal Oliver Mooney (Cullaville) put sport and football in particular at the level of focus that it should be for a school of that size and demographic.
Inexplicably, until recent developments with staff and coaching priorities football was largely ignored. You can imagine the sort of playing resources that would always have been available to a school which the overwhelming majority of males in s armagh would have attended. That the only school teams taken semi seriously for decades were soccer teams was such a waste. There is an extensive list of future armagh greats who went thru st pauls but many woukdnt even have seen a GAA jersey in their time.
Now they have started to harness that talent they will have the same potential as a school like maghera on an ongoing basis.
Traditionally any decent s armagh footballer who could get in would have travelled to colmans or abbey but if st pauls are starting to be seen on a footballing par with those schools that may begin to change
Quote from: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 11:54:18 AMQuote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
What has changed is that in the last number of years incoming principal Oliver Mooney (Cullaville) put sport and football in particular at the level of focus that it should be for a school of that size and demographic.
Inexplicably, until recent developments with staff and coaching priorities football was largely ignored. You can imagine the sort of playing resources that would always have been available to a school which the overwhelming majority of males in s armagh would have attended. That the only school teams taken semi seriously for decades were soccer teams was such a waste. There is an extensive list of future armagh greats who went thru st pauls but many woukdnt even have seen a GAA jersey in their time.
Now they have started to harness that talent they will have the same potential as a school like maghera on an ongoing basis.
Traditionally any decent s armagh footballer who could get in would have travelled to colmans or abbey but if st pauls are starting to be seen on a footballing par with those schools that may begin to change
I would assume the 11 plus or whatever replaces it would be the reason why pupils go to one rather than the other. St Pauls isnt a grammer unlike St Colmans and the Abbey. I doubt parents would send their child to st Pauls over the other 2 for footballing reasons if they get the 11 plus. After all st colmans are by far the most successfuly college in footballing terms in Ulster.
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 12:17:47 PMQuote from: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 11:54:18 AMQuote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
What has changed is that in the last number of years incoming principal Oliver Mooney (Cullaville) put sport and football in particular at the level of focus that it should be for a school of that size and demographic.
Inexplicably, until recent developments with staff and coaching priorities football was largely ignored. You can imagine the sort of playing resources that would always have been available to a school which the overwhelming majority of males in s armagh would have attended. That the only school teams taken semi seriously for decades were soccer teams was such a waste. There is an extensive list of future armagh greats who went thru st pauls but many woukdnt even have seen a GAA jersey in their time.
Now they have started to harness that talent they will have the same potential as a school like maghera on an ongoing basis.
Traditionally any decent s armagh footballer who could get in would have travelled to colmans or abbey but if st pauls are starting to be seen on a footballing par with those schools that may begin to change
I would assume the 11 plus or whatever replaces it would be the reason why pupils go to one rather than the other. St Pauls isnt a grammer unlike St Colmans and the Abbey. I doubt parents would send their child to st Pauls over the other 2 for footballing reasons if they get the 11 plus. After all st colmans are by far the most successfuly college in footballing terms in Ulster.
You don't really get the football dynamic in s armagh if you believe that because many post primary school decisions are more than a little coloured by the perceived football development capacity of the school. It is not very difficult to get into St Colman's academically.
Quote from: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 01:58:28 PMQuote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 12:17:47 PMQuote from: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 11:54:18 AMQuote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
What has changed is that in the last number of years incoming principal Oliver Mooney (Cullaville) put sport and football in particular at the level of focus that it should be for a school of that size and demographic.
Inexplicably, until recent developments with staff and coaching priorities football was largely ignored. You can imagine the sort of playing resources that would always have been available to a school which the overwhelming majority of males in s armagh would have attended. That the only school teams taken semi seriously for decades were soccer teams was such a waste. There is an extensive list of future armagh greats who went thru st pauls but many woukdnt even have seen a GAA jersey in their time.
Now they have started to harness that talent they will have the same potential as a school like maghera on an ongoing basis.
Traditionally any decent s armagh footballer who could get in would have travelled to colmans or abbey but if st pauls are starting to be seen on a footballing par with those schools that may begin to change
I would assume the 11 plus or whatever replaces it would be the reason why pupils go to one rather than the other. St Pauls isnt a grammer unlike St Colmans and the Abbey. I doubt parents would send their child to st Pauls over the other 2 for footballing reasons if they get the 11 plus. After all st colmans are by far the most successfuly college in footballing terms in Ulster.
You don't really get the football dynamic in s armagh if you believe that because many post primary school decisions are more than a little coloured by the perceived football development capacity of the school. It is not very difficult to get into St Colman's academically.
Your right its not if you get your 11 plus or whatever the equivalent is now, and a lot of kids fail this who would be more than capable for any grammer school.
I think parents would make the academic decision for their kids if it would be better for them academically to go to the Abbey or St Colmans. you would have to seriously question a parent who would put an amateur sport ahead of their childs future. Crossmaglen as we all know is a great Gaelic football area how do St Josephs Crossmaglen get on at the level they partake in??
Quote from: ranch on February 28, 2013, 04:46:29 PMQuote from: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 01:58:28 PMQuote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 12:17:47 PMQuote from: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 11:54:18 AMQuote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
What has changed is that in the last number of years incoming principal Oliver Mooney (Cullaville) put sport and football in particular at the level of focus that it should be for a school of that size and demographic.
Inexplicably, until recent developments with staff and coaching priorities football was largely ignored. You can imagine the sort of playing resources that would always have been available to a school which the overwhelming majority of males in s armagh would have attended. That the only school teams taken semi seriously for decades were soccer teams was such a waste. There is an extensive list of future armagh greats who went thru st pauls but many woukdnt even have seen a GAA jersey in their time.
Now they have started to harness that talent they will have the same potential as a school like maghera on an ongoing basis.
Traditionally any decent s armagh footballer who could get in would have travelled to colmans or abbey but if st pauls are starting to be seen on a footballing par with those schools that may begin to change
I would assume the 11 plus or whatever replaces it would be the reason why pupils go to one rather than the other. St Pauls isnt a grammer unlike St Colmans and the Abbey. I doubt parents would send their child to st Pauls over the other 2 for footballing reasons if they get the 11 plus. After all st colmans are by far the most successfuly college in footballing terms in Ulster.
You don't really get the football dynamic in s armagh if you believe that because many post primary school decisions are more than a little coloured by the perceived football development capacity of the school. It is not very difficult to get into St Colman's academically.
Your right its not if you get your 11 plus or whatever the equivalent is now, and a lot of kids fail this who would be more than capable for any grammer school.
I think parents would make the academic decision for their kids if it would be better for them academically to go to the Abbey or St Colmans. you would have to seriously question a parent who would put an amateur sport ahead of their childs future. Crossmaglen as we all know is a great Gaelic football area how do St Josephs Crossmaglen get on at the level they partake in??
St. Paul's has a great academic record, especially for a non selective school.
Quote from: snoopdog on March 02, 2013, 02:14:26 PM
think its a 2pm throw in
Quote from: snoopdog on March 02, 2013, 02:37:17 PMmaghera win by 2. st colmans blasted a pen over the bar. better team won thoughQuote from: snoopdog on March 02, 2013, 02:14:26 PM
think its a 2pm throw in
maghera lead 1.05 to 0.06 at HT
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 02, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
Not so sure about that. I think they'll be happy not playing St Colman's. I also think that with a lot of the team having been part of last years All Ireland winning team they should not let the occasion get to them. Someone suggested to me that the McCormack Cup defeat was the first time that group of lads had lost a final from they started at the school
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 02, 2013, 05:48:43 PMSt Paul's won the McCormick Cup beating Maghera with a last minute goal.
Not so sure about that. I think they'll be happy not playing St Colman's. I also think that with a lot of the team having been part of last years All Ireland winning team they should not let the occasion get to them. Someone suggested to me that the McCormack Cup defeat was the first time that group of lads had lost a final from they started at the school
Quote from: Carnview on March 03, 2013, 12:04:40 PMQuote from: Dougal Maguire on March 02, 2013, 05:48:43 PMSt Paul's won the McCormick Cup beating Maghera with a last minute goal.
Not so sure about that. I think they'll be happy not playing St Colman's. I also think that with a lot of the team having been part of last years All Ireland winning team they should not let the occasion get to them. Someone suggested to me that the McCormack Cup defeat was the first time that group of lads had lost a final from they started at the school
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 03:01:59 PMWell hopefully their involvement in last year's MacRory defeat to St Michaels will spur them on this year!Quote from: Carnview on March 03, 2013, 12:04:40 PMQuote from: Dougal Maguire on March 02, 2013, 05:48:43 PMSt Paul's won the McCormick Cup beating Maghera with a last minute goal.
Not so sure about that. I think they'll be happy not playing St Colman's. I also think that with a lot of the team having been part of last years All Ireland winning team they should not let the occasion get to them. Someone suggested to me that the McCormack Cup defeat was the first time that group of lads had lost a final from they started at the school
Think he is referring to Maghera here Carnview. It's true that this year group has never lost a final all the way through. I wouldn't call the Mac Cormick a proper competition though!
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 03:01:59 PMQuote from: Carnview on March 03, 2013, 12:04:40 PMQuote from: Dougal Maguire on March 02, 2013, 05:48:43 PMSt Paul's won the McCormick Cup beating Maghera with a last minute goal.
Not so sure about that. I think they'll be happy not playing St Colman's. I also think that with a lot of the team having been part of last years All Ireland winning team they should not let the occasion get to them. Someone suggested to me that the McCormack Cup defeat was the first time that group of lads had lost a final from they started at the school
Think he is referring to Maghera here Carnview. It's true that this year group has never lost a final all the way through. I wouldn't call the Mac Cormick a proper competition though!
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 03, 2013, 06:43:40 PM
Not so sure about that. The fact that they chose to play the Glen lads would suggest they were going for it
Quote from: Line Ball on March 03, 2013, 07:15:02 PMQuote from: Dougal Maguire on March 03, 2013, 06:43:40 PM
Not so sure about that. The fact that they chose to play the Glen lads would suggest they were going for it
They didn't choose to play them, they were ordered to. Apparently Maghera were told on the day of the Mc Cormick final that if they didn't play their full team against Bessbrook that they would be thrown out of the MacRory and Glen Maghera would not be permitted to play in the St Pauls tournament. They didn't intend playing the Glen boys but had to put a strong team out under pressure from Ulster Colleges and Danske Bank.
Quote from: Line Ball on March 03, 2013, 08:08:37 PM
Thanks Rawhide for clarification. I hear that Maghera were run close yesterday and the same last week. They have been a standout team the whole way through the MacRory and in previous years as well. Hope they do well against the 'non selective' opposition that we keep hearing about - change the record please!
Quote from: brogin41 on March 03, 2013, 08:38:20 PM
Who are the Ulster Colleges playin in the semi finals!
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 11:22:06 PM
Perhaps he would be best not talking about it then. In doing so he is making the issue public!
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 11:22:06 PM
Perhaps he would be best not talking about it then. In doing so he is making the issue public!
Quote from: Line Ball on March 04, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
Why would any school use selection as a means of motivation? That is just clean mad!
Whats coming across in the interviews after the games is that St Pauls are attempting to display a siege mentality – that everybody is against them ! Now they are up against a school with a similar admissions policy as themselves. What are they going to use as motivation now?
Quote from: Line Ball on March 04, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
Why would any school use selection as a means of motivation? That is just clean mad!
Whats coming across in the interviews after the games is that St Pauls are attempting to display a siege mentality – that everybody is against them ! Now they are up against a school with a similar admissions policy as themselves. What are they going to use as motivation now?
Quote from: Orchardman on March 04, 2013, 07:28:23 PMQuote from: Line Ball on March 04, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
Why would any school use selection as a means of motivation? That is just clean mad!
Whats coming across in the interviews after the games is that St Pauls are attempting to display a siege mentality – that everybody is against them ! Now they are up against a school with a similar admissions policy as themselves. What are they going to use as motivation now?
I attended a non selective and have since taught in a couple, and I honestly hope St pauls win it as it is a fine school. But I agree with you in regards to any interviews I have seen this year on the ulster colleges website, which there have been plenty. Every time Jerome quinn asks a question there is a pile of talk about representing a great bunch of kids who other schools turn away. This is grand but i must have heard it 6 or 7 times at this stage. There shouldn't be any inferior or siege mentality, St Paul's has around 1600 pupils( yes, half of them are girls, just like maghera), with the main pick of south armagh! Yes it's the first year in the cup i know but I am glad to see them there and great to see them beat st colmans and abbey.
Probably not the thread for this but I think the N.I system is fine as it is, St colmans and abbey in newry are 2 fine school's as they are, and St Paul's is a fine comprehensive school, the government have plans ahead about trying to change it but I can't see it.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 04, 2013, 08:09:10 PMQuote from: Orchardman on March 04, 2013, 07:28:23 PMQuote from: Line Ball on March 04, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
Why would any school use selection as a means of motivation? That is just clean mad!
Whats coming across in the interviews after the games is that St Pauls are attempting to display a siege mentality – that everybody is against them ! Now they are up against a school with a similar admissions policy as themselves. What are they going to use as motivation now?
I attended a non selective and have since taught in a couple, and I honestly hope St pauls win it as it is a fine school. But I agree with you in regards to any interviews I have seen this year on the ulster colleges website, which there have been plenty. Every time Jerome quinn asks a question there is a pile of talk about representing a great bunch of kids who other schools turn away. This is grand but i must have heard it 6 or 7 times at this stage. There shouldn't be any inferior or siege mentality, St Paul's has around 1600 pupils( yes, half of them are girls, just like maghera), with the main pick of south armagh! Yes it's the first year in the cup i know but I am glad to see them there and great to see them beat st colmans and abbey.
Probably not the thread for this but I think the N.I system is fine as it is, St colmans and abbey in newry are 2 fine school's as they are, and St Paul's is a fine comprehensive school, the government have plans ahead about trying to change it but I can't see it.
Totally agree orchardman. As an ex Maghera man I'm very proud to have come through the comp system but I never once have looked negatively towards St Mary's Magherafelt. It's not an issue in St Pats. We are proud of who we are and don't worry about other schools. By constantly mentioning it Rafferty is actually giving these kids a complex!
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 04, 2013, 11:04:14 PM
Methinks the debate which Rafferty's comments has started would suggest he's winning the mind games
Quote from: Orchardman on March 04, 2013, 07:28:23 PMQuote from: Line Ball on March 04, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
Why would any school use selection as a means of motivation? That is just clean mad!
Whats coming across in the interviews after the games is that St Pauls are attempting to display a siege mentality – that everybody is against them ! Now they are up against a school with a similar admissions policy as themselves. What are they going to use as motivation now?
I attended a non selective and have since taught in a couple, and I honestly hope St pauls win it as it is a fine school. But I agree with you in regards to any interviews I have seen this year on the ulster colleges website, which there have been plenty. Every time Jerome quinn asks a question there is a pile of talk about representing a great bunch of kids who other schools turn away. This is grand but i must have heard it 6 or 7 times at this stage. There shouldn't be any inferior or siege mentality, St Paul's has around 1600 pupils( yes, half of them are girls, just like maghera), with the main pick of south armagh! Yes it's the first year in the cup i know but I am glad to see them there and great to see them beat st colmans and abbey.
Probably not the thread for this but I think the N.I system is fine as it is, St colmans and abbey in newry are 2 fine school's as they are, and St Paul's is a fine comprehensive school, the government have plans ahead about trying to change it but I can't see it.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 04, 2013, 11:04:14 PM
Methinks the debate which Rafferty's comments has started would suggest he's winning the mind games
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 04, 2013, 08:09:10 PM
Totally agree orchardman. As an ex Maghera man I'm very proud to have come through the comp system but I never once have looked negatively towards St Mary's Magherafelt. It's not an issue in St Pats. We are proud of who we are and don't worry about other schools. By constantly mentioning it Rafferty is actually giving these kids a complex!
Quote from: hardstation on March 05, 2013, 12:10:33 AMQuote from: rodney trotter on March 05, 2013, 12:05:07 AMNot sure what you mean here. Having a knock out would mean some teams would have 1 match in the year. Not great.Quote from: hardstation on March 04, 2013, 11:54:00 PM
Asked a boy this evening what the story is with Bessbrook i.e a one off great squad of players or will they stay in the top flight for a while. He toul me that they play B football in every other grade and seems to think they'll want to return to McLarnon after this year. I asked him would they be able to return to McLarnon next year if they win the MacRory final or would they have to defend their title (even though it won't be with the same players). He reckoned they will have a hard time getting back into B football next year but still thought they would be pushing for it.
I'll be supporting them anyway. Great to see a team like that coming up and getting a rattle at it.
Any reason why they don't play Macrory as knock out? - the League basis before christmass leaves players with no competitive football after December, if their team doesn't reach the quarter final.
Works in Leinster, College Level - Ryan Cup etc.
Quote from: hardstation on March 04, 2013, 11:54:00 PMwould be disappointed if this happened,
Asked a boy this evening what the story is with Bessbrook i.e a one off great squad of players or will they stay in the top flight for a while. He toul me that they play B football in every other grade and seems to think they'll want to return to McLarnon after this year. I asked him would they be able to return to McLarnon next year if they win the MacRory final or would they have to defend their title (even though it won't be with the same players.
Quote from: NP 76 on March 05, 2013, 08:21:07 AMAs far as I know the land belonged to the Parish rather than the College. But regardless it's great to see St Joes get. Full size pitch and hopefully success on the pitch will follow
Yes saw that Dougal fair play to them but only for the College giving them ground to expand it wouldnt of had the room so fair play to them also not all bad !!
Quote from: our_fella on March 06, 2013, 10:57:54 PMyes when omagh had no chance
Omagh having no chance in the competition?
Take a day off naka
Quote from: naka on March 07, 2013, 07:44:22 PMQuote from: our_fella on March 06, 2013, 10:57:54 PMyes when omagh had no chance
Omagh having no chance in the competition?
Take a day off naka
i played mc crory for 3 years in the 80s( actually have a medal 8)) and omagh were whipping boys then
in fact it was as it is now college and maghera who were the serious contenders year in year out
never played for either
Quote from: snoopdog on March 08, 2013, 09:41:16 AMQuote from: naka on March 07, 2013, 07:44:22 PMQuote from: our_fella on March 06, 2013, 10:57:54 PMyes when omagh had no chance
Omagh having no chance in the competition?
Take a day off naka
i played mc crory for 3 years in the 80s( actually have a medal 8)) and omagh were whipping boys then
in fact it was as it is now college and maghera who were the serious contenders year in year out
never played for either
So your either Abbey or St Marys CBS Belfast so.
Team Titles Winning Years 1 St Colman's College, Newry 19 1949, 1950, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1963, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1988, 1993, 1998, 2010, 2011 2 St. Patrick's Grammar School, Armagh 14 1923, 1924, 1925, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1931, 1944, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1953, 2000 3 St. Patrick's College, Maghera 12 1977, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1989, 1990, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2003 4 St. Patrick's College, Cavan 11 1935, 1936, 1937, 1939, 1943, 1948, 1951, 1955, 1961, 1962, 1972 5 St. Macartan's, Monaghan 9 1925, 1930, 1932, 1933, 1934, 1940, 1942, 1952, 1956 6 St. Michael's College, Enniskillen 6 1973, 1992, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2012 7 Abbey CBS, Newry 5 1954, 1959, 1964, 1987, 2006 8 St. Patrick's Academy, Dungannon 5 1991, 1997, 2004, 2008, 2009 9 Omagh CBS 4 1974, 2001, 2005, 2007 10 St. Malachy's, Belfast 2 1925, 1970 St. Mary's Dundalk 2 1938, 1941 St. Columb's, Derry 2 1965, 1966 St Marys CBGS Belfast 2 1971, 1986 |
Quote from: Rawhide on March 08, 2013, 11:35:38 AM
Abbey won it in the 87[/quote
Team Titles Winning Years
1 St Colman's College, Newry 19 1949, 1950, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1963, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1988, 1993, 1998, 2010, 2011
2 St. Patrick's Grammar School, Armagh 14 1923, 1924, 1925, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1931, 1944, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1953, 2000
3 St. Patrick's College, Maghera 12 1977, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1989, 1990, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2003
4 St. Patrick's College, Cavan 11 1935, 1936, 1937, 1939, 1943, 1948, 1951, 1955, 1961, 1962, 1972
5 St. Macartan's, Monaghan 9 1925, 1930, 1932, 1933, 1934, 1940, 1942, 1952, 1956
6 St. Michael's College, Enniskillen 6 1973, 1992, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2012
7 Abbey CBS, Newry 5 1954, 1959, 1964, 1987, 2006
8 St. Patrick's Academy, Dungannon 5 1991, 1997, 2004, 2008, 2009
9 Omagh CBS 4 1974, 2001, 2005, 2007
10 St. Malachy's, Belfast 2 1925, 1970
St. Mary's Dundalk 2 1938, 1941
St. Columb's, Derry 2 1965, 1966
St Marys CBGS Belfast 2 1971, 1986
did Abbey not also win it in 82 by default? from st patricks Maghera
st marys belfast in 86 had a great side as did st pats Armagh in 87( college beat them in the semi)
Quote from: ranch on March 05, 2013, 10:13:23 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on March 05, 2013, 08:38:56 PM
the age different is u18 to u181/2 not u-19 that some people are making out. It allows anyone within that final school year the ability to play football for the school. there were plenty at my school who couldn't play minor football for their county or club with me but still could play at colleges level.
Exactly. I was overage for my club minor team whilst still playing for the school. If it was u19 you'd have boys repeating years at school to keep playing!
Quote from: Line Ball on March 08, 2013, 07:07:49 PM
That explains the posts about St Pauls then ;)
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 08, 2013, 07:12:39 PMQuote from: Line Ball on March 08, 2013, 07:07:49 PM
That explains the posts about St Pauls then ;)
I think he was Jarlath Burns!!
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 08, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
No. Burns was a College man
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 11:44:38 AM
Predictions for Monday folks??
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!
Quote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 01:00:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!
How has it been made to accommodate Armagh/Newry schools?
Quote from: Rawhide on March 15, 2013, 01:13:14 PMQuote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 01:00:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!
How has it been made to accommodate Armagh/Newry schools?
well wasn't the venue changed from Celtic Park, and Higgins has a history as long as your arm of shafting Derry teams
Quote from: Rawhide on March 15, 2013, 01:13:14 PMQuote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 01:00:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!
How has it been made to accommodate Armagh/Newry schools?
well wasn't the venue changed from Celtic Park, and Higgins has a history as long as your arm of shafting Derry teams
Quote from: Rawhide on March 15, 2013, 01:13:14 PMQuote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 01:00:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!
How has it been made to accommodate Armagh/Newry schools?
well wasn't the venue changed from Celtic Park, and Higgins has a history as long as your arm of shafting Derry teams
Quote from: theticklemister on March 15, 2013, 01:31:20 PMQuote from: Rawhide on March 15, 2013, 01:13:14 PMQuote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 01:00:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!
How has it been made to accommodate Armagh/Newry schools?
well wasn't the venue changed from Celtic Park, and Higgins has a history as long as your arm of shafting Derry teams
Ah to be fair a load of them Maghera boys are glad the game is not in celtic park lol!
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 02:05:42 PM
well wasn't the venue changed from Celtic Park, and Higgins has a history as long as your arm of shafting Derry teams
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 02:05:42 PM
The South Armagh men have kept quiet on the verbal abuse by Rafferty towards a St Pats player following the Mc Cormick Cup final...
Quote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 02:27:32 PM
Can't help but think Walter Cronc is on the wind up here.. :)
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 02:34:11 PMQuote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 02:27:32 PM
Can't help but think Walter Cronc is on the wind up here.. :)
Not when it involves a player from my club!
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 02:41:39 PM
I have nothing against the school, what I dont accept is the way he behaved to a minor!
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 16, 2013, 02:46:43 PM
So what's your problem then
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 16, 2013, 12:55:23 PM
Ah it's Armaghs county ground!! I'm sure these players have had numerous games/training sessions there over the years. Anyway Maghera have won it there before and can do so again!
Quote from: ranch on March 16, 2013, 07:10:37 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 16, 2013, 12:55:23 PM
Ah it's Armaghs county ground!! I'm sure these players have had numerous games/training sessions there over the years. Anyway Maghera have won it there before and can do so again!
Really? Thanks for pointing that out to all of us. Just as well Armagh aren't playing there on Monday then.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 16, 2013, 08:38:56 PMQuote from: ranch on March 16, 2013, 07:10:37 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 16, 2013, 12:55:23 PM
Ah it's Armaghs county ground!! I'm sure these players have had numerous games/training sessions there over the years. Anyway Maghera have won it there before and can do so again!
Really? Thanks for pointing that out to all of us. Just as well Armagh aren't playing there on Monday then.
Obv never got the sarcasm there.
Quote from: Line Ball on March 16, 2013, 09:15:52 PM
I managed to catch a fair bit of the interviews by 5FM in both St Louis and St Pauls this week. The difference in approach was staggering and I feel that St Louis made a much better job of showing their school in a better light.
In St Louis they let the pupils speak for themselves, visiting a number of classes live on air, talking to the kids and tachers in the classes, talking about the school and their chances in the final, as well as talking to a number of the players and management about their chances in the final. It came across as an excellent PR event for St Louis, really selling their school and the pupils really sold their school on air. The football people seemed focused on the game and knew alot about their opposition, happy to talk about what it meant to them all.
St Pauls on the other hand wanted to talk about anything other than the Macrory final. They talked to very few kids throughout the show and it actually was 11.20 before they actually spoke to someone from the school even though the programme began at 10.00. They listened to their choir and he major emphasis was the the VP who couldn't say enough about the job he was doing with his links in the primary schools and how St Pauls had such wonderful kids with all their kids coming from a particular mile radius of the school and how he used his laptop to compile a database of the talents of these pupils and then informed all teachers of the talents of these kids when they came into the school. A few teachers mentioned the great push to 'sell' the good wishes posters put up on the poles on the way to St Pauls and I'm sure at £50 a pop that St Pauls have done well out of this! The same was said briefly by the principal about the wonderful kids at St Pauls and by the Macrory team management who had a few words at the end but little mention of the match.
Its just amazing the difference in approach. If had been a match, St Louis won have won hands down.
Quote from: Oraisteach on March 17, 2013, 03:35:35 PM
ranch, when is the match, and is it on tv or radio?
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 09:05:40 AM
Who is best to follow on twitter for updates today lads?
Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 18, 2013, 12:42:58 PM
Lurgan 1-06 1-04 Kilkeel
Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 18, 2013, 01:34:05 PM
Flukey goal. St Paul's 0-3 1-1 St Pats
Quote from: Orior on March 18, 2013, 12:50:35 PMQuote from: All of a Sludden on March 18, 2013, 12:42:58 PM
Lurgan 1-06 1-04 Kilkeel
The Lurgan team must be about 70% from Clann Eireann. They must have a good set up in that club.
Quote from: AFS on March 18, 2013, 02:45:06 PM
Very hard on St. Paul's there, thought they deserved at least a draw. Maghera really hanging on in the end. Flukey first goal for Maghera and a lot of bad wides from St. Paul's the difference in the end.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 02:58:39 PM
O'Hanlons at the end when he clearly charged??
Quote from: AFS on March 18, 2013, 03:04:43 PM
Thought the ref gave a load of handy frees throughout the game. Didn't think either side was really favoured over the other. Could have been more than two minutes injury time, that one was of particular benefit to Maghera.
Quote from: ranch on March 18, 2013, 03:03:34 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 02:58:39 PM
O'Hanlons at the end when he clearly charged??
50/50. I've seen them given either way on many occasions, as I'm sure all of us have.
You think that one incident justifies your statement that he favoured St. Paul's for the entire 2nd half?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2013, 03:07:42 PMQuote from: AFS on March 18, 2013, 03:04:43 PM
Thought the ref gave a load of handy frees throughout the game. Didn't think either side was really favoured over the other. Could have been more than two minutes injury time, that one was of particular benefit to Maghera.
Didn't give any injury time in the first half which is rare
Quote from: ONeill on March 18, 2013, 03:15:46 PM
Many of that Bessbrook team available next year?
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 03:47:57 PM
No idea really about the Hogan. Think they play the Connacht champs. I assume Jarlaths?? I heard Edenderry have lots back from last year! In saying that Im not even sure who the provincial champs are. Hopefully they can go on a run!!
Quote from: Jinxy on March 18, 2013, 04:22:21 PM
Edenderry are out lads.
Pats Navan beat them in the Leinster final a couple of weeks ago.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 18, 2013, 04:31:29 PM
Tactically St Paul's were caught out,particularly in the first half. It was so obvious that that O'Docherty at no 10 was sweeping everything infront of O'Hanlon. Eoghan Burns should have been pushed right up onto him and occupy him. Instead he simply swept up all the loose passes and cut down the space into O'Hanlon. I also thought that physically Maghera were stronger than Bessbrook. Bessbrook rarely were able to break through into the space as they were physically bottled up but the Magera lads seemed to get the ball in space a lot easier and were able to win the 1 on 1 battles easier. Still a lucky goal won it and as St Brigid's showed the luck generally favours the victors over the season.
Quote from: onefaircounty on March 18, 2013, 05:35:30 PM
Thought it was more bad decision making than tactics. One of Bessbrook's key qualities this year has been the lack of panic and slow moving of the ball out of defence. Today so many defenders hoofed the ball in the first 20 minutes, O'Doherty couldn't believe his luck. Think this was maybe the occasion getting to some.
No issues with result. Maghera physically stronger. Two minutes at the end was a joke, but referee gave St Paul's plenty of help in the second half.
Quote from: elk on March 18, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.
Quote from: Throw ball on March 18, 2013, 07:36:05 PMQuote from: elk on March 18, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.
Maybe he was cheesed off with the amount of time he and Bessbrook had to stand in the cold before Maghera decided they wanted to play the second half. ;D
Quote from: elk on March 18, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.
Quote from: ranch on March 18, 2013, 07:45:59 PMQuote from: elk on March 18, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.
Other than the last free where O'Hanlon could have been adjudged to be charging I can't remember any decision he gave St. Paul's which stands out as bad?
It's not as if Maghera weren't given frees in the 2nd half either.
Quote from: sbw on March 18, 2013, 08:24:32 PM
Watch it again :D
Quote from: hardstation on March 18, 2013, 09:06:21 PMQuote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2013, 08:44:24 PMAgree with that. They were beaten by the minimum in a game that could have gone either way. They missed some very kickable frees and conceded a goal that wouldn't have gone in 99 out of 100 times. Two very evenly matched teams, St. Pauls were just unlucky.
St Pauls will be gutted, havent saw stats but i'd imagine Pauls dominated possession? I wouldn't blame tactics for the defeat either, how many frees were missed, wrong on-field options taken? More than enough chances to win. Just came out the wrong end of a tight one.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2013, 08:44:24 PM
St Pauls will be gutted, havent saw stats but i'd imagine Pauls dominated possession? I wouldn't blame tactics for the defeat either, how many frees were missed, wrong on-field options taken? More than enough chances to win. Just came out the wrong end of a tight one.
Quote from: ranch on March 19, 2013, 12:01:43 AM
On the other hand, young Glass from Maghera has another 3 years at MacRory level. Great future ahead of him.
Quote from: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 11:01:29 AM
A big congratulations to St Pats, thought they were the best team, and whilst the game went down to the wire and you couldn't ignore St Pauls guts, it was St Pats greater quality that eventually bore the result. Also congratualtions to Sean Marty Lockhart and Martin Mc Connell on stepping from underneath a great but ledendry shadow of Big Adrian, the first MacRory to be taken to the school without Adrians influence. But it must be said, that this final like last year was nearly lost as a result of negative tactics and and not allowing players to express themselves to the full. When Maghera were on top in the 1st half it was very obvious how much better they were to St Pauls, but instead of pushing up and taking full advantage of their superiority they stay rigid to their policy of trying to stifle the oppostion, it was this tactic that invited St Pauls unto them in the last 10 mins and without doubt could have resulted in a replay, the same tactic resulted in St Pats loosing the final last year, and it seems nothing has been learned. There is nothing wrong with playing sweepers etc, but when you attack you have to have players supporting the play in numbers to make the tactic an effective counter attack, and this is where St Pats struggle, but on the other side of the arguement the end justifies the means. On the postive side there were many players on the St Pats team yesterday who have won every competion they have entered from 1st year, the O Farrell , the Dalton, the Corn Na Og, the Brock, the Rannafast and now the MacRory, quite incredible, and I wonder has this ever happened before with an age group, at any other college, at this level. Onwards and upwards to the Hogan.
BTW it would make sense that Glen should have the biggest representation on the team, the school serves its primary schools.
Quote from: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 11:17:46 AM
Your entitled to your view sur, but Maghera dominated the 1st half and were the better team and to me as a St Pats man I felt we were in a position to drive on, but as I said we sat back. Our sitting back eventually invited St Pauls unto us as they went four down and with the guts they had they were going to give all they had if allowed to come to us. I did say on the other side of the argument that the end justifies the means. A sweeper who is good at his job should be in a position to compete for MOTM, as he has nobody to mark, just read the game.
Quote from: FiFtH mAn TaCkLe on March 19, 2013, 01:55:42 PM
good job maghera won yesterday.
would have been a huge embarrassment if a high school won the mccrory cup.
Quote from: yellowcard on March 19, 2013, 11:08:19 AMQuote from: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 11:01:29 AM
A big congratulations to St Pats, thought they were the best team, and whilst the game went down to the wire and you couldn't ignore St Pauls guts, it was St Pats greater quality that eventually bore the result. Also congratualtions to Sean Marty Lockhart and Martin Mc Connell on stepping from underneath a great but ledendry shadow of Big Adrian, the first MacRory to be taken to the school without Adrians influence. But it must be said, that this final like last year was nearly lost as a result of negative tactics and and not allowing players to express themselves to the full. When Maghera were on top in the 1st half it was very obvious how much better they were to St Pauls, but instead of pushing up and taking full advantage of their superiority they stay rigid to their policy of trying to stifle the oppostion, it was this tactic that invited St Pauls unto them in the last 10 mins and without doubt could have resulted in a replay, the same tactic resulted in St Pats loosing the final last year, and it seems nothing has been learned. There is nothing wrong with playing sweepers etc, but when you attack you have to have players supporting the play in numbers to make the tactic an effective counter attack, and this is where St Pats struggle, but on the other side of the arguement the end justifies the means. On the postive side there were many players on the St Pats team yesterday who have won every competion they have entered from 1st year, the O Farrell , the Dalton, the Corn Na Og, the Brock, the Rannafast and now the MacRory, quite incredible, and I wonder has this ever happened before with an age group, at any other college, at this level. Onwards and upwards to the Hogan.
BTW it would make sense that Glen should have the biggest representation on the team, the school serves its primary schools.
Its funny how people see things differently, I don't think Maghera were 'obviously much better' than St Pauls. If the result had gone the other way I don't think anyone could have argued. Ultimately the soft first goal was the winning of the game for Maghera. They were physically much stronger than Bessbrook but the teams were very evenly matched. That was borne out by the fact that in the 2 matches they played this season there was the minimum score in both games. Also the sweeper that Maghera employed got MOTM so I don't think you could argue that it wasn't a success. In fact I would say that Maghera got their tactics spot on.
Quote from: FiFtH mAn TaCkLe on March 19, 2013, 01:55:42 PM
good job maghera won yesterday.
would have been a huge embarrassment if a high school won the mccrory cup.
Quote from: naka on March 19, 2013, 04:02:57 PM
Thought the magherA number 6 was excellent , super player I wish him well,
Wanted St. Paul's to win but felt that st pats just about deserved it.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 19, 2013, 05:25:26 PM
As you wish!
St Patrick's Maghera - Mc Cloy (Glen), Glass (Glen), Hughes (Lavey), Hegarty (Glen), Mulholland (Glen), Carville (1-00) (Glen), Gallagher (Glen), Kearney (Swatragh), Cassidy (0-01) (Bellaghy), O'Doherty (Slaughtneil), Bradley (0-02) (Slaughtneil), Mc Faul (Bellaghy), Cassidy (Slaughtneil), O'Hara (1-01) (Glen), Tallon (Glen). Subs: Hagan (Banagher), Convery (0-01) (Glen), Mc Atamney (Swatragh).
Btw Ryan Dougan is overage Tickle!
Quote from: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 11:01:29 AMYou'll notice the McCormick Cup is missing from that and regardless of what your views might be fact is St Paul's beat them that night and had yesterday's match lasted a few minutes more they could have won that too 7 scores to 10 would indicate that Pats were not as dominant as you suggest but such is life. Fair play to St Paul's lads they did their school clubs and community proud
A big congratulations to St Pats, thought they were the best team, and whilst the game went down to the wire and you couldn't ignore St Pauls guts, it was St Pats greater quality that eventually bore the result. Also congratualtions to Sean Marty Lockhart and Martin Mc Connell on stepping from underneath a great but ledendry shadow of Big Adrian, the first MacRory to be taken to the school without Adrians influence. But it must be said, that this final like last year was nearly lost as a result of negative tactics and and not allowing players to express themselves to the full. When Maghera were on top in the 1st half it was very obvious how much better they were to St Pauls, but instead of pushing up and taking full advantage of their superiority they stay rigid to their policy of trying to stifle the oppostion, it was this tactic that invited St Pauls unto them in the last 10 mins and without doubt could have resulted in a replay, the same tactic resulted in St Pats loosing the final last year, and it seems nothing has been learned. There is nothing wrong with playing sweepers etc, but when you attack you have to have players supporting the play in numbers to make the tactic an effective counter attack, and this is where St Pats struggle, but on the other side of the arguement the end justifies the means. On the postive side there were many players on the St Pats team yesterday who have won every competion they have entered from 1st year, the O Farrell , the Dalton, the Corn Na Og, the Brock, the Rannafast and now the MacRory, quite incredible, and I wonder has this ever happened before with an age group, at any other college, at this level. Onwards and upwards to the Hogan.
BTW it would make sense that Glen should have the biggest representation on the team, the school serves its primary schools.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 19, 2013, 06:55:47 PMQuote from: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 11:01:29 AMYou'll notice the McCormick Cup is missing from that and regardless of what your views might be fact is St Paul's beat them that night and had yesterday's match lasted a few minutes more they could have won that too 7 scores to 10 would indicate that Pats were not as dominant as you suggest but such is life. Fair play to St Paul's lads they did their school clubs and community proud
A big congratulations to St Pats, thought they were the best team, and whilst the game went down to the wire and you couldn't ignore St Pauls guts, it was St Pats greater quality that eventually bore the result. Also congratualtions to Sean Marty Lockhart and Martin Mc Connell on stepping from underneath a great but ledendry shadow of Big Adrian, the first MacRory to be taken to the school without Adrians influence. But it must be said, that this final like last year was nearly lost as a result of negative tactics and and not allowing players to express themselves to the full. When Maghera were on top in the 1st half it was very obvious how much better they were to St Pauls, but instead of pushing up and taking full advantage of their superiority they stay rigid to their policy of trying to stifle the oppostion, it was this tactic that invited St Pauls unto them in the last 10 mins and without doubt could have resulted in a replay, the same tactic resulted in St Pats loosing the final last year, and it seems nothing has been learned. There is nothing wrong with playing sweepers etc, but when you attack you have to have players supporting the play in numbers to make the tactic an effective counter attack, and this is where St Pats struggle, but on the other side of the arguement the end justifies the means. On the postive side there were many players on the St Pats team yesterday who have won every competion they have entered from 1st year, the O Farrell , the Dalton, the Corn Na Og, the Brock, the Rannafast and now the MacRory, quite incredible, and I wonder has this ever happened before with an age group, at any other college, at this level. Onwards and upwards to the Hogan.
BTW it would make sense that Glen should have the biggest representation on the team, the school serves its primary schools.
Quote from: ranch on March 21, 2013, 01:56:34 AMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 19, 2013, 07:26:22 PM
No one gives a monkeys about the Mc Cormick and never will.
Although the McCormick cup is obviously not on the same level as the MacRory, the fact remains that if St. Pat's had won it then a lot of people would be keen to add it to their list of achievements since 1st year. None of the boys who played in the final before Christmas did so with the intention of losing. St. Paul's deserve credit for winning it. That said, they'd obviously swap it for the MacRory.
Also, I can't remember who posted it but I honestly don't think the final was as one sided as some on here are suggesting. The more clinical side won and were deserving of their success. Had St. Paul's managed to convert one of their goal chances though and went on to win no one could have begrudged them the title either.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 21, 2013, 07:43:43 AM
Gracious in victory. You're a credit to yourself
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 21, 2013, 08:32:44 AM
Going into the final, Bessbrook were the only unbeaten team left
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2013, 11:07:12 AM
11 Glen lads on the panel, 8 started the final. Should have been 12, but the Maghera management didnt see a place for last years Derry U17 captain! ::)
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 19, 2013, 07:26:22 PM
Jeez will you ever give over. Your like an aul women harping on there!
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2013, 07:38:00 AM
I already gave credit to Bessbrook. Fair played to them and I wish them all the best in the next coming years but if Maghera had been beat I wouldn't be going on and on about it. The fact remains the Mc Cormick cup is a nothing competition and will remain that way. Leagues are for playing in, championships are for winning!
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 21, 2013, 07:32:23 PM
Well the McCormack cup winners, nobody really looks at, but people can remember previous Macrory cup finals, maybe cause it on Tv. the thing that bother me about school football is the way they pick the colleges all stars, which should be picked on form through the Macrory and not over a few weekends where players pair up with unfamiliar team members to play games to get recognized as a all star
Quote from: ranch on March 21, 2013, 07:35:42 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on March 21, 2013, 07:32:23 PM
Well the McCormack cup winners, nobody really looks at, but people can remember previous Macrory cup finals, maybe cause it on Tv. the thing that bother me about school football is the way they pick the colleges all stars, which should be picked on form through the Macrory and not over a few weekends where players pair up with unfamiliar team members to play games to get recognized as a all star
Yeah the All Star system really is a joke. It seems that it's in place to have a good spread of players from different schools etc.
Quote from: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Just a few points. I missed the Macrory final due to work and only managed to watch it back this eveing there. Maghera were the better team and had a gameplan which bessbrook couldn't match. Having read the thread, I don't know how people can't blame the tactics of Bessbrook as they continually 'gave' the ball to the Maghera sweeper allowing him and Carville to come on to them continually. Madness!!!
The referee couldn't have done much more to keep St Pauls in it - maybe he fell for the 'poor us' card that Bessbrook have been playing all year. They did come back strong in the end and could have snuck it with a few late chance but wouldn't have deserved it.
As for winning the Mac Cormick cup. Fair play Bessbrook but nobody gives a toss about this meaningless competition. Qualifying is all that matters out of the groups and not winning this. How many Macrory winners have also won this over the last few years?
Just wondering if Bessbrook in the Macrory or slip back off to the MacLarnon again. They have had a good first year but will need their VP doing his work to bring more lads into the school tostudydoA LevelsBtecs. I, for one, am sick, sore and tired hearing about the wonderful kids in St Pauls (and I am not getting at the actual kids here as they are just pawns in all this). They are no different from the kids in any other school who strive to do their best in all that they do inside and outside the classroom but to hear/read individuals from St Pauls spout their dung you would think there is no other school who are like them or do what they do. Catch a grip. Maghera are a similar type of school and I never heard them mention this once. I'm glad they won.
Quote from: Orchardman on March 22, 2013, 08:30:38 PMQuote from: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Just a few points. I missed the Macrory final due to work and only managed to watch it back this eveing there. Maghera were the better team and had a gameplan which bessbrook couldn't match. Having read the thread, I don't know how people can't blame the tactics of Bessbrook as they continually 'gave' the ball to the Maghera sweeper allowing him and Carville to come on to them continually. Madness!!!
The referee couldn't have done much more to keep St Pauls in it - maybe he fell for the 'poor us' card that Bessbrook have been playing all year. They did come back strong in the end and could have snuck it with a few late chance but wouldn't have deserved it.
As for winning the Mac Cormick cup. Fair play Bessbrook but nobody gives a toss about this meaningless competition. Qualifying is all that matters out of the groups and not winning this. How many Macrory winners have also won this over the last few years?
Just wondering if Bessbrook in the Macrory or slip back off to the MacLarnon again. They have had a good first year but will need their VP doing his work to bring more lads into the school tostudydoA LevelsBtecs. I, for one, am sick, sore and tired hearing about the wonderful kids in St Pauls (and I am not getting at the actual kids here as they are just pawns in all this). They are no different from the kids in any other school who strive to do their best in all that they do inside and outside the classroom but to hear/read individuals from St Pauls spout their dung you would think there is no other school who are like them or do what they do. Catch a grip. Maghera are a similar type of school and I never heard them mention this once. I'm glad they won.
Think your making a bit of a meal out of nothing.
Firstly, though I am a supporter of St Pauls having had family that attended the school, I did say myself that rafferty had overplayed the card ' oh, our students are great, its not about the team, its about 1500 great kids, blah'. I said that because it became a bit tiresome after every interview this year.
However, I know for a fact it is a fantastic school, and wont listen to clowns making sneaky digs about 'BTECS'. The difference is St Pauls are surrounded by 2 excellent boys grammar schools and 2 excellent girls grammar schools, all a few miles away in Newry. Maghera near rivals would only be Marys in magherafelt, another top school. I don't only see one side, as I believe in both grammar and comp schools, but St Paul's do a fantastic job and it's great they have finally got their act together over the last 5 years in terms of their GAA potential.
Shouldn't even be mentioned about dropping out of McCrory, why would they? They stuffed most teams they played, and only lost final by a point. Sure they will lose top players but sure that happens every year in every school. A team should only be dropping out when it becomes obvious they cant compete
Quote from: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 09:01:13 PMQuote from: Orchardman on March 22, 2013, 08:30:38 PMQuote from: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Just a few points. I missed the Macrory final due to work and only managed to watch it back this eveing there. Maghera were the better team and had a gameplan which bessbrook couldn't match. Having read the thread, I don't know how people can't blame the tactics of Bessbrook as they continually 'gave' the ball to the Maghera sweeper allowing him and Carville to come on to them continually. Madness!!!
The referee couldn't have done much more to keep St Pauls in it - maybe he fell for the 'poor us' card that Bessbrook have been playing all year. They did come back strong in the end and could have snuck it with a few late chance but wouldn't have deserved it.
As for winning the Mac Cormick cup. Fair play Bessbrook but nobody gives a toss about this meaningless competition. Qualifying is all that matters out of the groups and not winning this. How many Macrory winners have also won this over the last few years?
Just wondering if Bessbrook in the Macrory or slip back off to the MacLarnon again. They have had a good first year but will need their VP doing his work to bring more lads into the school tostudydoA LevelsBtecs. I, for one, am sick, sore and tired hearing about the wonderful kids in St Pauls (and I am not getting at the actual kids here as they are just pawns in all this). They are no different from the kids in any other school who strive to do their best in all that they do inside and outside the classroom but to hear/read individuals from St Pauls spout their dung you would think there is no other school who are like them or do what they do. Catch a grip. Maghera are a similar type of school and I never heard them mention this once. I'm glad they won.
Think your making a bit of a meal out of nothing.
Firstly, though I am a supporter of St Pauls having had family that attended the school, I did say myself that rafferty had overplayed the card ' oh, our students are great, its not about the team, its about 1500 great kids, blah'. I said that because it became a bit tiresome after every interview this year.
However, I know for a fact it is a fantastic school, and wont listen to clowns making sneaky digs about 'BTECS'. The difference is St Pauls are surrounded by 2 excellent boys grammar schools and 2 excellent girls grammar schools, all a few miles away in Newry. Maghera near rivals would only be Marys in magherafelt, another top school. I don't only see one side, as I believe in both grammar and comp schools, but St Paul's do a fantastic job and it's great they have finally got their act together over the last 5 years in terms of their GAA potential.
Shouldn't even be mentioned about dropping out of McCrory, why would they? They stuffed most teams they played, and only lost final by a point. Sure they will lose top players but sure that happens every year in every school. A team should only be dropping out when it becomes obvious they cant compete
Fair enough point - I shouldn't have mentioned the Btec thing but its just that I know that there are so many lads who go to St Pauls because they can do a Btec in PE which is worth 3 A Levels and I don't believe there is any exam to do either - I'm not quite sure how this works.
St Pauls do a great job for the Gaa in South Armagh but if a lad from Newry, Ballyholland, Saval, Mayobridge, Hilltown, Rostrevor etc wants to go there he cant. They only let kids from South Armagh go there. There would be an outcry if any of the four Grammar schools in Newry decided that they would only take kids from South Down. Surely they can't be allowed to take only kids from Armagh? Is it any wonder that we keep hearing about this Armagh thing.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2013, 09:33:16 PM
Thats the way the Education system is supposed to work now that the Catholic Church has deemed Grammars obselete & all schools are to go down the non-selective route, you go to the school nearest you. Wether that'll ever happen is another question entirely. St Pat's Grammar in Armagh is to go all-ability from September & it's hoped that they will act as a catalyst to spur other schools to follow.
Have to say this is the most childish thread i've read in a long time, full of nonsense.
Quote from: Orchardman on March 22, 2013, 10:15:16 PMQuote from: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 09:01:13 PMQuote from: Orchardman on March 22, 2013, 08:30:38 PMQuote from: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Just a few points. I missed the Macrory final due to work and only managed to watch it back this eveing there. Maghera were the better team and had a gameplan which bessbrook couldn't match. Having read the thread, I don't know how people can't blame the tactics of Bessbrook as they continually 'gave' the ball to the Maghera sweeper allowing him and Carville to come on to them continually. Madness!!!
The referee couldn't have done much more to keep St Pauls in it - maybe he fell for the 'poor us' card that Bessbrook have been playing all year. They did come back strong in the end and could have snuck it with a few late chance but wouldn't have deserved it.
As for winning the Mac Cormick cup. Fair play Bessbrook but nobody gives a toss about this meaningless competition. Qualifying is all that matters out of the groups and not winning this. How many Macrory winners have also won this over the last few years?
Just wondering if Bessbrook in the Macrory or slip back off to the MacLarnon again. They have had a good first year but will need their VP doing his work to bring more lads into the school tostudydoA LevelsBtecs. I, for one, am sick, sore and tired hearing about the wonderful kids in St Pauls (and I am not getting at the actual kids here as they are just pawns in all this). They are no different from the kids in any other school who strive to do their best in all that they do inside and outside the classroom but to hear/read individuals from St Pauls spout their dung you would think there is no other school who are like them or do what they do. Catch a grip. Maghera are a similar type of school and I never heard them mention this once. I'm glad they won.
Think your making a bit of a meal out of nothing.
Firstly, though I am a supporter of St Pauls having had family that attended the school, I did say myself that rafferty had overplayed the card ' oh, our students are great, its not about the team, its about 1500 great kids, blah'. I said that because it became a bit tiresome after every interview this year.
However, I know for a fact it is a fantastic school, and wont listen to clowns making sneaky digs about 'BTECS'. The difference is St Pauls are surrounded by 2 excellent boys grammar schools and 2 excellent girls grammar schools, all a few miles away in Newry. Maghera near rivals would only be Marys in magherafelt, another top school. I don't only see one side, as I believe in both grammar and comp schools, but St Paul's do a fantastic job and it's great they have finally got their act together over the last 5 years in terms of their GAA potential.
Shouldn't even be mentioned about dropping out of McCrory, why would they? They stuffed most teams they played, and only lost final by a point. Sure they will lose top players but sure that happens every year in every school. A team should only be dropping out when it becomes obvious they cant compete
Fair enough point - I shouldn't have mentioned the Btec thing but its just that I know that there are so many lads who go to St Pauls because they can do a Btec in PE which is worth 3 A Levels and I don't believe there is any exam to do either - I'm not quite sure how this works.
St Pauls do a great job for the Gaa in South Armagh but if a lad from Newry, Ballyholland, Saval, Mayobridge, Hilltown, Rostrevor etc wants to go there he cant. They only let kids from South Armagh go there. There would be an outcry if any of the four Grammar schools in Newry decided that they would only take kids from South Down. Surely they can't be allowed to take only kids from Armagh? Is it any wonder that we keep hearing about this Armagh thing.
For sure BTEC's are deemed easier in many ways. They don't have the stressful exams at the end but they contain a steady amount of constant coursework.
But for the selection of south down kids, it's nothing to do with St Paul's, they have to have a catchment area which are most a lot of the south armagh feeder primary schools. Thats how it works, warrenpoint on the other side of newry then caters for south down.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2013, 10:42:14 PM
Bessbrook presumably are adhering to policy - in answer to you asking why people from outside the area dont / cant go there, so they are not being 'selective' they are following Governmental & Catholic Church policy - policies that are being ignored by most Grammars. Hopefully it will be the future, but then why would the big Grammar schools sit there & watch their powerbases being taken from them.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2013, 09:33:16 PMNo idea. Boundaries? I would presume that kids from Culloville, Crossmaglen, Mullaghbawn should be going to St, Josephs Crossmaglen. You are the Armagh man and I presume you know more than me.
Thats the way the Education system is supposed to work now that the Catholic Church has deemed Grammars obselete & all schools are to go down the non-selective route, you go to the school nearest you. Wether that'll ever happen is another question entirely. St Pat's Grammar in Armagh is to go all-ability from September & it's hoped that they will act as a catalyst to spur other schools to follow.
Have to say this is the most childish thread i've read in a long time, full of nonsense.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
All those areas bar Cullaville are as handy to St Pauls as to Cross & if within the same 'boundary' you're free to choose, just like a Newry nuck could choose between Abbey, Colmans or St Marys if they all adopted the all-ability ethos. There's a list of criteria on the DE website if you're interested.
Quote from: AFS on March 23, 2013, 12:54:21 AMI'd say that encapsulates the reasons that Comrade Boots & the boys hope to level the playing field & that kids are sent to their closest school (amongst equally resourced all-ability schools, where Grammars no longer exist). It'll never happen.Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
All those areas bar Cullaville are as handy to St Pauls as to Cross & if within the same 'boundary' you're free to choose, just like a Newry nuck could choose between Abbey, Colmans or St Marys if they all adopted the all-ability ethos. There's a list of criteria on the DE website if you're interested.
It would certainly be interesting if a young fella passed over the Abbey or the College in favour of St. Mary's.
Quote from: Line Ball on March 23, 2013, 01:00:34 AMQuote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
All those areas bar Cullaville are as handy to St Pauls as to Cross & if within the same 'boundary' you're free to choose, just like a Newry nuck could choose between Abbey, Colmans or St Marys if they all adopted the all-ability ethos. There's a list of criteria on the DE website if you're interested.
So kids from Crosssmaglen can 'select' to go to Bessbrook. According to you they cant.
Now listen Benny, are you seriously telling me that Silverbridge and maybe Mullaghbawn are closer to Crossmaglen than Bessbrook. Check your sat nav - I will be!
Quote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2013, 09:33:16 PMWould I be right in thinking that less kids from Keady transfer to Armagh since Keady got its new school. If this is the case is it fair to assume that falling enrolment would also have been a factor in St Pats decision? By the way I agree that there's a lot of uninformed nonsense being posted on this thread
Thats the way the Education system is supposed to work now that the Catholic Church has deemed Grammars obselete & all schools are to go down the non-selective route, you go to the school nearest you. Wether that'll ever happen is another question entirely. St Pat's Grammar in Armagh is to go all-ability from September & it's hoped that they will act as a catalyst to spur other schools to follow.
Have to say this is the most childish thread i've read in a long time, full of nonsense.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 10:46:17 AMQuote from: AFS on March 23, 2013, 12:54:21 AMI'd say that encapsulates the reasons that Comrade Boots & the boys hope to level the playing field & that kids are sent to their closest school (amongst equally resourced all-ability schools, where Grammars no longer exist). It'll never happen.Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
All those areas bar Cullaville are as handy to St Pauls as to Cross & if within the same 'boundary' you're free to choose, just like a Newry nuck could choose between Abbey, Colmans or St Marys if they all adopted the all-ability ethos. There's a list of criteria on the DE website if you're interested.
It would certainly be interesting if a young fella passed over the Abbey or the College in favour of St. Mary's.
Quote from: ranch on March 23, 2013, 04:51:34 PMMy bad. St Josephs & St Marys days as separate entities are probably numbered too.Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 10:46:17 AMQuote from: AFS on March 23, 2013, 12:54:21 AMI'd say that encapsulates the reasons that Comrade Boots & the boys hope to level the playing field & that kids are sent to their closest school (amongst equally resourced all-ability schools, where Grammars no longer exist). It'll never happen.Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
All those areas bar Cullaville are as handy to St Pauls as to Cross & if within the same 'boundary' you're free to choose, just like a Newry nuck could choose between Abbey, Colmans or St Marys if they all adopted the all-ability ethos. There's a list of criteria on the DE website if you're interested.
It would certainly be interesting if a young fella passed over the Abbey or the College in favour of St. Mary's.
I think he was being sarcastic Benny as St. Mary's is an all girls school. The male equivalent in Newry would be St. Joseph's.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 06:30:32 PM
My bad. St Josephs & St Marys days as separate entities are probably numbered too.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 23, 2013, 06:45:40 PMQuote from: ranch on March 23, 2013, 06:38:10 PMSplit site Years 8-10 in one and Years 11-14 in another?Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 06:30:32 PM
My bad. St Josephs & St Marys days as separate entities are probably numbered too.
Ideally they would be the one school, but I can't see any change in the near future as there's not really any real need for it.
St. Joe's caters for around 400 11-16 year old pupils whilst I'd guess St. Mary's has similar if not higher numbers and also offers A levels. If both were to amalgamate then a new site would be needed for a start as both are at opposite ends of Newry.
Quote from: AFS on March 30, 2013, 05:06:09 PM
St. Michael's well beat by St. Attracta's in the B semi final. 3-10 to 0-7.
Quote from: theticklemister on March 30, 2013, 05:04:49 PM
A new competition the Eamon Coleman cup will take place at late April consisting of the Markey and McRory winners, tis organised by UUJ
Quote from: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 05:28:14 PM
Video - see a cracking goal by Conor Glass in today's Masita All Ireland Colleges Semi for St Patrick's Maghera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Auy7kBRlg&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Auy7kBRlg&feature=youtu.be)
Quote from: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
See another brilliant Maghera goal here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be)
Quote from: orangeman on March 30, 2013, 05:50:31 PMQuote from: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
See another brilliant Maghera goal here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be)
Some goal.
Quote from: theticklemister on March 30, 2013, 05:53:31 PMQuote from: orangeman on March 30, 2013, 05:50:31 PMQuote from: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
See another brilliant Maghera goal here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be)
Some goal.
Class.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 30, 2013, 05:54:36 PMQuote from: theticklemister on March 30, 2013, 05:53:31 PMQuote from: orangeman on March 30, 2013, 05:50:31 PMNot one of yours but is he not?? Is he from up the hill?Quote from: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
See another brilliant Maghera goal here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be)
Some goal.
Class.
Aye he's not a bad player :D
Quote from: Jinxy on March 30, 2013, 05:56:36 PM
The Navan lads will have his card marked.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 30, 2013, 06:12:50 PMColleges A and the Vocational final are usually a double header. The B final won by St Paul's last year was played in Cavan before the AI Club final replay.
Any word on the final date? So is the Colleges A and B final along with the U18 Vocational Final all played on the same day??
Quote from: ranch on March 30, 2013, 06:27:44 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 30, 2013, 06:12:50 PMColleges A and the Vocational final are usually a double header. The B final won by St Paul's last year was played in Cavan before the AI Club final replay.
Any word on the final date? So is the Colleges A and B final along with the U18 Vocational Final all played on the same day??
I'd imagine the final is in 2 weeks time though I haven't heard for definite.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 31, 2013, 10:15:25 PMQuote from: Rawhide on March 31, 2013, 09:01:44 PMIn my experience I would agree that the better MacRory Cup teams (at least) would be better than those at the top of the Markey Cup. Teams in the latter don't normally have the time or resources to engage in a regime that MacRory Cup teams usually can and there is less emphasis on physical strength & conditioning with more on skill & drills. However I would regard the Markey Cup as a slightly better standard than the McLaron Cup. The better old VS Intercounty teams (there's still an Ulster provincial competition) however would certainly match those in the MacRory Cup.
UUJ have lunched the Eamon Coleman trophy where the MacRory winners play the Vocational winners each year. Having watched both games yesterday St Pats would walk away with it, thought their was a big difference in physical size and quality
Quote from: Rawhide on March 31, 2013, 10:30:41 PM
Although there is always one exception to every rule, I thought that he Holy Trinity Team last year was exceptional, would have held its own on the MacRory. Devlin and McNulty at midfield, Mullan and Cassidy in defense, Mc Geary and Mc Gahan up front
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 31, 2013, 07:42:36 PM
Unlike in Co. Armagh, the VS GAA sector in Tyrone has been fairly well run (if you excuse the screw up in venues for this year's county U14 & U16 finals), and is of a good competitive standard in general. The likes of HTC or St. Ciaran's Ballygawley would perhaps find little benefit to switch bodies, especially as Holy Cross Strabane and SWC Omagh have not really done much since they switched themselves.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
I presume that's correct as he won 2 with forest, and had played for the derry minors, i take it Maghera won the cup on a year he was there
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 01, 2013, 09:21:18 PMI think he did HoofQuote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
I presume that's correct as he won 2 with forest, and had played for the derry minors, i take it Maghera won the cup on a year he was there
did he not do to st.Columbs in Derry ?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 13, 2013, 04:58:06 PM
How many Maghera players will be on the Derry minor team this summer?
QuoteI see St. Ciaran's Ballygawley
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on July 16, 2013, 07:04:48 PM
I see St. Ciaran's Ballygawley and the Holy Trinity Cookstown have opted to enter the Colleges competitions from this September. St. Ciaran's will take part in the MacRory Cup while HTC will enter the MacLaron.
Edit: Also the winners of the MacLaron and Markey Cups in 2014 will play-off against each other with the winner representing Ulster in the All-Ireland Senior Colleges "B" competition.
Quote from: The Worker on October 15, 2013, 12:14:31 PM
Ballygawley beat Lurgan 4-12 to 3-11, high scoring affair.
Quote from: Itchy on October 15, 2013, 11:05:49 PM
Enniskillen v Cavan was abandoned due to power failure! Cavan were two points up, think there was around 20mins played. What happens now, start game again from scratch?
Quote from: johnneycool on October 16, 2013, 03:20:17 PMQuote from: Itchy on October 15, 2013, 11:05:49 PM
Enniskillen v Cavan was abandoned due to power failure! Cavan were two points up, think there was around 20mins played. What happens now, start game again from scratch?
I heard a Malaysian betting syndicate was behind it, big money laid in the far east for the game not finishing.
Quote from: Orior on October 17, 2013, 12:07:39 AMQuote from: johnneycool on October 16, 2013, 03:20:17 PMQuote from: Itchy on October 15, 2013, 11:05:49 PM
Enniskillen v Cavan was abandoned due to power failure! Cavan were two points up, think there was around 20mins played. What happens now, start game again from scratch?
I heard a Malaysian betting syndicate was behind it, big money laid in the far east for the game not finishing.
In Ardglass?
Quote from: superbad on October 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?
Quote from: superbad on October 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?
Quote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 07:34:40 PMQuote from: superbad on October 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?
I'd say that since the likes of Ray Morgan and Adrian Mc Guckian have retired that the new breed of teachers just aren't prepared to give their time on a Saturday the way it used to be. Years ago all football was played on a Saturday but now apart from MacRory all other football is played during the week according to the fixtures and results on the Ulster Colleges twitter and facebook. There are also new schools coming into the colleges who probably dont want to play on a Saturday either.
Do the teachers get paid for taking teams on a Saturday?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 08:58:38 PMQuote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 07:34:40 PMQuote from: superbad on October 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?
I'd say that since the likes of Ray Morgan and Adrian Mc Guckian have retired that the new breed of teachers just aren't prepared to give their time on a Saturday the way it used to be. Years ago all football was played on a Saturday but now apart from MacRory all other football is played during the week according to the fixtures and results on the Ulster Colleges twitter and facebook. There are also new schools coming into the colleges who probably dont want to play on a Saturday either.
Do the teachers get paid for taking teams on a Saturday?
They get extra money for taking the teams (a point) having them during the week is difficult to get referees to do the games
Quote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 09:51:43 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 08:58:38 PMQuote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 07:34:40 PMQuote from: superbad on October 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?
I'd say that since the likes of Ray Morgan and Adrian Mc Guckian have retired that the new breed of teachers just aren't prepared to give their time on a Saturday the way it used to be. Years ago all football was played on a Saturday but now apart from MacRory all other football is played during the week according to the fixtures and results on the Ulster Colleges twitter and facebook. There are also new schools coming into the colleges who probably dont want to play on a Saturday either.
Do the teachers get paid for taking teams on a Saturday?
They get extra money for taking the teams (a point) having them during the week is difficult to get referees to do the games
I never knew that. Is it any wonder that they want to play games on a Saturday if they are getting a few pound for it. How much money do they get and is this the norm across all schools in the North? People give out so much about paying men to coach club teams and the same is going on in schools. I can't believe all schools do this.
Quote from: superbad on October 18, 2013, 10:00:46 PM
I know for a fact that teachers in the Abbey and colmans do not get paid for taking teams. Its part of the job. I doubt if any schools pay this. How could they differentiate between people who take football, camogie, choirs etc. The list is endless
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 09:55:56 PMQuote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 09:51:43 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 08:58:38 PMQuote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 07:34:40 PMQuote from: superbad on October 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?
I'd say that since the likes of Ray Morgan and Adrian Mc Guckian have retired that the new breed of teachers just aren't prepared to give their time on a Saturday the way it used to be. Years ago all football was played on a Saturday but now apart from MacRory all other football is played during the week according to the fixtures and results on the Ulster Colleges twitter and facebook. There are also new schools coming into the colleges who probably dont want to play on a Saturday either.
Do the teachers get paid for taking teams on a Saturday?
They get extra money for taking the teams (a point) having them during the week is difficult to get referees to do the games
I never knew that. Is it any wonder that they want to play games on a Saturday if they are getting a few pound for it. How much money do they get and is this the norm across all schools in the North? People give out so much about paying men to coach club teams and the same is going on in schools. I can't believe all schools do this.
Most schools give a 'point' to teachers who take extra curricular activities outside school hours, the sum depends on their rate of pay, other teachers on here could give you the exact payment I'd say. Is it around £1800?
If I taught at a secondary school I'd love to do it, and if it meant you could do it during the working week I'd be all over it
Quote from: superbad on October 18, 2013, 10:00:46 PM
I know for a fact that teachers in the Abbey and colmans do not get paid for taking teams. Its part of the job. I doubt if any schools pay this. How could they differentiate between people who take football, camogie, choirs etc. The list is endless
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:29:41 PM
Leeches.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 10:36:08 PMQuote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:29:41 PM
Leeches.
Tell them they get money for it as a extra curricular activity ffs. It's no big deal and a lot cheaper than bringing in a coach
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:39:48 PM
Would she not do it if she wasn't getting half a point?
Quote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 10:47:24 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 10:36:08 PMQuote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:29:41 PM
Leeches.
Tell them they get money for it as a extra curricular activity ffs. It's no big deal and a lot cheaper than bringing in a coach
£1800 is alot of coaching for any team, never mind a school team. And if you have 4 or 5 football teams, hurling teams, camogie and then many other sports that is some amount of money a school has to pay out. if people were doubling up with hurling and football they would be on a nice wee earner.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:08:43 PMQuote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:39:48 PM
Would she not do it if she wasn't getting half a point?
She did it cause she was asked, the point was a bonus. She hasn't taken the team in years now, as it wasn't worth (not monetary terms) the hassle, anyone taking the teams in schools deserves the point should they get one. You normally get extra money in any job for doing extra work, as far as I'm aware
Quote from: Minder on October 18, 2013, 11:15:38 PM
My mate teaches and takes hurling teams and doesent get any extra points.
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 11:17:02 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:08:43 PMQuote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:39:48 PM
Would she not do it if she wasn't getting half a point?
She did it cause she was asked, the point was a bonus. She hasn't taken the team in years now, as it wasn't worth (not monetary terms) the hassle, anyone taking the teams in schools deserves the point should they get one. You normally get extra money in any job for doing extra work, as far as I'm aware
I'd have turned the point (or half) down and told them to spend the money on books.
Quote from: The Worker on October 15, 2013, 12:14:31 PMWhen did St Ciarans move up?
Ballygawley beat Lurgan 4-12 to 3-11, high scoring affair.
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 11:31:17 PM
No.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:08:43 PMQuote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:39:48 PM
Would she not do it if she wasn't getting half a point?
She did it cause she was asked, the point was a bonus. She hasn't taken the team in years now, as it wasn't worth (not monetary terms) the hassle, anyone taking the teams in schools deserves the point should they get one. You normally get extra money in any job for doing extra work, as far as I'm aware
Quote from: rionach 4 on October 19, 2013, 03:20:41 PM
In the school I teach in one person receives a point for organising all school teams . He is in charge of all that is to do with the organising of pitches coaches referees etc. That is his post of responsibility . There are upwards on eight teams at different grades. We all coach teams at various levels and we do it for the good of the pupils school and the game that we love. School management see gaelic games as a very integral part of school life and for the holistic education of the pupils. One point for a teacher to co-ordinate all this is a very small price to pay. The rest of us do not get paid and would certainly never seek it or want it. Nor do we resent the person who has the point for the post. It all leads to a very successful approach . I certainly wouldnt call him a 'leech'.
Quote from: Estimator on October 20, 2013, 08:02:30 PM
It doesn't make sense for any school to give a point just for coaching one team. The board of governors must have been snoozing when that was passed. In most schools you would only get 2pts for a HoD or HoY job, which would be a lot more hassle in comparison with taking a few training sessions!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2013, 08:26:02 PMI wouldn't be against it at all. If the school have the budget and are willing to give a teacher(s) points or half points for taking extra curricular activities then fair play! I don't know any teacher that would turn it down.Quote from: Estimator on October 20, 2013, 08:02:30 PM
It doesn't make sense for any school to give a point just for coaching one team. The board of governors must have been snoozing when that was passed. In most schools you would only get 2pts for a HoD or HoY job, which would be a lot more hassle in comparison with taking a few training sessions!
Some schools (certainly my old school) had one teacher looking after all the hurling teams, and another teacher looking after the football teams. My school was a small secondary school so we had one team per year (maybe not, can't remember). I'd say though in the bigger schools (according to ones here) that it's not the case, and the organiser is the only one who gets a point.
In the big rugby schools and even in smaller ones they have non teaching staff paid very well to coach the rugby, and hockey teams.
Have found it strange why all the teachers who have posted on this topic be so against someone getting a few pound extra (not like kids are losing out on teaching because of it) to manage and coach teams.
I've first hand knowledge of teachers getting at least a half point for this
Quote from: Estimator on October 20, 2013, 08:57:09 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2013, 08:26:02 PMI wouldn't be against it at all. If the school have the budget and are willing to give a teacher(s) points or half points for taking extra curricular activities then fair play! I don't know any teacher that would turn it down.Quote from: Estimator on October 20, 2013, 08:02:30 PM
It doesn't make sense for any school to give a point just for coaching one team. The board of governors must have been snoozing when that was passed. In most schools you would only get 2pts for a HoD or HoY job, which would be a lot more hassle in comparison with taking a few training sessions!
Some schools (certainly my old school) had one teacher looking after all the hurling teams, and another teacher looking after the football teams. My school was a small secondary school so we had one team per year (maybe not, can't remember). I'd say though in the bigger schools (according to ones here) that it's not the case, and the organiser is the only one who gets a point.
In the big rugby schools and even in smaller ones they have non teaching staff paid very well to coach the rugby, and hockey teams.
Have found it strange why all the teachers who have posted on this topic be so against someone getting a few pound extra (not like kids are losing out on teaching because of it) to manage and coach teams.
I've first hand knowledge of teachers getting at least a half point for this
Quote from: NP 76 on October 23, 2013, 10:19:41 AMMaybe they have plenty of good forwards and have a shortage of quality defenders, could be their Achilles heel this year.
Abbey were winning by 7 pts. with 10 mins to go and didn't close it out from what I hear. They played one of their best forwards Donnacha Mc Aleenan as a corner back then made a raft of subs which didn't work
Quote from: naka on November 13, 2013, 08:59:14 PM
guys whats the format for the last 8 this year
in the mac rory
is it top 4 in each group and then open draw
if so group a seems to have some serious heavyweights who may miss out
Quote from: tyrone86 on November 14, 2013, 11:12:11 AM
As far as I know the top 2 in each section qualify for the QFs automatically and then the next 4 playoff A3 v B6; A4 v B5; A5 v B4; A6 v B3 and it's open draw after that.
Quote from: Rawhide on November 14, 2013, 12:42:40 PMThe more serious the game the more risk of injury to key players.Quote from: tyrone86 on November 14, 2013, 11:12:11 AM
As far as I know the top 2 in each section qualify for the QFs automatically and then the next 4 playoff A3 v B6; A4 v B5; A5 v B4; A6 v B3 and it's open draw after that.
Yip something like that, and those playoffs will approximately be the week before the quarter finals, which will place the automatic qualifiers who went straight to the quarter finals at a disadvantage. They will being going in cold on the back of a couple of challenge matcsh against a team who has had a very serious game the week before.
Quote from: superbad on November 16, 2013, 07:51:47 PMthey have a long way to go to be in the same class as young Glass.
Disappointing result for Colman's last night but seemed to be very close. Hopefully they will build on it. Was reading the match preview and Maghera seemed to be the favourites. Three Rannafasts in 4 years, some going plus a MacRory/Hogan. How good is young Carr and Aiken? Crossmaglen are doing well.
QuoteOnly 4 clubs represented, ourselves, Silverbridge Cullyhanna and mullaghbawn.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
Young Glass is a serious player. Great to see St Joes winning the Herald Cup, think it is only their second one ever. Some fine young players on the team from the whole area. Only 4 clubs represented, ourselves, Silverbridge Cullyhanna and mullaghbawn.
Quote from: The Worker on November 16, 2013, 09:19:48 PMQuote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
Young Glass is a serious player. Great to see St Joes winning the Herald Cup, think it is only their second one ever. Some fine young players on the team from the whole area. Only 4 clubs represented, ourselves, Silverbridge Cullyhanna and mullaghbawn.
The full forward for st joes seemed a v good player, what club is he ?
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 09:40:19 PMQuote from: The Worker on November 16, 2013, 09:19:48 PMQuote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
Young Glass is a serious player. Great to see St Joes winning the Herald Cup, think it is only their second one ever. Some fine young players on the team from the whole area. Only 4 clubs represented, ourselves, Silverbridge Cullyhanna and mullaghbawn.
The full forward for st joes seemed a v good player, what club is he ?
Left footed? That was miceal mc cabe, he is one of the Cross lads, there are 7 of that team from Cross, the keeper, the full back line, one of the mf, chf and the ff.
Quote from: The Worker on November 16, 2013, 10:30:12 PMQuote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 09:40:19 PMQuote from: The Worker on November 16, 2013, 09:19:48 PMQuote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
Young Glass is a serious player. Great to see St Joes winning the Herald Cup, think it is only their second one ever. Some fine young players on the team from the whole area. Only 4 clubs represented, ourselves, Silverbridge Cullyhanna and mullaghbawn.
The full forward for st joes seemed a v good player, what club is he ?
Left footed? That was miceal mc cabe, he is one of the Cross lads, there are 7 of that team from Cross, the keeper, the full back line, one of the mf, chf and the ff.
Yeah must be. The conveyor belt shows no signs of slowing up then !
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on November 19, 2013, 11:13:45 AM
I wouldn't be crowing too much about it to be honest.
That was a Maghera group of players that has had a lot of relative success up through the grades, not to mention a decorated Hogan winner in their ranks.
They had beaten the same Colmans team by 12 points in the earlier stages of this competition and were heavily fancied going into the final.
Be under no illusions, Colman's were rank outsiders and to get to the final was an achievement in itself..probably just glad to have shared the field with the Derry men.
On the game itself, Glass did nothing until the last 8mins. Colman's midfield had nullified his threat and influence for large parts. Colman's had an excellent first half of football and the halftime whistle came too soon for them. Maghera would been glad to get inside and regroup. They showed a lot better the 2nd half and started to show why they were the strong favourites. Colman's goals were both out of the blue, but the 2nd goal was a fantastic effort. They were in it at the death by the skin of their teeth but again Maghera steadied themselves with some well taken scores and ran out deserved winners. The no4 for Maghera should have walked earlier for his continuous antics off the ball, along with dropping the knee into a guy on the floor. He was a good player but was too involved in the bullsh!t stuff. He walked because he tried to decapitate the Colma's midfielder but actually ended up on his hole.
In the earlier game its was a ding-dong battle too. St Josephs had the more influential ball players in the positions that counted. Thought the ref gave absolutely nothing to Ballymena. He was extremely harsh on them and definitely didn't have a good day. He penalised Ballymena for certain fouls but wasn't as quick to blow when it was Crossmaglen who infringed. The winning score itself was a gift from the ref. Ballymena no11 had 2 men hanging out of him trying to win his ball but was blown for fouling his man. He then moved the ball up due to no11 protests at being blown up when it was evident he was the victim. The free was then brought into shooting range for no14 for Cross. Ballymena no6 presence was missed in the second half whenever he went to full back to nullify Cross danger man.
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on November 19, 2013, 11:38:09 AM
I look at it differently.
A player of that calibre, experience and sheer size should have been influencing the game a lot more than what he was.
Suppose its testament to Colman's midfielders for nullifying his threat somewhat.
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on November 19, 2013, 11:50:03 AM
Youre right it was the first time id seen the lad play. Id read nothing about him or seen any footage of him.
I was told by well informed people at Ulster Colleges level that he was a fantastic talent and was probably the standout player in last years Hogan cup victory.
That's all I was going by, was keen to see how good he was that's all.
Can we really judge his peers in the same light when he is clearly more physically developed than them and has that Hogan winning experience behind him?
He looked like an adult footballer amongst underage players.
Settle yourself.
Quote from: Rawhide on November 23, 2013, 04:59:07 PM
We beat St Colemans again today in a cracking game in Mac Rory league section. Although it in all likelihood it will no effect after Xmas.
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 27, 2013, 12:48:29 PMThat's two of the reasons I thought Mc Cartans could be the team to beat but if St Pats have lads still to come in that will improve their team and the fact that no one beat them in a group that looked stronger on paper than Mc Cartans, well maybe it will be Cavans year!
It should be a good final next week between St Pats Cavan and MaCartans. McCartans have Conor McCarthy Monghan Minor star from this year and corner forward for Scotstown in their attack along with Cavan Minor Captain Tom Hayes.
Pats haven't had a full strength team for the league so its been good progress.
Quote from: elk on November 27, 2013, 02:04:57 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on November 27, 2013, 12:48:29 PMThat's two of the reasons I thought Mc Cartans could be the team to beat but if St Pats have lads still to come in that will improve their team and the fact that no one beat them in a group that looked stronger on paper than Mc Cartans, well maybe it will be Cavans year!
It should be a good final next week between St Pats Cavan and MaCartans. McCartans have Conor McCarthy Monghan Minor star from this year and corner forward for Scotstown in their attack along with Cavan Minor Captain Tom Hayes.
Pats haven't had a full strength team for the league so its been good progress.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 27, 2013, 02:18:00 PMQuote from: elk on November 27, 2013, 02:04:57 PMQuote from: rodney trotter on November 27, 2013, 12:48:29 PMThat's two of the reasons I thought Mc Cartans could be the team to beat but if St Pats have lads still to come in that will improve their team and the fact that no one beat them in a group that looked stronger on paper than Mc Cartans, well maybe it will be Cavans year!
It should be a good final next week between St Pats Cavan and MaCartans. McCartans have Conor McCarthy Monghan Minor star from this year and corner forward for Scotstown in their attack along with Cavan Minor Captain Tom Hayes.
Pats haven't had a full strength team for the league so its been good progress.
Be nice to see a break through from one of the Southern schools. When was the last time either won the Mac Rory??
QuoteWould it be fair to say that some schools offer lower sixth places to boys who offer great service on the football field, but clearly have little academic ability and shouldn't be there?
Quote from: armaghniac on November 27, 2013, 09:44:21 PMQuoteWould it be fair to say that some schools offer lower sixth places to boys who offer great service on the football field, but clearly have little academic ability and shouldn't be there?
Sure why not? There are now schools in the MacRorwho offer places in all years to boys of little academic ability.
Quote from: Orior on November 27, 2013, 09:09:12 PMSurely all grammar schools must have a minimum level of academic achievement they require before they would consider offering a lad a place. Wouldn't be fair on the lad if he was being left behind in class because he isn't fit for the work. Or am I just being naive?
Would it be fair to say that some schools offer lower sixth places to boys who offer great service on the football field, but clearly have little academic ability and shouldn't be there?
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on November 29, 2013, 08:51:02 PM
Don't want to sound nasty but you're being naive Without wanting to sound disrespectful there is an ex St Colmans lad who entered the school in 6th form and who now allegedly has more Hogan Cup medals than he has O Levels
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on November 29, 2013, 08:51:02 PM
Don't want to sound nasty but you're being naive Without wanting to sound disrespectful there is an ex St Colmans lad who entered the school in 6th form and who now allegedly has more Hogan Cup medals than he has O Levels
Quote from: Orior on November 29, 2013, 09:21:46 PMQuote from: Dougal Maguire on November 29, 2013, 08:51:02 PM
Don't want to sound nasty but you're being naive Without wanting to sound disrespectful there is an ex St Colmans lad who entered the school in 6th form and who now allegedly has more Hogan Cup medals than he has O Levels
I was just checking if it happens in other schools. I came across a case where a number of pupils are getting taught on practically a one to one basis. This was a trade off for the school acquiring their gaelic skills. Not only is it wrong, but it detracts from the teaching that other pupils deserve.
Quote from: Orior on November 29, 2013, 09:21:46 PMQuote from: Dougal Maguire on November 29, 2013, 08:51:02 PM
Don't want to sound nasty but you're being naive Without wanting to sound disrespectful there is an ex St Colmans lad who entered the school in 6th form and who now allegedly has more Hogan Cup medals than he has O Levels
I was just checking if it happens in other schools. I came across a case where a number of pupils are getting taught on practically a one to one basis. This was a trade off for the school acquiring their gaelic skills. Not only is it wrong, but it detracts from the teaching that other pupils deserve.
Quote from: sam03/05 on November 29, 2013, 09:40:54 PM
There is no such thing as a Grammar school nowadays, the vast majority will take pupils at 11 who are getting c and below at the entrance / transfer test.
They have to fill the places simple as that.
Quote from: orangeman on November 30, 2013, 12:49:04 AMQuote from: sam03/05 on November 29, 2013, 09:40:54 PM
There is no such thing as a Grammar school nowadays, the vast majority will take pupils at 11 who are getting c and below at the entrance / transfer test.
They have to fill the places simple as that.
Bums on seats.
Quote from: corran on December 09, 2013, 09:44:31 AM
Ulster college all-star trials were held last week.
At one trial 13-aside games were played. Can anyone understand how a fullback or fullforward could have a fair shot at showing what they can do when not played in their chosen position.
Have these positions already been chosen?
Quote from: NAG1 on December 09, 2013, 10:59:06 AMWould have to agree should be picked on performances throughout the league stages.Quote from: corran on December 09, 2013, 09:44:31 AM
Ulster college all-star trials were held last week.
At one trial 13-aside games were played. Can anyone understand how a fullback or fullforward could have a fair shot at showing what they can do when not played in their chosen position.
Have these positions already been chosen?
Never understood the rationale for these trial games, the All Stars should be picked the same as the Senior ones on match performances no?
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on December 10, 2013, 08:32:58 PMKnow a couple of parents who's lads were involved this year who also claim it is a farce and were sorry their lads waste a day out of class.Team mentors at the trials looking after the interests of their own lads with strategic team selection/positioning to ensure their lads look better if playing against or for the team their in charge off. What's the point of the trials if it's not an even playing field?
My young lad was called for a trial last year. He said it was the worse run farce he ever had the misfortune to be part of
Quote from: elk on December 09, 2013, 12:53:10 PMQuote from: NAG1 on December 09, 2013, 10:59:06 AMWould have to agree should be picked on performances throughout the league stages.Quote from: corran on December 09, 2013, 09:44:31 AM
Ulster college all-star trials were held last week.
At one trial 13-aside games were played. Can anyone understand how a fullback or fullforward could have a fair shot at showing what they can do when not played in their chosen position.
Have these positions already been chosen?
Never understood the rationale for these trial games, the All Stars should be picked the same as the Senior ones on match performances no?
Quote from: FermGael on December 11, 2013, 03:17:41 PMLiving in the states now, and they have a great system. Schools are put into groups acording to size, and each year, the have "all star" awards for each group. i.e., a MacRory , McLarnon, etc all stars. Some of the sports identify the all stars based on votes from team mentors / opp team mentors for each game. The mentors pick a defensive / midfilder and forward vote for each games. At the end of the year, votes are tallied, and you have an all star awards.Quote from: elk on December 09, 2013, 12:53:10 PMQuote from: NAG1 on December 09, 2013, 10:59:06 AMWould have to agree should be picked on performances throughout the league stages.Quote from: corran on December 09, 2013, 09:44:31 AM
Ulster college all-star trials were held last week.
At one trial 13-aside games were played. Can anyone understand how a fullback or fullforward could have a fair shot at showing what they can do when not played in their chosen position.
Have these positions already been chosen?
Never understood the rationale for these trial games, the All Stars should be picked the same as the Senior ones on match performances no?
Would agree as well but very hard to watch all the college's football in Ulster.
There is not just the 'A' Competition ( the McRory) but also the 'B' and 'C' competitions as well to consider.
How would anybody see all the games?
Impossible ask and "trials" are probably the only way of doing it.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Delighted to report that our Club has its first college All Star this year, so I think it's a superb system.
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 13, 2013, 02:49:40 PMQuote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Delighted to report that our Club has its first college All Star this year, so I think it's a superb system.
Who was that? Is there a list up any where? Surprised that more from your club haven't got one when you look at some of the players that have came through and had big underage success. Then again they were all more than likely playing Markey Cup football.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 03:10:02 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on December 13, 2013, 02:49:40 PMQuote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Delighted to report that our Club has its first college All Star this year, so I think it's a superb system.
Who was that? Is there a list up any where? Surprised that more from your club haven't got one when you look at some of the players that have came through and had big underage success. Then again they were all more than likely playing Markey Cup football.
Cathal McShane won one. They aren't officially out til Monday, but a lot of chatter on twitter of cubs saying who got them. Jarlath Og Burns got one as well.
Not totally au fait with how it works, but St Colmans/ HCC only came into the Ulster Colleges stable a few years back. I am assuming in Markey Cup days they weren't eligible.
Not sure or remember why Declan McCrossan never got one.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 03:10:02 PM
Not sure or remember why Declan McCrossan never got one.
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 13, 2013, 04:10:56 PMQuote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 03:10:02 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on December 13, 2013, 02:49:40 PMQuote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Delighted to report that our Club has its first college All Star this year, so I think it's a superb system.
Who was that? Is there a list up any where? Surprised that more from your club haven't got one when you look at some of the players that have came through and had big underage success. Then again they were all more than likely playing Markey Cup football.
Cathal McShane won one. They aren't officially out til Monday, but a lot of chatter on twitter of cubs saying who got them. Jarlath Og Burns got one as well.
Not totally au fait with how it works, but St Colmans/ HCC only came into the Ulster Colleges stable a few years back. I am assuming in Markey Cup days they weren't eligible.
Not sure or remember why Declan McCrossan never got one.
When you think of some of the players from St Colmans who would have been in the running, there would have been Paul Bradley, Jim Devine, Declan McCrossan and Brendan Boggs who would have all more than likely got one.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 04:45:55 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on December 13, 2013, 04:10:56 PMQuote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 03:10:02 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on December 13, 2013, 02:49:40 PMQuote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Delighted to report that our Club has its first college All Star this year, so I think it's a superb system.
Who was that? Is there a list up any where? Surprised that more from your club haven't got one when you look at some of the players that have came through and had big underage success. Then again they were all more than likely playing Markey Cup football.
Cathal McShane won one. They aren't officially out til Monday, but a lot of chatter on twitter of cubs saying who got them. Jarlath Og Burns got one as well.
Not totally au fait with how it works, but St Colmans/ HCC only came into the Ulster Colleges stable a few years back. I am assuming in Markey Cup days they weren't eligible.
Not sure or remember why Declan McCrossan never got one.
When you think of some of the players from St Colmans who would have been in the running, there would have been Paul Bradley, Jim Devine, Declan McCrossan and Brendan Boggs who would have all more than likely got one.
If I remember neither Jim nor definitely Deccy went to St Colmans... I think. Declan definitely didn't.
Quote from: elk on January 30, 2014, 09:04:48 AMelk abbey did what they had to do
Don't think the winners of Armagh/Dungannon will lose any sleep over facing the Abbey based on last nights performance.
Quote from: naka on January 30, 2014, 10:11:51 AMI'm sure St.Pauls missed scores they should have taken also. It was not an impressive performance and if they play like that against better opposition and there are better teams than St. Pauls in the competition, they will get beat!Quote from: elk on January 30, 2014, 09:04:48 AMelk abbey did what they had to do
Don't think the winners of Armagh/Dungannon will lose any sleep over facing the Abbey based on last nights performance.
should had 2 more goals
Quote from: naka on January 31, 2014, 02:29:46 PM
tonites match is off
water logged pitch
Quote from: shawshank on February 01, 2014, 01:00:37 AM
Trained tonight on our club pitch
Quote from: tyroneboi on January 31, 2014, 06:51:57 PM
Academy match moved to Sunday in Eglish at 2.
Quote from: Rawhide on February 06, 2014, 09:22:40 AMAlot tougher assignment against Mccartans in the 1/4 finals. Promises to be a great match up and game which I fancy Mccartans just to edge, overall winners could come from this tie. Either way one off the favourites will be going out, good news for all the remaining teams.
Very easy win for St Pat's last night against St Marys Magherafelt. They played a lot of good football and also played as a team. That game will bring them on a lot for the quarter.
Quote from: SkillfulBill on February 13, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
The refing in that game was seriously suspect. The Abbey can without doubt thank Higgins for keeping them in the competition. In the closing mins he allowed a 14 yard free to be retaken after been missed. Academy 4 pts up with 2 mins left on clock Academy played a long ball into Fintan McClure at fullforward. McClure was out in front and was clearly pushed in the back. Ref gives a free out for touching ball on ground not even the most partisan in the ground could understand it. Had the decision been made fairly Academy would have pointed and been 5 up game over. Instead ball goes down the other end goal. Ref calls 3 mins extra time. Abbey equalises in the 4 min of extra time. I dont often comment on ref'ing but i did find that display very questionable.It's not up to the man in the middle to have such an impact on the result.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 14, 2014, 08:12:10 AMQuote from: SkillfulBill on February 13, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
The refing in that game was seriously suspect. The Abbey can without doubt thank Higgins for keeping them in the competition. In the closing mins he allowed a 14 yard free to be retaken after been missed. Academy 4 pts up with 2 mins left on clock Academy played a long ball into Fintan McClure at fullforward. McClure was out in front and was clearly pushed in the back. Ref gives a free out for touching ball on ground not even the most partisan in the ground could understand it. Had the decision been made fairly Academy would have pointed and been 5 up game over. Instead ball goes down the other end goal. Ref calls 3 mins extra time. Abbey equalises in the 4 min of extra time. I dont often comment on ref'ing but i did find that display very questionable.It's not up to the man in the middle to have such an impact on the result.
I agree the ref got it right plus Academy did try to waste as much time as they could and have only themselves for not closing the game out. I thought if the Abbey had taken their chances in the 1st half the game would have been over, missed alot of frees. Can't see the Abbey playing as poorly again but Gromley needs to have a serious look at how he is lining his team out especailly in midfield and half back line. Number 8 for Acamemy had a great game, maybe a few too many steps for his goal but great to see a young lad playing football in such a positive manner.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 14, 2014, 08:12:10 AMstill think this is a 50/50 gameQuote from: SkillfulBill on February 13, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
The refing in that game was seriously suspect. The Abbey can without doubt thank Higgins for keeping them in the competition. In the closing mins he allowed a 14 yard free to be retaken after been missed. Academy 4 pts up with 2 mins left on clock Academy played a long ball into Fintan McClure at fullforward. McClure was out in front and was clearly pushed in the back. Ref gives a free out for touching ball on ground not even the most partisan in the ground could understand it. Had the decision been made fairly Academy would have pointed and been 5 up game over. Instead ball goes down the other end goal. Ref calls 3 mins extra time. Abbey equalises in the 4 min of extra time. I dont often comment on ref'ing but i did find that display very questionable.It's not up to the man in the middle to have such an impact on the result.
Academy have only themselves to blame. With the exception of a fifteen minute spell before half-time, they were far and away the better side.
With regards to your points above, the free wasn't from 14 yards; it was closer to fifty yards and was moved forward for the second attempt due to some sort of skullduggery from the Academy players when the first attempt was being taken. In the incident involving McClure (assuming it was the same one), the ball had passed both players and McClure was blown for a push, clearly signalled by Higgins. I thought the 3 minutes injury time was skimpy enough, given a couple of quite long stoppages for injuries to Academy players. The Abbey goal was scored after 32 minutes and 20 seconds; they won the kickout and a free kick was correctly awarded during the ensuing attack. As a neutral I thought Higgins got all three calls spot on.
Not his fault the Academy, whatever an academy is, couldn't close the game out. they should win the replay relatively comfortably though.
Quote from: haranguerer on February 13, 2014, 10:04:18 PM
I can imagine, and I'd have been as pissed off as anyone else if the ref had blew...but with all the talk about enforcing rules, it's one that seems to be just left to any refs interpretation. Like if you were strolling out of defence with no one round you, you'd be blown for 4 and a half steps, but when you're going by men or bearing down on goal, you'll get away with 8. It's just strange
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2014, 02:48:09 PMBannside you jest, St Colmans probably the most successful side in the competition
Who are the College?????
Quote from: elk on February 18, 2014, 09:23:18 AM
Anyone know where and what time the college v omagh game is?
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2014, 08:15:54 PM
Oh THE college. Jesting HS. I know Violet Hill self claim the rights to that title but there are a few pretenders who that word drives crazy.
Fancy THE Academy myself lol.
Quote from: naka on February 20, 2014, 09:30:53 PM
academy win by 4 in the end
wasn't at it so cant give an update
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on February 21, 2014, 10:14:33 AM13 or 15 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? I'm sure anyone who took the time to go to the game will be able to work it out.
Name the corner forward.
Quote from: elk on February 21, 2014, 11:52:24 AMQuote from: Brick Tamlin on February 21, 2014, 10:14:33 AM13 or 15 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? I'm sure anyone who took the time to go to the game will be able to work it out.
Name the corner forward.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 21, 2014, 12:25:27 PMonly leaves one candidate thenQuote from: elk on February 21, 2014, 11:52:24 AMQuote from: Brick Tamlin on February 21, 2014, 10:14:33 AM13 or 15 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? I'm sure anyone who took the time to go to the game will be able to work it out.
Name the corner forward.
And anyone who took the time to go to the game would know 15 didn't start.
Quote from: elk on February 21, 2014, 12:47:59 PMQuote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 21, 2014, 12:25:27 PMonly leaves one candidate thenQuote from: elk on February 21, 2014, 11:52:24 AMQuote from: Brick Tamlin on February 21, 2014, 10:14:33 AM13 or 15 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? I'm sure anyone who took the time to go to the game will be able to work it out.
Name the corner forward.
And anyone who took the time to go to the game would know 15 didn't start.
Quote from: superbad on February 22, 2014, 09:56:37 AM
How many of the Maghera team played last year?
Quote from: Jimmy on February 22, 2014, 01:39:26 PMQuote from: superbad on February 22, 2014, 09:56:37 AM
How many of the Maghera team played last year?
Ciaran McCloy, Oisin Hegerty, Cathal Mulholland, Peter Hagan, Conor Glass, Cormac O'Doherty, and Danny Tallon all started last years team.
Quote from: Any craic on February 22, 2014, 12:56:39 PM
Video: See action & reaction from St Pat's Maghera 3-7 St Macartans 2-4 in last night's Danske Bank MacRory QF http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org)
Quote from: everymanaman on February 25, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
Two Tyrone schools meeting at a Monaghan venue. Sad reflection of clubs in Tyrone that a venue within the county isn't available.
Quote from: everymanaman on February 25, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
Two Tyrone schools meeting at a Monaghan venue. Sad reflection of clubs in Tyrone that a venue within the county isn't available.
Quote from: God14 on February 25, 2014, 03:50:18 PMI would be unhappy with the management
Hard to tell from the camera angle, but keeper looks well off his line?
Quote from: NP 76 on February 25, 2014, 09:18:19 PMI play percentages as a manager
Don't get what you mean Naka chance of a goal to win the game with the last kick I thought he made the right choice. I myself wouldn't if been keen on him hitting it I would of went for O Hagan who was outstanding and was full of confidence
Quote from: naka on February 25, 2014, 10:40:19 PMI agree, tough on the young lad but fairplay at least he wasn't afraid to take on the responsiblity, would have been a hero if he had score though. Thought Haugey would have been their go to man in a situation like that.
Np
Cathal Murray or mussein should have made the call as both are experienced.
Would have seen the replay on Thursday.
Am not a college man but genuinely disappointed for the kid who missed.
Quote from: Any craic on February 27, 2014, 08:15:51 AM
Video: See extended highlights from last night's MacLarnon Semi-final as St Eunan's Letterkeny beat St Malachy's Belfast at a very wet and windy Garvaghey..
http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-st-eunans-rain-supreme-danske-bank-maclarnon-cup-extended-highlights/ (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-st-eunans-rain-supreme-danske-bank-maclarnon-cup-extended-highlights/)
Quote from: orangeman on February 27, 2014, 10:38:36 AMQuote from: Any craic on February 27, 2014, 08:15:51 AM
Video: See extended highlights from last night's MacLarnon Semi-final as St Eunan's Letterkeny beat St Malachy's Belfast at a very wet and windy Garvaghey..
http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-st-eunans-rain-supreme-danske-bank-maclarnon-cup-extended-highlights/ (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-st-eunans-rain-supreme-danske-bank-maclarnon-cup-extended-highlights/)
Wet and windy ?
Quote from: Rawhide on March 02, 2014, 08:20:49 PM
Superb victory on Friday night. Thank God that St Pats Cavan were beaten playing crap football like that, no harm playing a sweeper, but that had four for half the game, brutal football form them and delighted to see them gone. Can't St Pats getting beaten.
Quote from: drici on March 29, 2014, 05:29:52 PM
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Quote from: rodney trotter on April 12, 2014, 02:21:34 PM
Magheras display last year in the Hogan Final against Pats Navan was unreal. A good number still involved like Danny Tallon, Conor Glass, who is still 16.
Quote from: johnpower on April 12, 2014, 03:35:25 PM
Do black cards apply in this game?
Quote from: theticklemister on April 12, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
STRANGE GAME OF FOOTBALL HERE
Quote from: theticklemister on April 12, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
Maghera have flooded a lot of men back, but they have failed to break at speed.
Quote from: oakleafgael on April 12, 2014, 04:37:34 PM
Maghera where abject today and because of that they probably didn't deserve anything but the standard of refereeing was appalling.
Quote from: 5 Sams on April 12, 2014, 08:38:57 PMwith Jack O Connor manager of their minors that long wait could be about to end
Some of the fielding in MF today from both sides was astounding. Maghera could have had the game won at half time but that was some performance from PCD in the 2nd half. I'd love to know what Fitz and Tommy G said at half time. Hard to believe Kerry havent won a minor AI since 1994. Is West Kerry leading the charge for more underage success for the Kingdom?
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 29, 2014, 09:56:36 PM
No big deal. Tyrone and Armagh fools have been at it for years. At least we now know where Mike Sheehy is employed.
Quote from: cockahoop on April 13, 2014, 07:10:23 PM
Very disappointed with maghera today,a lot of players seemed very heavy legged and dare I say a stone over weight!!
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Did Glass and Tallon both not get all Stars?
Quote from: theticklemister on December 18, 2014, 09:18:17 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Did Glass and Tallon both not get all Stars?
what was the team?
That Tallon man still in school?????????
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 18, 2014, 09:20:43 PMQuote from: theticklemister on December 18, 2014, 09:18:17 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Did Glass and Tallon both not get all Stars?
what was the team?
That Tallon man still in school?????????
Tallon is first year at Uni and no Glass didn't get an All Star. Callum Mullan-Young was the Glen lad who got one this year.
Quote from: theticklemister on December 18, 2014, 09:36:13 PMThat wasn't funny the first time ;)Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 18, 2014, 09:20:43 PMQuote from: theticklemister on December 18, 2014, 09:18:17 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Did Glass and Tallon both not get all Stars?
what was the team?
That Tallon man still in school?????????
Tallon is first year at Uni and no Glass didn't get an All Star. Callum Mullan-Young was the Glen lad who got one this year.
Aye Tallon must be in his mid-20s
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 18, 2014, 09:20:43 PMQuote from: theticklemister on December 18, 2014, 09:18:17 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Did Glass and Tallon both not get all Stars?
what was the team?
That Tallon man still in school?????????
Tallon is first year at Uni and no Glass didn't get an All Star. Callum Mullan-Young was the Glen lad who got one this year.
Quote from: NP 76 on February 15, 2015, 11:27:27 PM
Your right Naka that save won the game for St. Paul's. Great game in really poor conditions. A credit to both sets of players and managers. I thought John Rafferty spent as much time on the field as some players today on top of the referee after every decision against him.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2015, 09:56:51 PM
G who dressed Marty Clarke the day, was that what has been going for style in the land down under past few years, oh boy!!
Marty Clarke WANTED!! for crimes against Fashion!!
Quote from: ONeill on March 17, 2015, 11:30:08 PM
That's a great Cavan side.
Quote from: Line Ball on March 17, 2015, 10:07:07 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2015, 09:56:51 PM
G who dressed Marty Clarke the day, was that what has been going for style in the land down under past few years, oh boy!!
Marty Clarke WANTED!! for crimes against Fashion!!
Absolute madness and not a shamrock in sight unlike in Ravenhill.
What was worse was the language of Galligan when he described his team mates as being 'f**king savage' in his live interview after the game. Was there not a lad a few years ago in Croke Park who also let a load of 'fcuks' go on the steps of the Hogan? I know lads get caught up in the moment but it doesn't take much for a lad to say a few words without swearing.
Quote from: yellowcard on March 18, 2015, 10:04:28 AMQuote from: Line Ball on March 17, 2015, 10:07:07 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2015, 09:56:51 PM
G who dressed Marty Clarke the day, was that what has been going for style in the land down under past few years, oh boy!!
Marty Clarke WANTED!! for crimes against Fashion!!
Absolute madness and not a shamrock in sight unlike in Ravenhill.
What was worse was the language of Galligan when he described his team mates as being 'f**king savage' in his live interview after the game. Was there not a lad a few years ago in Croke Park who also let a load of 'fcuks' go on the steps of the Hogan? I know lads get caught up in the moment but it doesn't take much for a lad to say a few words without swearing.
The Castleblayney captain who won the McLarnon cup also give an interview at half time in the McRory final where he threw in a f**k on live tv whilst standing beside the school principal. The stairs don't seem to go the full way to the attic with some of these lads.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2015, 09:46:49 AM
Young Galligan an excellent footballer. Seen him at close quarters in the Ulster minor final at St Pauls. Big future ahead of him.
Cavan favourites for Ulster minor title this summer?
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 18, 2015, 10:54:41 AMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2015, 09:46:49 AM
Young Galligan an excellent footballer. Seen him at close quarters in the Ulster minor final at St Pauls. Big future ahead of him.
Cavan favourites for Ulster minor title this summer?
You would imagine Derry should do better this year as well as Tyrone who had two schools in the last 4 of the McRory.
Quote from: Blue in hope on March 20, 2015, 09:58:08 AM
Heard the semi final between St Pats v dingle is on in Portlaoise on Saturday 28th March. Can anyone confirm?
Quote from: blanketattack on March 28, 2015, 10:29:24 PM
Congrats to pcd. Incredible achievement for a small school like pcd with a catchment of just 2 GAA clubs - Dingle and Gaeltacht against a school with a panel comprised from 14 clubs
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on March 28, 2015, 11:41:30 PMI'll start the ball rolling soQuote from: blanketattack on March 28, 2015, 10:29:24 PM
Congrats to pcd. Incredible achievement for a small school like pcd with a catchment of just 2 GAA clubs - Dingle and Gaeltacht against a school with a panel comprised from 14 clubs
They'd have 3 clubs nearby actually. Dingle, An Ghaeltacht agus Lispole. Not sure if any players from Lispole on current team though.
And you're right. 4 Munster colleges in a row and now going for 2nd Hogan cup back to back..it's a fairly ridiculous achievement for a small school.
I assume given they face a Roscommon team in the final we'll have a 100 page thread on here? Beforehand everything will be set against the Ross team, the venue, the ref etc..then afterwards we will hear how Ross were unlucky and were actually the better team.. ;D
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on March 28, 2015, 11:41:30 PMQuote from: blanketattack on March 28, 2015, 10:29:24 PM
Congrats to pcd. Incredible achievement for a small school like pcd with a catchment of just 2 GAA clubs - Dingle and Gaeltacht against a school with a panel comprised from 14 clubs
They'd have 3 clubs nearby actually. Dingle, An Ghaeltacht agus Lispole. Not sure if any players from Lispole on current team though.
And you're right. 4 Munster colleges in a row and now going for 2nd Hogan cup back to back..it's a fairly ridiculous achievement for a small school.
I assume given they face a Roscommon team in the final we'll have a 100 page thread on here? Beforehand everything will be set against the Ross team, the venue, the ref etc..then afterwards we will hear how Ross were unlucky and were actually the better team.. ;D
Quote from: Itchy on December 16, 2017, 01:18:38 PM
Cor Na Nog final half time.
St Pats Cavan 3-9
St Pats Maghera 0-3
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 25, 2018, 04:11:57 PM
Finished 6-7 to 1-13 in Bellaghy.
Big crowd of over 3,200 people - would any of the Irish League soccer matches have gotten close to that yesterday?
Quote from: Rois on February 26, 2018, 08:42:37 PM
Is the final on Mon 19th rather than on St Patrick's Day itself?
I've a husband who won a McLarnon Cup medal with St Michael's Lurgan in the 90s who has spent a lot of time reminiscing since this result. Family trip on the cards whatever day it's on.
Quote from: Rois on February 26, 2018, 08:42:37 PM
Is the final on Mon 19th rather than on St Patrick's Day itself?
I've a husband who won a McLarnon Cup medal with St Michael's Lurgan in the 90s who has spent a lot of time reminiscing since this result. Family trip on the cards whatever day it's on.
Quote from: Orior on February 26, 2018, 10:45:26 PMNah, but I've got a few, thought it best to distinguish. Not all my husbands have schools football medals. This sets him apart within the group.Quote from: Rois on February 26, 2018, 08:42:37 PM
Is the final on Mon 19th rather than on St Patrick's Day itself?
I've a husband who won a McLarnon Cup medal with St Michael's Lurgan in the 90s who has spent a lot of time reminiscing since this result. Family trip on the cards whatever day it's on.
Ha! Do you keep in in the trophy cabinet? Take him for walks? Play hide and seek with him?
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 25, 2018, 10:58:53 PM
Turns out the Beeb were there - http://www.bbc.com/sport/gaelic-games/43192816
Quote from: The Gs Man on February 27, 2018, 10:04:16 AM
1995 Rois?
I'd have been a fresh faced first year then trying to break into the squad. I'm sure I know him.
Quote from: The Gs Man on February 26, 2018, 08:30:03 AMthe commentary is hilarious...oh he's a big fella you'd know he was from Madden.....he could throw a stone and be home before it hit the ground....
Great footage of the game on Armagh TV by the way.
Quote from: Targetman on February 27, 2018, 07:16:52 PMI'd expect it's a long time since Dungannon entered a tier 2 competition. I'm going to guess that Cavan have an unbelievable crop. Or, maybe looking at that scoreline, a 6' 2" 12 year old.
That scoreline is terrible for the losers, is there not a tiered competition at this level?
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 27, 2018, 06:07:19 PM
St Pats Cavan beat Dungannon in Dalton 15 21 to 1 4. Some scoreline.
Quote from: orangeman on March 01, 2018, 11:56:06 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on February 27, 2018, 06:07:19 PM
St Pats Cavan beat Dungannon in Dalton 15 21 to 1 4. Some scoreline.
The ref should be bate for texting in that scoreline. Had the ref no compassion as well as the Cavan team ?. :)
Quote from: Therealdonald on March 02, 2018, 10:14:04 PMThat was the 2006 final. Remember it well myself for all the wrong reasons, standing on the edge of the Casement Park field waiting to run on for final celebrations then the Abbey scored that last minute goal to win it.
Just coming up to St Paddy's Day brings back memories of watching McCrory Cup finals then the club finals? What are some people's best memories, hard to top Kevin Dyas and Marty Clarke's battle in the 2005 final. Two superb players at that age level.
Quote from: Rois on March 19, 2018, 02:46:38 PM
And in his sign-off, Mark Sidebottom just congratulated St Paul's... ::)
Quote from: illdecide on March 19, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
Still a we bit of football left in Lurgan yet!!! ;D
Quote from: illdecide on March 19, 2018, 03:31:46 PMAghagallon minors with a handful of Lurgan men sa!
Still a we bit of football left in Lurgan yet!!! ;D
Quote from: illdecide on March 19, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
Still a we bit of football left in Lurgan yet!!! ;D
Quote from: Orior on March 19, 2018, 04:49:49 PMQuote from: illdecide on March 19, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
Still a we bit of football left in Lurgan yet!!! ;D
Can anyone list the clubs for the St Ronan's players
Quote from: Rois on March 19, 2018, 02:46:38 PM
And in his sign-off, Mark Sidebottom just congratulated St Paul's... ::)
Quote from: Smokin Joe on March 19, 2018, 05:11:37 PMQuote from: Orior on March 19, 2018, 04:49:49 PMQuote from: illdecide on March 19, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
Still a we bit of football left in Lurgan yet!!! ;D
Can anyone list the clubs for the St Ronan's players
Did they say 9 Aghagallon men during the commentary. Clan na Gael, Clan Eireann and St Peters all got a mention too
Quote from: stiffler on March 19, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Mulholland aghagallon
Haddock clan eireann
Mulholland aghagallon
Mc closkey Eire og
Mccreanor clan na gael
Lamont aghagallon
Haughey Wolfe tones
Lenehan aghagallon
Kelly clan eireann
Meehan clan eireann
Loughran aghagallon
Smyth sarsfields
Mc conville st pauls
Monterio tir na nog
Mc conville clan eireann
Subs used:
Megoran wolfe fones
Mc afee aghagallon
Quote from: Targetman on March 19, 2018, 07:07:15 PM
From my days at the Abbey I never remembered anyone from Lurgan even going to the school never mind playing Mac Rory cup, Lurgan ones all went to the Armagh Rd!!
Quote from: jmk on March 19, 2018, 08:12:16 PM
being from Lurgan , I've never heard of anyone from the town who ever went to the Abbey
Quote from: Targetman on March 19, 2018, 07:07:15 PM
From my days at the Abbey I never remembered anyone from Lurgan even going to the school never mind playing Mac Rory cup, Lurgan ones all went to the Armagh Rd!!
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 19, 2018, 05:37:35 PMQuote from: stiffler on March 19, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Mulholland aghagallon
Haddock clan eireann
Mulholland aghagallon
Mc closkey Eire og
Mccreanor clan na gael
Lamont aghagallon
Haughey Wolfe tones
Lenehan aghagallon
Kelly clan eireann
Meehan clan eireann
Loughran aghagallon
Smyth sarsfields
Mc conville st pauls
Monterio tir na nog
Mc conville clan eireann
Subs used:
Megoran wolfe fones
Mc afee aghagallon
So, the days of leaving Lurgan to go to Newry to the Abbey or Colman's to win a MacRory Cup medal are well and truly over. Imagine how competitive St Ronan's would be if all the best players in its catchment area stayed in Lurgan for their post 16 education.
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 20, 2018, 08:16:51 AMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on March 19, 2018, 05:37:35 PMQuote from: stiffler on March 19, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Mulholland aghagallon
Haddock clan eireann
Mulholland aghagallon
Mc closkey Eire og
Mccreanor clan na gael
Lamont aghagallon
Haughey Wolfe tones
Lenehan aghagallon
Kelly clan eireann
Meehan clan eireann
Loughran aghagallon
Smyth sarsfields
Mc conville st pauls
Monterio tir na nog
Mc conville clan eireann
Subs used:
Megoran wolfe fones
Mc afee aghagallon
So, the days of leaving Lurgan to go to Newry to the Abbey or Colman's to win a MacRory Cup medal are well and truly over. Imagine how competitive St Ronan's would be if all the best players in its catchment area stayed in Lurgan for their post 16 education.
The first years who have applied to St.Ronan's next year is already well above what they're allowed to take.
It'll be the biggest school in the north, numbers wise, when the new build is finished in a couple of years.
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 20, 2018, 09:32:49 AMQuote from: The Gs Man on March 20, 2018, 08:16:51 AMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on March 19, 2018, 05:37:35 PMQuote from: stiffler on March 19, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Mulholland aghagallon
Haddock clan eireann
Mulholland aghagallon
Mc closkey Eire og
Mccreanor clan na gael
Lamont aghagallon
Haughey Wolfe tones
Lenehan aghagallon
Kelly clan eireann
Meehan clan eireann
Loughran aghagallon
Smyth sarsfields
Mc conville st pauls
Monterio tir na nog
Mc conville clan eireann
Subs used:
Megoran wolfe fones
Mc afee aghagallon
So, the days of leaving Lurgan to go to Newry to the Abbey or Colman's to win a MacRory Cup medal are well and truly over. Imagine how competitive St Ronan's would be if all the best players in its catchment area stayed in Lurgan for their post 16 education.
The first years who have applied to St.Ronan's next year is already well above what they're allowed to take.
It'll be the biggest school in the north, numbers wise, when the new build is finished in a couple of years.
I take it a lot of the Clann Eireann minor squad go to other schools then?
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 20, 2018, 10:10:34 AMQuote from: nrico2006 on March 20, 2018, 09:32:49 AMQuote from: The Gs Man on March 20, 2018, 08:16:51 AMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on March 19, 2018, 05:37:35 PMQuote from: stiffler on March 19, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Mulholland aghagallon
Haddock clan eireann
Mulholland aghagallon
Mc closkey Eire og
Mccreanor clan na gael
Lamont aghagallon
Haughey Wolfe tones
Lenehan aghagallon
Kelly clan eireann
Meehan clan eireann
Loughran aghagallon
Smyth sarsfields
Mc conville st pauls
Monterio tir na nog
Mc conville clan eireann
Subs used:
Megoran wolfe fones
Mc afee aghagallon
So, the days of leaving Lurgan to go to Newry to the Abbey or Colman's to win a MacRory Cup medal are well and truly over. Imagine how competitive St Ronan's would be if all the best players in its catchment area stayed in Lurgan for their post 16 education.
The first years who have applied to St.Ronan's next year is already well above what they're allowed to take.
It'll be the biggest school in the north, numbers wise, when the new build is finished in a couple of years.
I take it a lot of the Clann Eireann minor squad go to other schools then?
Not sure, but they've 8 lads on the panel, which is a large enough number surely?
Some of them could be lower 6th or younger so may not have made the squad this year.
Quote from: illdecide on March 20, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
St Ronan's will be in or around 2000 pupils, bear in mind 50% of that figure are female (or there about), you wanna see the sporting set up for their new school...very impressive in deed. Aghagallon are really strong at minor level and i'm glad to see it, hopefully they can mature into good senior players and compete at senior level in Antrim...In all seriousness Aghagallon has a great catchment area and is getting bigger by the year, soon it'll be a small town, it's expanding like Jim Stynes waistline ;). An antrim senior Championship in the next 5 years? (bold statement).
Funny you men mention the Abbey, any Lurgan man with half a brain ended up at St Coleman's but never the Abbey. suppose they had the football in mind when selecting their school :P.
Quote from: illdecide on March 20, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
St Ronan's will be in or around 2000 pupils, bear in mind 50% of that figure are female (or there about), you wanna see the sporting set up for their new school...very impressive in deed. Aghagallon are really strong at minor level and i'm glad to see it, hopefully they can mature into good senior players and compete at senior level in Antrim...In all seriousness Aghagallon has a great catchment area and is getting bigger by the year, soon it'll be a small town, it's expanding like Jim Stynes waistline ;). An antrim senior Championship in the next 5 years? (bold statement).
Funny you men mention the Abbey, any Lurgan man with half a brain ended up at St Coleman's but never the Abbey. suppose they had the football in mind when selecting their school :P.
Quote from: lurganblue on March 20, 2018, 12:08:16 PMQuote from: illdecide on March 20, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
St Ronan's will be in or around 2000 pupils, bear in mind 50% of that figure are female (or there about), you wanna see the sporting set up for their new school...very impressive in deed. Aghagallon are really strong at minor level and i'm glad to see it, hopefully they can mature into good senior players and compete at senior level in Antrim...In all seriousness Aghagallon has a great catchment area and is getting bigger by the year, soon it'll be a small town, it's expanding like Jim Stynes waistline ;). An antrim senior Championship in the next 5 years? (bold statement).
Funny you men mention the Abbey, any Lurgan man with half a brain ended up at St Coleman's but never the Abbey. suppose they had the football in mind when selecting their school :P.
I only know of people who left the town to go to either St Colmans or St Pats. With St Ronan's now declaring themselves as a grammar it means that kids joining either St Colmans or St Pats wont get free travel like they used too. That will be the main impact on the ability of parents to send their kids to other schools.
Quote from: general_lee on March 20, 2018, 01:32:24 PM
Great achievement by St Ronans. I'm not sure though how long they can continue at this level in the immediate future (maybe someone in the know can correct me) but this current squad is backboned by last year's Armagh minor winners and last years antrim minor finalists. All players from a 6 mile radius between 9 clubs.
As for pupils going to Newry... Can't see too many wanting to go St Colmans for a variety of reasons of late. With St Paul's Bessbrook also playing McRory, Castlewellan, and St Ronans etc the days of St Colmans attracting players from south and north Armagh, east Down could well be over.
Quote from: illdecide on March 20, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
Funny you men mention the Abbey, any Lurgan man with half a brain ended up at St Coleman's but never the Abbey. suppose they had the football in mind when selecting their school :P.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 20, 2018, 08:39:00 PMQuote from: lurganblue on March 20, 2018, 12:08:16 PMQuote from: illdecide on March 20, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
St Ronan's will be in or around 2000 pupils, bear in mind 50% of that figure are female (or there about), you wanna see the sporting set up for their new school...very impressive in deed. Aghagallon are really strong at minor level and i'm glad to see it, hopefully they can mature into good senior players and compete at senior level in Antrim...In all seriousness Aghagallon has a great catchment area and is getting bigger by the year, soon it'll be a small town, it's expanding like Jim Stynes waistline ;). An antrim senior Championship in the next 5 years? (bold statement).
Funny you men mention the Abbey, any Lurgan man with half a brain ended up at St Coleman's but never the Abbey. suppose they had the football in mind when selecting their school :P.
I only know of people who left the town to go to either St Colmans or St Pats. With St Ronan's now declaring themselves as a grammar it means that kids joining either St Colmans or St Pats wont get free travel like they used too. That will be the main impact on the ability of parents to send their kids to other schools.
Free travel is now gone for a third year. Is a place in Colman's over St Ronan's worth £50 a month for the bus?
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 12:10:41 PM
Does anybody care that it was absolute dross and hard to watch? Mirroring the way the senior game is going lately.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 01:31:59 PM
Personally I think McRory is over hyped and often turgid football.
Promoted by teachers who often have plenty of authority in the GAA.
Take the Maghera management for example. You wouldn't put them in charge of the club U10s.
Quote from: trailer on March 21, 2018, 01:39:41 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 01:31:59 PM
Personally I think McRory is over hyped and often turgid football.
Promoted by teachers who often have plenty of authority in the GAA.
Take the Maghera management for example. You wouldn't put them in charge of the club U10s.
Always been the case. Some very poor coaches involved. Certainly over hyped.
Quote from: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 02:08:21 PMTheir coaching would need to improve. They had a very strong team on paper this year but St.Mary's blitzed them in the Semi final.
I thought it was as poor a final that I have seen in a while. The standard of decision making and shooting was really poor. Can't see St Ronans winning the Hogan.
Walter have you seen the stuff coming through St Pats from Dalton up. They aren't going away anytime soon.
Quote from: oakleaflad on March 21, 2018, 02:14:20 PMQuote from: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 02:08:21 PMTheir coaching would need to improve. They had a very strong team on paper this year but St.Mary's blitzed them in the Semi final.
I thought it was as poor a final that I have seen in a while. The standard of decision making and shooting was really poor. Can't see St Ronans winning the Hogan.
Walter have you seen the stuff coming through St Pats from Dalton up. They aren't going away anytime soon.
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.
Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
Quote from: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 02:08:21 PM
I thought it was as poor a final that I have seen in a while. The standard of decision making and shooting was really poor. Can't see St Ronans winning the Hogan.
Walter have you seen the stuff coming through St Pats from Dalton up. They aren't going away anytime soon.
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PMQuote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.
Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.
Quote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PMQuote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PMQuote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.
Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.
There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 03:10:58 PMQuote from: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 02:08:21 PM
I thought it was as poor a final that I have seen in a while. The standard of decision making and shooting was really poor. Can't see St Ronans winning the Hogan.
Walter have you seen the stuff coming through St Pats from Dalton up. They aren't going away anytime soon.
I knew you'd weigh in defending Maghera coaches Rawhide ;)
Surely structure (set up) and coaching go hand in hand!!!!
Magheras record from Dalton to Rannafast in unmatched this last 10 years. When tactics are brought into it at McRory they are found wanting. It cost them at least 1 Hogan also.
Quote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PMQuote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PMQuote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.
Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.
There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.
Quote from: trailer on March 21, 2018, 03:47:23 PMQuote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PMQuote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PMQuote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.
Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.
There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.
Don't think it is to be fair. Some very average coaches, who have a very average knowledge of the game involved in teams.
But whatever, congratulations to St Ronan's.
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 03:53:46 PMQuote from: trailer on March 21, 2018, 03:47:23 PMQuote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PMQuote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PMQuote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.
Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.
There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.
Don't think it is to be fair. Some very average coaches, who have a very average knowledge of the game involved in teams.
But whatever, congratulations to St Ronan's.
Its an inconvinient truth for too many who think it is the be all and end all. Dont worry the same is happening in Rugby, massive percentage never even go on to play for their clubs.
Preparing lads for the biggest game of their lives at 17/18.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 05:21:55 PM
You called me on it? I changed tact??
Think you are confusing me with NAG1? ::) ::) ::)
County should take priority over schools and lads shouldn't be forced to choose between school and club in winter, should their club be successful.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 04:38:45 PM
How dare anyone form an opinion different to that of the Keyser. :*
MacRory should be run off pre Christmas instead of eating into lads study time.
But nah frig their education, lets stick with tradition/over training and forcing lads to choose between schools and club/county!
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PMQuote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.
Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 03:53:46 PMQuote from: trailer on March 21, 2018, 03:47:23 PMQuote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PMQuote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PMQuote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.
Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.
There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.
Don't think it is to be fair. Some very average coaches, who have a very average knowledge of the game involved in teams.
But whatever, congratulations to St Ronan's.
Its an inconvinient truth for too many who think it is the be all and end all. Dont worry the same is happening in Rugby, massive percentage never even go on to play for their clubs.
Preparing lads for the biggest game of their lives at 17/18.
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 03:53:46 PMFking ballsQuote from: trailer on March 21, 2018, 03:47:23 PMQuote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PMQuote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PMQuote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.
Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.
There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.
Don't think it is to be fair. Some very average coaches, who have a very average knowledge of the game involved in teams.
But whatever, congratulations to St Ronan's.
Its an inconvinient truth for too many who think it is the be all and end all. Dont worry the same is happening in Rugby, massive percentage never even go on to play for their clubs.
Preparing lads for the biggest game of their lives at 17/18.
Quote from: thewobbler on March 21, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
Anyone who holds a grudge against MacRory football, I would propose, is most likely falling over beneath the weight of the chips on their shoulders. A professional axe grinder looking here, there, anywhere for a target.
It's a truly wonderful competition. It means the absolute world to those involved in it. It provides a viable athletic aspiration for thousands of younger pupils; and for more than a few it is sole reason why they will work for and pass GCSEs. It creates warmth and nostalgia, and by sheer force of nature brings alumni closer to their old school, and old school friends.
If you begrudge the MacRory Cup, I would genuinely hate to spend a day inside your head. It must be horrible in there.
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on March 21, 2018, 10:52:49 AMLurgan suffered this for years, St Paul's JHS produced some brilliant teams over the years but only going up to 5th year meant you'd a a load that went on to tech, trades etc with the rest going on to do A Levels at St Michael's. Likewise it remains to be seen if St Ronans will consistently be competing in the McRory, but you'd like to think the potential has certainly increased.
Possibly as it will give students more of a chance of going to University and entice them to stay on for A-Levels, previously the majority of students from St Brigids would have went into trades/ quit education at 16, very few would have went to St Pats. The amount of quality players form the Armagh area who miss out on McRory football because their education isn't t up to scratch is shocking.
Not saying they will be automatically be contesting McRory cups year in year out, but you would expect the standard to be raised now the the catch net of available players available has been widened.
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2018, 09:39:41 PMWas st Mary's CBGS not in it?
The macrory is a fantastic competition. The only thing that pains me about it is that no antrim schools are in it!
Great grounding for football in later years.
Quote from: general_lee on March 21, 2018, 09:41:41 PMWinners in 1986 I believeQuote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2018, 09:39:41 PMWas st Mary's CBGS not in it?
The macrory is a fantastic competition. The only thing that pains me about it is that no antrim schools are in it!
Great grounding for football in later years.
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 21, 2018, 09:10:04 PMQuote from: thewobbler on March 21, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
Anyone who holds a grudge against MacRory football, I would propose, is most likely falling over beneath the weight of the chips on their shoulders. A professional axe grinder looking here, there, anywhere for a target.
It's a truly wonderful competition. It means the absolute world to those involved in it. It provides a viable athletic aspiration for thousands of younger pupils; and for more than a few it is sole reason why they will work for and pass GCSEs. It creates warmth and nostalgia, and by sheer force of nature brings alumni closer to their old school, and old school friends.
If you begrudge the MacRory Cup, I would genuinely hate to spend a day inside your head. It must be horrible in there.
+1 I loved every minute of my time playing MacRory (even though we took a hefty beating from Maghera in my final year) and still love watching football at that level today. My school winning the competition for the first time ever when I was in first year is one of my favourite sporting memories and made me determined to play in the competition. Like Naka said, it was great for making friends for life not only from your own team but from other schools too. Friendships that continued into Uni and beyond. I'd say in the past few pages we can easily enough spot the lads who didn't make their MacRory panels.
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2018, 09:43:14 PM
They have been in it every now and then but not in a while.
They haven't been winning, or challenging , for mclarnon from what i have seen so it would be a step too far.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 22, 2018, 08:49:28 AMQuote from: BennyHarp on March 21, 2018, 09:10:04 PMQuote from: thewobbler on March 21, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
Anyone who holds a grudge against MacRory football, I would propose, is most likely falling over beneath the weight of the chips on their shoulders. A professional axe grinder looking here, there, anywhere for a target.
It's a truly wonderful competition. It means the absolute world to those involved in it. It provides a viable athletic aspiration for thousands of younger pupils; and for more than a few it is sole reason why they will work for and pass GCSEs. It creates warmth and nostalgia, and by sheer force of nature brings alumni closer to their old school, and old school friends.
If you begrudge the MacRory Cup, I would genuinely hate to spend a day inside your head. It must be horrible in there.
+1 I loved every minute of my time playing MacRory (even though we took a hefty beating from Maghera in my final year) and still love watching football at that level today. My school winning the competition for the first time ever when I was in first year is one of my favourite sporting memories and made me determined to play in the competition. Like Naka said, it was great for making friends for life not only from your own team but from other schools too. Friendships that continued into Uni and beyond. I'd say in the past few pages we can easily enough spot the lads who didn't make their MacRory panels.
Sure jeez Benny they still talk about how you made the MacRory panel years later!!
Quote from: bennydorano on March 21, 2018, 11:29:41 PM
MacRory football is fantastic, over 25 years since I left St Pats Armagh and I was fooking gutted when St Ronan's chinned us with a stoppage time goal in the semi. It was always serious stuff, I remember Br Ennis having us in training for the Rannafast Cup in mid August before school was back from Summer holidays.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 22, 2018, 07:44:04 PM
Have to say I loved schools football and can honestly say my only football regret is never winning a MacRory. We had the best team for 3-4 years when I was there and should have won at least one and a Hogan as well but we were outwitted by McGuckin!!!
Quote from: Orior on March 22, 2018, 10:07:33 PMQuote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 22, 2018, 07:44:04 PM
Have to say I loved schools football and can honestly say my only football regret is never winning a MacRory. We had the best team for 3-4 years when I was there and should have won at least one and a Hogan as well but we were outwitted by McGuckin!!!
It must have been tough in St Colmans shadow.
(Not that I ever made the team, but then they didn't want players who were God's gift to women)
Quote from: laceer on March 22, 2018, 11:32:18 PM
Best football playing time of my life. As close to being a professional footballer as many of us will get. The bond between 30 or so lads spending all day Monday to Friday together, training together, socialising etc was something else.
Quote from: laceer on March 22, 2018, 11:32:18 PM
Best football playing time of my life. As close to being a professional footballer as many of us will get. The bond between 30 or so lads spending all day Monday to Friday together, training together, socialising etc was something else.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2018, 11:23:31 PM
Is Brother Ennis still alive does anyone know? Always had plenty of time for him, lovely man.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2018, 11:23:31 PM
Is Brother Ennis still alive does anyone know? Always had plenty of time for him, lovely man.
Quote from: lurganblue on March 23, 2018, 09:30:28 AMQuote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2018, 11:23:31 PM
Is Brother Ennis still alive does anyone know? Always had plenty of time for him, lovely man.
Was wondering this exact thing when Jimmy Smyth was presenting the cup on Monday there. A real character.
Playing MacRory and being a part of that squad was a fantastic time. In St Pats, that was the pinnacle, no other sports mattered (or didnt seem to anyway). It's also great to be able to look back at that time and consider how far in the game some for your team mates progressed. It's a nonsense to say that this competition didnt develop them as players. (I dont know what went wrong with me :P )
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2018, 05:43:22 PM
Good stuff, he must be near 90 now?
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 28, 2018, 04:15:35 PMOut of interest how many of the Tyrone AI U17 winning team from last year is on that Tyrone school team?
HTC win by 9 after being 10 down with 14 minutes played! Ulster slaying the Kerry dragon well today ;)
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 28, 2018, 08:02:58 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 28, 2018, 04:15:35 PMOut of interest how many of the Tyrone AI U17 winning team from last year is on that Tyrone school team?
HTC win by 9 after being 10 down with 14 minutes played! Ulster slaying the Kerry dragon well today ;)
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 30, 2018, 06:01:36 PM
Good article although I'm not sure if I agree with its description of Lurgan as a town best known for soccer. There's about 5 GAA clubs in the town (4 football, 1 hurling), more in the neighbouring countryside. The GAA has always had a huge presence there.
Quote from: Therealdonald on March 30, 2018, 08:02:03 PMQuote from: Eamonnca1 on March 30, 2018, 06:01:36 PM
Good article although I'm not sure if I agree with its description of Lurgan as a town best known for soccer. There's about 5 GAA clubs in the town (4 football, 1 hurling), more in the neighbouring countryside. The GAA has always had a huge presence there.
It would be known as more of a soccer town though. Or at least GAA wouldn't have been the no.1 priority for a lot of young people. The tide seems to be turning and long may it continue.
Quote from: Throw ball on March 30, 2018, 10:27:41 PMAll of them have been in and out of Senior in the last 5 or 6 years. If Lurgan only had one club it would be some team
Over the last number of years I always felt Lurgan wad more of a soccer town. Only 1 of the 4 main clubs in the town plays senior football. In some respects though there may just be too many clubs for the area.
Quote from: JimStynes on March 30, 2018, 09:55:31 PM
I wouldn't see Lurgan as a soccer town. There is a massive interest in Gaelic football as far as I remember. Maybe in the 80s and before that it was different but in my lifetime it's always been about Gaelic football. Lots of boys play soccer too but gaelic is their first pick!
Quote from: tonto1888 on March 31, 2018, 02:09:00 PMQuote from: JimStynes on March 30, 2018, 09:55:31 PM
I wouldn't see Lurgan as a soccer town. There is a massive interest in Gaelic football as far as I remember. Maybe in the 80s and before that it was different but in my lifetime it's always been about Gaelic football. Lots of boys play soccer too but gaelic is their first pick!
There's a lot of soccer in Lurgan. Some GAA lads play it to keep fit until the GAA starts back but a lot wouldn't be seen near a GAA club. And that's just the catholic teams
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)
St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, Tattyreagh from a much smaller town?
Quote from: JimStynes on April 03, 2018, 01:31:02 PMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)
St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, Tattyreagh from a much smaller town?
They're not all in the town.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:28:18 PMQuote from: JimStynes on April 03, 2018, 01:31:02 PMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)
St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, Tattyreagh from a much smaller town?
They're not all in the town.
They all draw out of the same pool. St Enda's take players from all of the areas of all of the others, not by mutual consent and include players already with those clubs at all ages levels. They even took over the parish pitch when Drumragh finished their own ground and hadn't actually handed it back to the parish.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:28:18 PMQuote from: JimStynes on April 03, 2018, 01:31:02 PMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)
St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, Tattyreagh from a much smaller town?
They're not all in the town.
They all draw out of the same pool. St Enda's take players from all of the areas of all of the others, not by mutual consent and include players already with those clubs at all ages levels. They even took over the parish pitch when Drumragh finished their own ground and hadn't actually handed it back to the parish.
Quote from: oakleafgael on April 03, 2018, 05:32:48 PMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:28:18 PMQuote from: JimStynes on April 03, 2018, 01:31:02 PMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)
St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, Tattyreagh from a much smaller town?
They're not all in the town.
They all draw out of the same pool. St Enda's take players from all of the areas of all of the others, not by mutual consent and include players already with those clubs at all ages levels. They even took over the parish pitch when Drumragh finished their own ground and hadn't actually handed it back to the parish.
That's a gross exaggeration/simplification.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:35:04 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on April 03, 2018, 05:32:48 PMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:28:18 PMQuote from: JimStynes on April 03, 2018, 01:31:02 PMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)
St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, Tattyreagh from a much smaller town?
They're not all in the town.
They all draw out of the same pool. St Enda's take players from all of the areas of all of the others, not by mutual consent and include players already with those clubs at all ages levels. They even took over the parish pitch when Drumragh finished their own ground and hadn't actually handed it back to the parish.
That's a gross exaggeration/simplification.
Are you saying it's not true? If so which part?
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:58:48 PM
Taking only the senior team over the last 3/4 years of their recent successes built on the underage teams over the previous 6/8 years. So, the former Tattyreagh players don't count? The Killyclogher residents don't count? Drumragh parishioners don't count?
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on April 04, 2018, 02:21:40 AMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AM'ccording to the last census, Lurgan has just over 25k while Omagh is just under 20k. Certainly a difference, but I wouldn't say "much" smaller.Quote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)
St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, T****reagh from a much smaller town?
St. Enda's is effectively the "town" club and straddles the Drumragh and Cappagh parishes. Killyclogher is effectively a suburb of Omagh these days within the Cappagh parish. Drumragh's heartland has always been in Clanabogan/Tattysallagh but their time of being based at St. Pat's Park in the town helped drag a fair few "townies" in with them. T****reagh lies more in just being on the southern edge of Drumragh parish, Fintona's their nearest club while Eskra, Drumragh & Killyclogher's grounds would also be nearer them than St. Pat's Park or Healy Park. Those with long memories might also remember Mountfield which lies in Cappagh.
Speaking of St. Patrick's Park, I always presumed that the Drumragh/Cappagh boundary was bound by the Strule & Drumragh rivers, but if this was the case StPP would lie in Cappagh while AFAIK the land on which St. Patrick's Park lies on is owned by the Catholic Parish of Drumragh while Healy Park I'm 95% certain lies in Cappagh. Anyone know for sure?
Quote from: oakleafgael on April 03, 2018, 09:30:05 PMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:58:48 PM
Taking only the senior team over the last 3/4 years of their recent successes built on the underage teams over the previous 6/8 years. So, the former Tattyreagh players don't count? The Killyclogher residents don't count? Drumragh parishioners don't count?
What players from the heart of Tattyreagh play for Omagh Seniors? Killyclogher and Omagh town have effectively merged and family ties are more important as to where players play when considering those two. Are St Endas, Drumragh and Tattyreagh not all in Drumragh parish so I don't get the Drumragh parishioners reference? I have a full list of all club transfers in Tyrone over the last number of years, I wouldn't class any of the transfers between any of the clubs as particularly controversial.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 05, 2018, 01:18:12 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on April 03, 2018, 09:30:05 PMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:58:48 PM
Taking only the senior team over the last 3/4 years of their recent successes built on the underage teams over the previous 6/8 years. So, the former Tattyreagh players don't count? The Killyclogher residents don't count? Drumragh parishioners don't count?
What players from the heart of Tattyreagh play for Omagh Seniors? Killyclogher and Omagh town have effectively merged and family ties are more important as to where players play when considering those two. Are St Endas, Drumragh and Tattyreagh not all in Drumragh parish so I don't get the Drumragh parishioners reference? I have a full list of all club transfers in Tyrone over the last number of years, I wouldn't class any of the transfers between any of the clubs as particularly controversial.
Hugh Gallagher, who has captained the team to the Tyrone SFC, and his brothers moved to Omagh from Tattyreagh and that would have been thought to be an interesting move by such quality players.
St Enda's is in Cappagh parish as is Killyclogher.
Quote from: PMG1 on April 07, 2018, 01:33:20 PM
Is there coverage of today's two All Ireland school finals on anywhere?
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 07, 2018, 03:23:57 PMGreat defensive game also even when 15 points ahead at one stage they didn't want to give Nathys any time or room on the ball.
Well done Holy Trinity. Played a great kicking game.
Quote from: balladmaker on April 07, 2018, 04:18:51 PMOne of the worst kicked there now. Goal chance not taken before it.
As good a 45m kicking you'll see in Croke Park, three in a row for St. Ronan's.
Quote from: balladmaker on April 07, 2018, 04:17:14 PM
St. Ronan's are the stronger looking team so far.
Quote from: whitey on April 07, 2018, 05:23:53 PMStop the stereotyping. Westport inters,Mayo minors and U21s all won All Irelands recently.
Like all Mayo teams they couldnt put it away......3 chances at the end to level or even win and they missed all three, including a very kickable free
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 07, 2018, 05:31:07 PMQuote from: whitey on April 07, 2018, 05:23:53 PMStop the stereotyping. Westport inters,Mayo minors and U21s all won All Irelands recently.
Like all Mayo teams they couldnt put it away......3 chances at the end to level or even win and they missed all three, including a very kickable free
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 07, 2018, 05:39:55 PM
Only the second Armagh school to win the Hogan Cup and the first in 70 years, even if it was with a significant input from Antrim.
Quote from: balladmaker on April 07, 2018, 06:17:06 PM
Some result for St. Ronan's, just 3 years old and land their first Hogan Cup, congrats to all involved. They showed that they wanted it more, deserving winners.
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on April 08, 2018, 10:31:22 AM
Shane McConville's son Eoin from St Paul's. Saw him kick some of the finest points I'd ever seen in the Athletic Grounds in an U16 final a two years ago.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 08, 2018, 03:49:55 AM
Is young Smyth any relation to Jimmy?
Quote from: illdecide on April 08, 2018, 10:17:48 PMQuote from: Harold Disgracey on April 08, 2018, 10:31:22 AM
Shane McConville's son Eoin from St Paul's. Saw him kick some of the finest points I'd ever seen in the Athletic Grounds in an U16 final a two years ago.
He kicked a belter today v Clans in Davitt Pk
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 08, 2018, 03:49:55 AM
Is young Smyth any relation to Jimmy?
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school
Quote from: JimStynes on April 09, 2018, 10:17:32 AM
Will the intake at Lower and Upper sixth really change that much though?
Quote from: tyroneman on April 09, 2018, 01:25:01 PMQuote from: JimStynes on April 09, 2018, 10:17:32 AM
Will the intake at Lower and Upper sixth really change that much though?
Hard to tell really.
Of the 3 schools that amalgamated:
- 1 was all girl (so wouldn't factor into the MacRory team anyway)
- 1 (St Pauls) had no pupils at MacRory age - they all had to transfer after GCSE
- 1 was St Michaels, which would have had all the MacRory age pupils - including some transfers from St Pauls
So it wasn't like the St Ronans amalgamation suddenly meant that had a massive increase in MacRory age players to pick from.
Now with SR being all ability - you might well retain pupils who would have previously left St Pauls after GCSE and not gone to St Michaels, however you will also always have fellas who leave after GCSE anyway and mix in parents who want thier children to have a grammar education and will send them to Newry etc instead (which is already happening).
So, possibly a small increase in MacRory eligible players, but not as big as people might think.....
Quote from: Don Johnson on April 09, 2018, 05:15:13 PM
Can admin change the thread title to 'Come and have a chat with Jim about St Ronans' please?
Quote from: Don Johnson on April 09, 2018, 05:15:13 PM
Can admin change the thread title to 'Come and have a chat with Jim about St Ronans' please?
Quote from: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:01:29 AMQuote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school
Half of whom are females, no doubt. So a boys school with 90 or 100 in one year might still be competitive.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 09, 2018, 07:30:34 PMQuote from: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:01:29 AMQuote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school
Half of whom are females, no doubt. So a boys school with 90 or 100 in one year might still be competitive.
Two schools in Newry have over 100 in each year group and have not been exactly competitive in recent years.
Ulster Colleges football is being affected like the Sigerson was many years ago, when it was opened to all third level colleges, as it has been opened to all schools with the amalgamation/demise of the Vocational Schools. Almost any school can progress up through the grades if it has sufficient numbers with the talent and drive to compete. Two of the big and formerly Vocational schools, Holy Trinity in Cookstown and St Ciaran's Ballygawley are now making the move against the traditional colleges. St Ronan's is another example of how a school not previously known as a top footballing school can make it to the top.
Quote from: ardchieftain on April 08, 2018, 11:16:38 PM
Young Smith is Sarsfields. Watched him from the opposition dugout many times. The lad doesn't now how good he is.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 09, 2018, 07:59:29 PMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 09, 2018, 07:30:34 PMQuote from: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:01:29 AMQuote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school
Half of whom are females, no doubt. So a boys school with 90 or 100 in one year might still be competitive.
Two schools in Newry have over 100 in each year group and have not been exactly competitive in recent years.
Ulster Colleges football is being affected like the Sigerson was many years ago, when it was opened to all third level colleges, as it has been opened to all schools with the amalgamation/demise of the Vocational Schools. Almost any school can progress up through the grades if it has sufficient numbers with the talent and drive to compete. Two of the big and formerly Vocational schools, Holy Trinity in Cookstown and St Ciaran's Ballygawley are now making the move against the traditional colleges. St Ronan's is another example of how a school not previously known as a top footballing school can make it to the top.
Not sure if I'd describe St Ronan's as a school not previously known for football. Its predecessor, St Michael's, had a strong football tradition and won the MacLarnon Cup 4 times.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 09, 2018, 07:59:29 PMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 09, 2018, 07:30:34 PMQuote from: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:01:29 AMQuote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school
Half of whom are females, no doubt. So a boys school with 90 or 100 in one year might still be competitive.
Two schools in Newry have over 100 in each year group and have not been exactly competitive in recent years.
Ulster Colleges football is being affected like the Sigerson was many years ago, when it was opened to all third level colleges, as it has been opened to all schools with the amalgamation/demise of the Vocational Schools. Almost any school can progress up through the grades if it has sufficient numbers with the talent and drive to compete. Two of the big and formerly Vocational schools, Holy Trinity in Cookstown and St Ciaran's Ballygawley are now making the move against the traditional colleges. St Ronan's is another example of how a school not previously known as a top footballing school can make it to the top.
Not sure if I'd describe St Ronan's as a school not previously known for football. Its predecessor, St Michael's, had a strong football tradition and won the MacLarnon Cup 4 times.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 10, 2018, 05:26:28 PMThat Greenpark CBS (Or Armagh CBS) team were unlucky to get chinned by eventual winners St Mary's CBS in the Mac Rory semi the next year.Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 09, 2018, 07:59:29 PMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 09, 2018, 07:30:34 PMQuote from: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:01:29 AMQuote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school
Half of whom are females, no doubt. So a boys school with 90 or 100 in one year might still be competitive.
Two schools in Newry have over 100 in each year group and have not been exactly competitive in recent years.
Ulster Colleges football is being affected like the Sigerson was many years ago, when it was opened to all third level colleges, as it has been opened to all schools with the amalgamation/demise of the Vocational Schools. Almost any school can progress up through the grades if it has sufficient numbers with the talent and drive to compete. Two of the big and formerly Vocational schools, Holy Trinity in Cookstown and St Ciaran's Ballygawley are now making the move against the traditional colleges. St Ronan's is another example of how a school not previously known as a top footballing school can make it to the top.
Not sure if I'd describe St Ronan's as a school not previously known for football. Its predecessor, St Michael's, had a strong football tradition and won the MacLarnon Cup 4 times.
Even Greenpark CBS won the MacLarnon Cup. There is a major step up to win a MacRory and Hogan and St Ronan's made the leap when the conditions were right and the talent became available with great work in the local clubs.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on April 11, 2018, 03:00:31 PMQuote from: Owen Brannigan on April 09, 2018, 07:30:34 PMYou can add Bessbrook & Castlewellan to that, and to a lesser extent Virginia College in Cavan though they've yet to make an "A" grade breakthrough as far as I know. Ballygawley have a knack of being able to punch well above their weight on a consistent basis - it's very much a "rural" school with a student demographic that is pretty much all "rural" where except those living in Ballygawley all students travel then on board buses, it has a roll number of around 700-750, being co-ed around half of that will be girls and being a non-selective school, a significant amount of their students that do their GCSE's in Year 12 won't stay on to Year 13 there. At a rough guess they have probably around 35-40 boys or so each in Years 13 & 14 which is small compared to the more seasoned MacRory Cup competitors. In saying that I see at lower age levels this year they've been competing at "C" level so maybe the recent pupil intake there isn't as strong in terms of football ability that it has been recently.Quote from: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:01:29 AMQuote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school
Half of whom are females, no doubt. So a boys school with 90 or 100 in one year might still be competitive.
Two schools in Newry have over 100 in each year group and have not been exactly competitive in recent years.
Ulster Colleges football is being affected like the Sigerson was many years ago, when it was opened to all third level colleges, as it has been opened to all schools with the amalgamation/demise of the Vocational Schools. Almost any school can progress up through the grades if it has sufficient numbers with the talent and drive to compete. Two of the big and formerly Vocational schools, Holy Trinity in Cookstown and St Ciaran's Ballygawley are now making the move against the traditional colleges. St Ronan's is another example of how a school not previously known as a top footballing school can make it to the top.
Was the past MacRory Cup the first one in a very long time where there was no Donegal school taking part? St. Eunan's were playing in MacLaron this year instead while a lot of other post-primary Donegal schools were playing in the Markey Cup as well (mental note - I think St. Eunan's were also playing in the MacLaron cup a few years ago as well? If so that would answer my own question!). I think every other Ulster county had at least one school competing in the MacRory this year. I'd say in due course with the changes not only in schools GAA competition in Ulster but also within the "northern six" with regards to school closures/amalgamations, post-16 provisions etc. things will become interesting. Had the schools competitions been as one say 20-30 years ago, a few FE colleges in the north might have been able to give the MacLaron or even occasionally the MacRory a decent lash - unlikely that'll happen in the near future though.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on April 11, 2018, 04:43:33 PMQuote from: Kickham csc on April 11, 2018, 04:25:06 PMSome would consider Maghera the first to make the jump, and if you ready the recent MacRory Cup history book that was launched a couple of years ago, the Ulster Council weren't too welcoming to MagheraIn what year did Maghera join the Ulster Colleges set up? From memory, I don't recall them ever winning any Ulster titles at Vocational Schools level whereas St. Pius X in Magherafelt had a string of VS success in the late 70's & early 80's which also powered the Derry county team to several All-Ireland titles before dropping off the radar - presumably they joined the colleges setup at some point in the 80's?
Bessbrook seemed to be lying in the football doldrums for quite some time before they reached a McDevitt (U14) final in 2004 I think. They were definitely defeated that day by Dean Maguirc Carrickmore. They eventually won an Ulster VS title, reached a Markey Cup semi final one year as well before deciding to throw their lot in with the colleges set up as they thought they had the talent coming through to give the MacRory cup a fair go and they certainly did, winning a McCormick Cup and almost a MacRory Cup not long after. While Bessbrook does have an advantage in its sheer student numbers it shows that if you have the talent and facilities available at your disposal to make a go of it and add a bit of belief, you can make a go of it. And to a large extent that's what St. Ronan's have achieved with.
Quote from: Kickham csc on April 12, 2018, 09:17:46 AMQuote from: Fionntamhnach on April 11, 2018, 04:43:33 PMQuote from: Kickham csc on April 11, 2018, 04:25:06 PMSome would consider Maghera the first to make the jump, and if you ready the recent MacRory Cup history book that was launched a couple of years ago, the Ulster Council weren't too welcoming to MagheraIn what year did Maghera join the Ulster Colleges set up? From memory, I don't recall them ever winning any Ulster titles at Vocational Schools level whereas St. Pius X in Magherafelt had a string of VS success in the late 70's & early 80's which also powered the Derry county team to several All-Ireland titles before dropping off the radar - presumably they joined the colleges setup at some point in the 80's?
Bessbrook seemed to be lying in the football doldrums for quite some time before they reached a McDevitt (U14) final in 2004 I think. They were definitely defeated that day by Dean Maguirc Carrickmore. They eventually won an Ulster VS title, reached a Markey Cup semi final one year as well before deciding to throw their lot in with the colleges set up as they thought they had the talent coming through to give the MacRory cup a fair go and they certainly did, winning a McCormick Cup and almost a MacRory Cup not long after. While Bessbrook does have an advantage in its sheer student numbers it shows that if you have the talent and facilities available at your disposal to make a go of it and add a bit of belief, you can make a go of it. And to a large extent that's what St. Ronan's have achieved with.
I understand that when St. Pat's were formed in the 60's they applied to play in the Colleges competitions, but got major pushback from the council who believed, that as the school was not a grammar school, they should have been playing in VS football. They had to get written approval from VS to play in the colleges but the colleges still resisted, but St. Pat's won out in the end.
I know from my time there, there was an element of them 'v' us, which help fuel our determination to succeed.
The school structure is the same as St Ronan's, St Paul's, ie it is a non selective college that at the time took both people who got A, M and F in the 11+
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 14, 2018, 09:37:20 AM
From my knowledge the local catchment around Maghera (i.e 5-6 miles) don't have to sit the 11+ and are graded by P7 teachers and then an early exam in 1st year. It's those outside the area that have to pass to get in, with the caveat of an older brother/sister at the school being in your favour or you are a top footballer lol.
Each year group has 4 grammar stream classes and 4 non grammar. Few years back mind you. Maybe different now.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 14, 2018, 10:51:42 AMYep Damian Barton, Mickey Berryman Ronan McCuaker Marty Bradley amongst others on those StPius teams from memory
St pius magherafelt always used to produce great players and good school teams but until recent years had only went up to 5th yr! There was a time in the late 70's early 80's when they stayed to 18 that they won 3 VS cups in a row and were probably better than the corresponding maccrory cup winners at the time!
Quote from: Targetman on November 30, 2018, 10:50:01 PM
Apparently a player was air lifted to hospital during a Mac Rory cup game today between Cavan and Carrickmacross, anyone hear of this?
Quote from: Dire Ear on December 06, 2018, 02:00:39 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-46469758
Gardaí (Irish police) have said they have received a report of an alleged assault on a boy following an incident during a Ulster Schools GAA match
Quote from: bennydorano on February 27, 2019, 09:22:03 PM
St Pats Armagh v Omagh CBS abandoned at ht due to fog with Armagh leading 1.7 to 0.4, replay Friday night.
Full game replay or just 2nd half, whats the regulations?
Quote from: bennydorano on February 27, 2019, 09:42:15 PM
Very deflating situation for Armagh, especially as underdogs. :-\
Quote from: oakleafgael on February 27, 2019, 09:54:17 PMQuote from: bennydorano on February 27, 2019, 09:42:15 PM
Very deflating situation for Armagh, especially as underdogs. :-\
They should still be thanking their lucky stars after the farce on Saturday.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 01, 2019, 07:53:27 PM
Who manages the abbey cbs brock cup team? Seen video highlights of a game against st pat maghera. Final score 2.1 abbey played 15 men inside their 45 for 50mibs. Damn disgrace
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 01, 2019, 07:53:27 PMJody Gormley being named on Twitter. Saw it. It looked atrocious.
Who manages the abbey cbs brock cup team? Seen video highlights of a game against st pat maghera. Final score 2.1 abbey played 15 men inside their 45 for 50mibs. Damn disgrace
Quote from: SCFC on March 01, 2019, 08:40:45 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on March 01, 2019, 07:53:27 PMJody Gormley being named on Twitter. Saw it. It looked atrocious.
Who manages the abbey cbs brock cup team? Seen video highlights of a game against st pat maghera. Final score 2.1 abbey played 15 men inside their 45 for 50mibs. Damn disgrace
Quote from: moysider on March 01, 2019, 09:02:18 PMQuote from: SCFC on March 01, 2019, 08:40:45 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on March 01, 2019, 07:53:27 PMJody Gormley being named on Twitter. Saw it. It looked atrocious.
Who manages the abbey cbs brock cup team? Seen video highlights of a game against st pat maghera. Final score 2.1 abbey played 15 men inside their 45 for 50mibs. Damn disgrace
Agree. I think both teams to blame. Surely Maghera should have pressed up on them and try to turn it over instead of sitting back.
Quote from: hardstation on March 01, 2019, 09:07:15 PMQuote from: moysider on March 01, 2019, 09:02:18 PMAnd fall right into their trap? They were winning and weren't having a glove put on them in their own half. No point in expending energy running into a 15 man blanket.Quote from: SCFC on March 01, 2019, 08:40:45 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on March 01, 2019, 07:53:27 PMJody Gormley being named on Twitter. Saw it. It looked atrocious.
Who manages the abbey cbs brock cup team? Seen video highlights of a game against st pat maghera. Final score 2.1 abbey played 15 men inside their 45 for 50mibs. Damn disgrace
Agree. I think both teams to blame. Surely Maghera should have pressed up on them and try to turn it over instead of sitting back.
Whoever is over that Abbey team should piss off and forget about the game of football. He is not needed nor wanted. A total idiot.
Quote from: Targetman on March 01, 2019, 09:24:50 PM
Jody Gormley is head of PE at the Abbey, the manager of the Brock team is Dan Gordon ex Down player, I wonder what Loughinisland's tactics will be this season!!
Quote from: Targetman on March 01, 2019, 09:24:50 PM
Jody Gormley is head of PE at the Abbey, the manager of the Brock team is Dan Gordon ex Down player, I wonder what Loughinisland's tactics will be this season!!
Quote from: hardstation on March 01, 2019, 09:18:17 PM
Being honest, I've never seen a game at any level where one team has refused to cross their 45 for 50 minutes. It's not just bad that it is kids, it's much worse than I've ever seen.
Quote from: rrhf on March 02, 2019, 02:12:41 AM
The Down Way...
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 02, 2019, 07:12:46 AM
Half that team will be Armagh lads
Quote from: Smurfy123 on March 02, 2019, 10:03:30 AM
Get out where broken? Relieved of all coaching duties obviously not sacked?
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 02, 2019, 08:58:04 AMTruthfully it's shocking how our abbey teams are presently set upQuote from: DuffleKing on March 02, 2019, 07:12:46 AM
Half that team will be Armagh lads
Doing what they are told. It's a f**king disgrace. Simple as that. I am proud of my time playing schools football with the Abbey. We played great football, honest and hard. This shite is a stigma on the game and whoever coached it needs kicked in the hole and told to get out. Disgraceful
Quote from: lurganblue on March 01, 2019, 01:07:57 PMQuote from: oakleafgael on February 27, 2019, 09:54:17 PMQuote from: bennydorano on February 27, 2019, 09:42:15 PM
Very deflating situation for Armagh, especially as underdogs. :-\
They should still be thanking their lucky stars after the farce on Saturday.
What went on?
Quote from: Sportacus on March 02, 2019, 08:58:18 PM
Tomás O'Se tweeted recently saying he didn't admire Fermanagh 's style of play but you have to admire them for getting the results they get. I hate that attitude, couldn't agree with it at all - Rory Gallagher, and Jim McGuinness before him, and others, have shown coaches a template, and it's so sad to see it creeping into colleges football. My god, I'm sure plenty of you remember the MacRory Final in 89. How did we get to this.
Quote from: Sportacus on March 02, 2019, 09:16:38 PM
Ah right, football's in great shape then. Lowest scoring team in Division 2, there's a surprise.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 02, 2019, 09:46:27 PM
Has Carlow and Leitrim not smaller picks
Quote from: Sportacus on March 02, 2019, 09:16:38 PM
Ah right, football's in great shape then. Lowest scoring team in Division 2, there's a surprise.
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 02, 2019, 09:49:33 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on March 02, 2019, 09:46:27 PM
Has Carlow and Leitrim not smaller picks
Smaller populations but more playing.
Quote from: armaghniac on March 02, 2019, 11:09:25 PMQuote from: mrdeeds on March 02, 2019, 09:49:33 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on March 02, 2019, 09:46:27 PM
Has Carlow and Leitrim not smaller picks
Smaller populations but more playing.
feck all DUP in Carlow and very few in Leitrim.
Quote from: armaghniac on March 02, 2019, 11:09:25 PMLeitrim as a county is split in twoQuote from: mrdeeds on March 02, 2019, 09:49:33 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on March 02, 2019, 09:46:27 PM
Has Carlow and Leitrim not smaller picks
Smaller populations but more playing.
feck all DUP in Carlow and very few in Leitrim.
Quote from: Seany on March 03, 2019, 09:38:37 AM
Pardon my possible ignorance on this, but is there not a SIgerson-like cynicism beginning to creep into schools football? A few of the Armagh lads were originally at the Academy, but 'left after GCSE' to go to St. Pat's. This seems to be a well worn path for good players who suddenly want to pursue a post 16 pathway that only the Armagh school can provide. ALso - St. Michael's - do they not just Hoover up all the decent players form all the Fermanagh schools around it who don't offer A Level? Don't think the Newry schools do it, hence their lack of success in recent years. But I could be wrong.
Quote from: Seany on March 03, 2019, 09:38:37 AM
Pardon my possible ignorance on this, but is there not a SIgerson-like cynicism beginning to creep into schools football? A few of the Armagh lads were originally at the Academy, but 'left after GCSE' to go to St. Pat's. This seems to be a well worn path for good players who suddenly want to pursue a post 16 pathway that only the Armagh school can provide. ALso - St. Michael's - do they not just Hoover up all the decent players form all the Fermanagh schools around it who don't offer A Level? Don't think the Newry schools do it, hence their lack of success in recent years. But I could be wrong.
Quote from: omaghjoe on March 05, 2019, 02:21:54 AMQuote from: Seany on March 03, 2019, 09:38:37 AM
Pardon my possible ignorance on this, but is there not a SIgerson-like cynicism beginning to creep into schools football? A few of the Armagh lads were originally at the Academy, but 'left after GCSE' to go to St. Pat's. This seems to be a well worn path for good players who suddenly want to pursue a post 16 pathway that only the Armagh school can provide. ALso - St. Michael's - do they not just Hoover up all the decent players form all the Fermanagh schools around it who don't offer A Level? Don't think the Newry schools do it, hence their lack of success in recent years. But I could be wrong.
Wouldnt blame decent Aramgh footballer for leaving the Academy. I know one fella who was an Armagh minor but sat on the bench for the Academy MacRory team, also think it was the same story with Brendan Donaghy but could stand corrected
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 05, 2019, 12:21:47 AMHow long has Kilcoo's Conor Laverty been coaching the Mac Rory panel?
Until very recently, there was little post-16 provisions in schools in Fermanagh outside of Enniskillen. Even today I think the only school in the county outside of Enniskillen offering anything beyond GCSEs is St. Kevin's in Lisnaskea, and that's only a relatively new school formed by the merger of St. Eugene's Roslea & St. Comghall's Lisnaskea and is based on the old St. Comghall's site - and it's still a relatively small school for student numbers. St Aidan's Derrylin & St. Mary's Brollagh don't have anything post-16 and I don't think St. Mary's Irvinestown have a six form at present either. Outside of the Catholic schools system, all post-primary schools are based in Enniskillen as well. Most students living in the county go to school or FE college in it - very few if any in the Catholic sector attend schools in Tyrone though the most likely would be those around Lack, Kesh & Ederney where Omagh is nearly as close as Enniskillen - though when I was at St. John's Dromore there was an Irvinestown girl in my class and I know a couple of boys from Brookeborough who went to St. Ciaran's Ballygawley. In the controlled sector some attend Fivemiletown High School. The Further Education sector is a little different as some courses may not be available at SWC's Enniskillen campus but are at Omagh or even Dungannon. In my younger years there was very little provision for those wanting to do/study engineering in the old Fermanagh College so anyone in the county interested in such a route after GCSEs going towards third-level either did A-Levels in Enniskillen or went to do BTEC National/Level 3 in Omagh - that changed a few years ago and Enniskillen now offers a much broader engineering pathway for post-GCSE students.
Quote from: rory on March 13, 2019, 04:13:05 PM
I see the U16.5 All Ireland Final involving St Colmans is down to be played at the National GAA Centre in Abbotstown. Never been there but a quick search shows that there isn't much of a stand at it (maybe only 200 seats) and no banking around the pitch. I know the game might only draw 6 or 700 people, but it seems like a strange venue. Spectators will be stretched out around the fence and it won't have the atmosphere you would associate with a colleges game.
Quote from: rory on March 13, 2019, 04:13:05 PM
I see the U16.5 All Ireland Final involving St Colmans is down to be played at the National GAA Centre in Abbotstown. Never been there but a quick search shows that there isn't much of a stand at it (maybe only 200 seats) and no banking around the pitch. I know the game might only draw 6 or 700 people, but it seems like a strange venue. Spectators will be stretched out around the fence and it won't have the atmosphere you would associate with a colleges game.
Quote from: banker on March 15, 2019, 12:24:43 PMQuote from: rory on March 13, 2019, 04:13:05 PM
I see the U16.5 All Ireland Final involving St Colmans is down to be played at the National GAA Centre in Abbotstown. Never been there but a quick search shows that there isn't much of a stand at it (maybe only 200 seats) and no banking around the pitch. I know the game might only draw 6 or 700 people, but it seems like a strange venue. Spectators will be stretched out around the fence and it won't have the atmosphere you would associate with a colleges game.
Hogan Cup semi-final was played there last year. Pretty sure it will work ok
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 18, 2019, 01:51:37 PM
Barry Cassidy has had a busy 24 hours
Quote from: lenny on March 18, 2019, 02:20:30 PMQuote from: Hoof Hearted on March 18, 2019, 01:51:37 PM
Barry Cassidy has had a busy 24 hours
The 2 penalty decisions were terrible.
Quote from: David McKeown on March 18, 2019, 02:21:55 PMFunny I thought the first one was a penalty and the second one wasn't.Quote from: lenny on March 18, 2019, 02:20:30 PMQuote from: Hoof Hearted on March 18, 2019, 01:51:37 PM
Barry Cassidy has had a busy 24 hours
The 2 penalty decisions were terrible.
Second one was a stone wall penalty for me. Far too many referees don't give it for me.
Quote from: David McKeown on March 18, 2019, 02:25:10 PMThought the ball was kicked at his legs as he came out myself.
Keeper dives out feet first at a player shooting. It's the very definition of a foot block.
Quote from: giveherlong on March 15, 2019, 12:38:37 PMMarch 27th for the semi final and April 6th for the final.
Any dates for hogan cup semi finals and final?
Quote from: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 07:28:20 PM
Dom not afraid to pay others you mean to do the work!! Laverty brought in on big money to take the team. Got the rewards but not a great path for schools to have to take. Money should be invested in the preserving the teaching staff as opposed to shelling out money to get others to come in and take the the teams.
Quote from: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 10:12:28 PMPretty sure Magherafelt won the MacRory a couple of years ago and they had your fella Devlin from Ballinderry in training them. As far as I know he was the 1st coach employed by a school to help improve their football at all levels
Sadly mistaken ask anyone in the know and they'll tell you laverty Donnelly county board coaches have done all the training and coaching and dom looks after the selection side of things. Smart on his end but paying coaches for schools is a bad precedent to have started IMO
Quote from: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 10:12:28 PM
Sadly mistaken ask anyone in the know and they'll tell you laverty Donnelly county board coaches have done all the training and coaching and dom looks after the selection side of things. Smart on his end but paying coaches for schools is a bad precedent to have started IMO
Quote from: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 10:12:28 PM
Sadly mistaken ask anyone in the know and they'll tell you laverty Donnelly county board coaches have done all the training and coaching and dom looks after the selection side of things. Smart on his end but paying coaches for schools is a bad precedent to have started IMO
Quote from: FermGael on March 18, 2019, 10:56:19 PMThe Derry City is led by teachers and paid gaelic games officer from council.Quote from: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 10:12:28 PM
Sadly mistaken ask anyone in the know and they'll tell you laverty Donnelly county board coaches have done all the training and coaching and dom looks after the selection side of things. Smart on his end but paying coaches for schools is a bad precedent to have started IMO
Coaches have been paid to go into primary schools for years.
The days of teachers taking teams solo is well and truly over.
It's getting harder and harder to get teachers to take teams for many various reasons especially at the secondary level.
Monaghan and Cavan have been sending their county development coaches into secondary schools for a number of years now and it's seen an increase in schools teams winning Ulster schools titles.
Derry have obviously being following the same model with Magherafelt and I would assume with the Derry city team that played in the MacLarnon final today. Kerry county board have also been doing it for years .
Fermanagh I assume send the county underage coaches into St Michaels as these are funded by Club Eirne and St Michaels is by far the most important school in terms of county development.
Non-issue
Quote from: snoopdog on March 30, 2019, 05:38:02 PMAn acquaintance who was at this match said the anti Northern shit coming from the fans of their opponents was horrendous and even involved the playing of GSTQ over a speaker system. The Ref had to stop the match at one stage and ask stewards to intervene. There is no place for this nonsense in sport and especially at school sports.
St Colmans win the Paul Mcgirr cup.
Quote from: maccer on April 01, 2019, 10:36:22 AMPretty sure he is telling the truth, no reason to lie.
Never happened
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 01, 2019, 09:34:35 AMQuote from: snoopdog on March 30, 2019, 05:38:02 PMAn acquaintance who was at this match said the anti Northern shit coming from the fans of their opponents was horrendous and even involved the playing of GSTQ over a speaker system. The Ref had to stop the match at one stage and ask stewards to intervene. There is no place for this nonsense in sport and especially at school sports.
St Colmans win the Paul Mcgirr cup.
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 01, 2019, 02:13:10 PMQuote from: maccer on April 01, 2019, 10:36:22 AMPretty sure he is telling the truth, no reason to lie.
Never happened
Quote from: Godsown on April 06, 2019, 09:07:05 PMYou're new here aren't you?
Can people not just congratulate St Michaels on a great achievement.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 06, 2019, 08:24:57 PM
Lesser school? how many boys in their sixth and upper sixth Yr groups
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on April 08, 2019, 06:45:48 PMDecent size then ;)
Maith thú Naomh Mícheál.
For the record, they've an enrolment of 670 boys at present, according to the EA website.
Quote from: general_lee on November 14, 2019, 07:12:33 PM
See two amalgamations in the MacRory this year. One (Cathaoir Doire) got tanked earlier by St Macartans and another (Inis Eoghain) is getting hammered by SPAD right this minute. Begs the question what is the point?
Quote from: J70 on November 25, 2019, 03:54:08 PM
WTF were Inis Eoghain even thinking entering that competition?
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 25, 2019, 04:01:40 PMQuote from: J70 on November 25, 2019, 03:54:08 PM
WTF were Inis Eoghain even thinking entering that competition?
Derry City Colleges and Inis Eoghain were not allowed to stay McLarnon due to amalgamation rule. They are both that standard. The Derry City project will probably end this year. College back to B. Lumen C/D, the rest not sure.
Most of the DCC mcRory team are from the college this year, they scrapped past Loreto by 1 point in group stages of McLarnon. This was aimed at likes of Ben McCarron etc from lumen(so that he could get some higher standard football). In itself a noble aim, but the footballers are not there to compete at highest level.
Quote from: general_lee on November 27, 2019, 05:50:01 PM
Realistically how many players is that going to impact on?
Quote from: lenny on November 27, 2019, 05:53:51 PMQuote from: general_lee on November 27, 2019, 05:50:01 PM
Realistically how many players is that going to impact on?
A lot I'd say.
Quote from: redzone on February 19, 2020, 09:36:10 PMWas at the omagh v Armagh game today, atrocious conditions, should never have been played. Omagh by far the better team but tactics once again very questionable. Big McGleenan excellent for Armagh, virtually carried them but Omagh left same man on him the whole second half which was idiotic. Some bad decisions up front and a very poor goalkeeping mistake cost them also, but to be honest I can't see either of them being real contenders.
Anyone at any of the 1/4 games.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 26, 2020, 11:28:44 AM
Is the McRory final going ahead this year?
Quote from: marty34 on September 26, 2020, 11:36:54 AMQuote from: Walter Cronc on September 26, 2020, 11:28:44 AM
Is the McRory final going ahead this year?
Good question.
I thought, when lock down came in, that they talked about playing it in September.
It'll hardly be played now.
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 29, 2020, 03:56:48 PM
Very sore dose for the young lads involved.
(https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1)
https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2020, 12:28:44 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on September 29, 2020, 03:56:48 PM
Very sore dose for the young lads involved.
(https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1)
https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1
That's just madness! Kids are at school training away in their bubbles and how much would it be to the schools to arrange testing leading up to these very important games in their young lives?!!!
My daughter is training away with school, I dropped her off at Jstown last night and there was a senior hockey game on one pitch a rugby game on the other and I presume the Antrim hurlers were training away on the top pitch!
Quote from: marty34 on September 30, 2020, 04:10:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2020, 12:28:44 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on September 29, 2020, 03:56:48 PM
Very sore dose for the young lads involved.
(https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1)
https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1
That's just madness! Kids are at school training away in their bubbles and how much would it be to the schools to arrange testing leading up to these very important games in their young lives?!!!
My daughter is training away with school, I dropped her off at Jstown last night and there was a senior hockey game on one pitch a rugby game on the other and I presume the Antrim hurlers were training away on the top pitch!
But are most of these players not at university now?
Quote from: hardstation on September 30, 2020, 09:17:49 PM
I'm not sure eligibility is his point. Have these school teams continued to train? Were lads at university across England, Scotland etc expected to fly back in the middle of a pandemic to play these games, for schools they no longer go to?
Was there really appetite for this? I know it's a big deal for young lads but surely the whole taste had gone off it long ago.
However, had Ulster Colleges sold tickets for it....?
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 03, 2021, 01:45:41 PM
ARe there any games coming up in football competitions, where can you find fixtures?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2021, 01:59:37 PMQuote from: Truth hurts on November 03, 2021, 01:45:41 PM
ARe there any games coming up in football competitions, where can you find fixtures?
Think there is a small period of time, certainly for the uni's, I've done a few games recently at UUJ. the freshers were put out by DCU the other night.
Would only imagine the schools are doing the same, cramming it in, games to be played to finish extra time of ten minutes then penalties, just in case anyone is unsure ;)
Quote from: johnnycool on November 03, 2021, 03:23:08 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2021, 01:59:37 PMQuote from: Truth hurts on November 03, 2021, 01:45:41 PM
ARe there any games coming up in football competitions, where can you find fixtures?
Think there is a small period of time, certainly for the uni's, I've done a few games recently at UUJ. the freshers were put out by DCU the other night.
Would only imagine the schools are doing the same, cramming it in, games to be played to finish extra time of ten minutes then penalties, just in case anyone is unsure ;)
Must be a few Mageean Cup Hurling games on this week.. Struggling to get an U17 team together for tonight.
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 03, 2021, 04:12:57 PMQuote from: johnnycool on November 03, 2021, 03:23:08 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2021, 01:59:37 PMQuote from: Truth hurts on November 03, 2021, 01:45:41 PM
ARe there any games coming up in football competitions, where can you find fixtures?
Think there is a small period of time, certainly for the uni's, I've done a few games recently at UUJ. the freshers were put out by DCU the other night.
Would only imagine the schools are doing the same, cramming it in, games to be played to finish extra time of ten minutes then penalties, just in case anyone is unsure ;)
Must be a few Mageean Cup Hurling games on this week.. Struggling to get an U17 team together for tonight.
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ARe there any games coming up in football competitions, where can you find fixtures?
Think there is a small period of time, certainly for the uni's, I've done a few games recently at UUJ. the freshers were put out by DCU the other night.
Would only imagine the schools are doing the same, cramming it in, games to be played to finish extra time of ten minutes then penalties, just in case anyone is unsure ;)
Must be a few Mageean Cup Hurling games on this week.. Struggling to get an U17 team together for tonight.
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Red High had it tight with a win over St Pats Maghera. They've Knock up next and we've lads on both teams who won't go easy on each other...
Quote from: Estimator on February 13, 2022, 02:38:42 PM
Good start from the Convent in the MacRory Final.
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 13, 2022, 04:26:23 PMQuote from: Estimator on February 13, 2022, 02:38:42 PM
Good start from the Convent in the MacRory Final.
Was the difference on the end, that great start
Some fine players there
Quote from: OakLeaf on February 13, 2022, 05:03:53 PM
Very strong side. McEvoy won't be long until he's at no. 6 for Doire.
Quote from: OakLeaf on February 13, 2022, 05:03:53 PM
Very strong side. McEvoy won't be long until he's at no. 6 for Doire.
Quote from: Silver hill on February 15, 2022, 10:15:56 PMJust isn't true, but do ellaborate please.
Glad Magherafelt won. Canavan has a job to do but when you recruit a player who attends the school one day per week and the rest of the time he's at the tech, where do it become credible?
Quote from: Silver hill on February 15, 2022, 10:15:56 PM
Glad Magherafelt won. Canavan has a job to do but when you recruit a player who attends the school one day per week and the rest of the time he's at the tech, where do it become credible?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 16, 2022, 09:01:51 PM
Put they still at the convent, as the tech offers careers the convent don't,
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 16, 2022, 09:12:09 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on February 16, 2022, 09:01:51 PM
Put they still at the convent, as the tech offers careers the convent don't,
Mid-week drinking should be discouraged.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 16, 2022, 11:59:57 AMI've a lad at Magee and they played SRC in Div 3 of Uni - Corn na Mac Leinn. Think NRC have had teams in previous years.Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 16, 2022, 01:10:08 AM
The tech not play vocational schools fball? Think they played some form of competition yrs ago.
Some FE colleges in d'north used to participate in the Markey & Ward Cups in the former Vocational Schools competitions. East Tyrone (now SWC Dungannon) used to be a big powerhouse in the late 80's & early 90's winning five All-Ireland titles during this period, Newry College (Now SRC Newry) also won one or two Markey cups IIRC, last reaching a final in the mid 00's, while Fermanagh College (SWC Enniskillen) won Ulster in 1996 (I think) & reached the All-Ireland final. Omagh College (SWC Omagh) reached the 2001 Markey Cup final, losing out to St. Ciaran's Ballygawley. More recently NRC Magherafelt reached the Ward Cup final (at that point the Vocational Schools U18 "B" competition) in 2014.
ATM however the seems to be a dearth of FE college teams playing schools football in Ulster, probably down to many of the schools that used to be in the VS setup now offering their own post-16 courses whereas in the past many such students that left after their GCSEs would have went on to an FE college if they didn't go to a local Grammar School instead to do A-Levels. For example the Omagh College side mentioned above were backboned by a number of players from St. John's Dromore that won the Arthurs Cup two years previously.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 17, 2022, 09:54:46 AM
I was at the Convent and tech at the same time early 90's one of the first, Not too many A-Levels at the time suited for Architecture whereas the Techs had Tech Drawing. When a different route at the finish.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2022, 08:26:30 PMThe Convent were under serious pressure for the last 10mins. Couldn't get the ball out of their half. With the wind behind them, Brendan's hemmed the Convent in on the kick out. There wasn't a handy out for the Convent. Think Brendan's kicked 4 wides in a row before they hit the three points in a row to win it.
Point up in Injury time, Kerry team scored 3 times from each resulting kickout. Nobody can hit the selfdestruct button like the convent over the years.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2022, 03:21:49 PM
Don't see a Hogan cup thread, so I drop it under this. All that attacking football, wish it was like this all the time. poor lads in for a reality check in years to come in the world of defensive fball for those who make it to county senior. First time a Kildare school won Hogan Cup?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2022, 03:21:49 PM
Don't see a Hogan cup thread, so I drop it under this. All that attacking football, wish it was like this all the time. poor lads in for a reality check in years to come in the world of defensive fball for those who make it to county senior. First time a Kildare school won Hogan Cup?
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on July 05, 2022, 04:59:25 PM
I see Dominic Corrigan has retired from St. Michael's College Enniskillen. It'll be interesting to see how the void with him gone will be filled as his influence at the school for the last several decades has been immense.
https://fermanaghherald.com/2022/07/video-happy-retirement-dom/
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 05, 2022, 06:21:44 PMQuote from: Fionntamhnach on July 05, 2022, 04:59:25 PM
I see Dominic Corrigan has retired from St. Michael's College Enniskillen. It'll be interesting to see how the void with him gone will be filled as his influence at the school for the last several decades has been immense.
https://fermanaghherald.com/2022/07/video-happy-retirement-dom/
Some man! Challenged the major powers and got his coveted Hogan title. When Adrian McGuckin retired from Maghera andPete mc GrathRay Morgan from Colmans there was a lengthy downturn in trophies.
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 10, 2022, 03:51:09 PMUlster college GAA on fb generally has loads on it
Is there any site that does up to date fixtures, Ulster colleges website is away to the dogs
Quote from: johnnycool on October 11, 2022, 08:16:59 AM
Red High, reigning Mageean cup champions beaten yesterday by St Mary's CBGS by 5 points in the first game.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2022, 09:12:42 PMQuote from: Truth hurts on October 10, 2022, 03:51:09 PMUlster college GAA on fb generally has loads on it
Is there any site that does up to date fixtures, Ulster colleges website is away to the dogs
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 11, 2022, 09:41:32 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2022, 09:12:42 PMQuote from: Truth hurts on October 10, 2022, 03:51:09 PMUlster college GAA on fb generally has loads on it
Is there any site that does up to date fixtures, Ulster colleges website is away to the dogs
I have looked there and cannot see any fixtures. When does the McRory and Rannafst start? ANy fixtures around Down or Belfast this weekend does anyone know?
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 12, 2022, 09:54:11 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2022, 09:12:42 PMQuote from: Truth hurts on October 10, 2022, 03:51:09 PMUlster college GAA on fb generally has loads on it
Is there any site that does up to date fixtures, Ulster colleges website is away to the dogs
Their Instagram page is also fairly up-to-date with things as well. However for fixture lists it's tricky to get them, especially with most schools arranging dates/times to suit themselves. I don't think they're published into the GAA GMS either.
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 16, 2022, 09:25:41 AM
I wish the games would revert back to Saturdays at 11am but i suppose a lot going on now.
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 16, 2022, 09:25:41 AMWould most 16/17/18 year olds not work on Saturdays??
I wish the games would revert back to Saturdays at 11am but i suppose a lot going on now.
Quote from: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 10:43:36 PM
Big wins for Omagh and Cookstown tonight. HTC were dogged.
Quote from: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 10:51:52 PM
What is it?
Quote from: ClubScene13 on January 13, 2023, 05:59:49 PMQuote from: Link on January 13, 2023, 05:32:39 PM
A few lads overage that have already completed year 14 and word of others doing a 2 day week in school? Surely not
It's the lads that have completed year 14 that are doing the 2 day school week. Work experience the other 3 days. It's definitely wrong and I assume the lads could be 19 by now. I don't know how many are at it but I know of at least 3 starting tonight, could be more, might not be.
You'd imagine the Academy / Maghera / Convent wouldn't be happy about this but they seem to be getting away with it for now.
Quote from: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 10:59:16 PMThat's very true, but that was more about keeping
Sure for decades, all the major GAA schools in the competition allowed lads who bombed at GCSE/O'Level to stay on and introduced all manner of qualifications to enable them to play MacRory. Or enticed them from secondaries across the road for the same reason.
Isn't there an age cut-off anyway?
Quote from: the_daddy on January 14, 2023, 12:21:48 AMQuote from: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 11:48:54 PMDevlin the elder.
Had a look there at HTC's squad last year in the final and this year's team today. I can only see 2 new names who may have come from 5th year, I dunno.
Who completed 7 years in another school and was enticed?
Quote from: bannside on January 14, 2023, 09:06:39 AM
https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1614042906213613569?t=Cu9S5bpydIxLeT_AyMBw4Q&s=08
Some comeback to be fair. They don't come much sweeter for the winners (or devastating for the losers) than this!
Quote from: Link on January 14, 2023, 09:08:03 AM
19 year olds shouldn't be playing macrory. End of.
Quote from: Estimator on January 13, 2023, 11:30:12 PMWas hogan ever u18? Always thought the school year in the south works off the calendar year so was always u19Quote from: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 10:59:16 PMThat's very true, but that was more about keeping
Sure for decades, all the major GAA schools in the competition allowed lads who bombed at GCSE/O'Level to stay on and introduced all manner of qualifications to enable them to play MacRory. Or enticed them from secondaries across the road for the same reason.
Isn't there an age cut-off anyway?studentsgood footballers on at the same school after their GCSEs, or moving them across at that point, not enticing them in after they've completed 7 years in a different school altogether.
MacRory is now U-19. I believe it used to be U-18.5 and there was a time where MacRory winning teams would've lost players for the Hogan as it was U-18
Quote from: thewobbler on January 14, 2023, 12:11:51 PM
Hogan was u18 until around 2000. It's now u18.5 I believe.
Quote from: WT4E on January 14, 2023, 12:18:27 PMQuote from: thewobbler on January 14, 2023, 12:11:51 PM
Hogan was u18 until around 2000. It's now u18.5 I believe.
I think Dungannon academy won it in 1997 with some lads that would not have been u18? Conal Martin or ja quinn maybe?
Quote from: pbat on February 10, 2023, 09:18:18 PM
Why was the MacRory final moved from Patrick's day?
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2023, 09:09:40 PM
Big win for St Joe's Donaghmore in the McLarnon.
Not too distant future could see Cookstown, Dungannon, Omagh and Donaghmore competing in the A grade. Possibly Ballygawley too.
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2023, 09:09:40 PMWhat about the Dean?
Big win for St Joe's Donaghmore in the McLarnon.
Not too distant future could see Cookstown, Dungannon, Omagh and Donaghmore competing in the A grade. Possibly Ballygawley too.
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2023, 09:09:40 PM
Big win for St Joe's Donaghmore in the McLarnon.
Not too distant future could see Cookstown, Dungannon, Omagh and Donaghmore competing in the A grade. Possibly Ballygawley too.
Quote from: redzone on February 10, 2023, 10:55:22 PMCute hoorism?
Have the CBS taking their eye of the ball. Players seem to have spent the week doing publicity photos. Be interesting to see how it plays out on Sunday
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 08:24:48 AM
Am I the only one who just doesn't get the whole appeal of McRory cup? In many cases the best players (senior county) don't even feature whereas lads who peak early in their physical development do.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 08:24:48 AM
Am I the only one who just doesn't get the whole appeal of McRory cup? In many cases the best players (senior county) don't even feature whereas lads who peak early in their physical development do.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2023, 08:42:42 AMQuote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 08:24:48 AM
Am I the only one who just doesn't get the whole appeal of McRory cup? In many cases the best players (senior county) don't even feature whereas lads who peak early in their physical development do.
Were you not picked for your school team?
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 08:24:48 AMI get this. a relative of didn't make McRory, didn't make one single school team in fact but fast forward 4/5 years later was on the fringes of the senior county team and only for studying and traveling abroad probably would have made it at inter county level. I'd say there was probably only a handful of players from my years McRory team that was still playing club football at senior level 10 years on. That said I do enjoy the latter stages of the competition and keep an eye out for results.
Am I the only one who just doesn't get the whole appeal of McRory cup? In many cases the best players (senior county) don't even feature whereas lads who peak early in their physical development do.
Quote from: WT4E on February 12, 2023, 12:48:10 PM
Can u pay at the f**king gate today
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 02:55:23 PM
Did Devlin from Ardboe move from the Academy to Holy Trinity? Is that Horse Devlin's son?
Quote from: square_ball on February 12, 2023, 03:18:41 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 02:55:23 PM
Did Devlin from Ardboe move from the Academy to Holy Trinity? Is that Horse Devlin's son?
Yeah that's him. He done his 7 years at the academy before going to HTC. He's been poor today. Looks to be carrying an injury in fairness.
Omagh by far and away the better side. Score line nearly flatters HTC.
Quote from: clarshack on February 12, 2023, 03:18:22 PM
How on earth did that Holy Trinity team even make the final? Was the standard that bad among all the other teams they played?
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 03:31:09 PMQuote from: clarshack on February 12, 2023, 03:18:22 PM
How on earth did that Holy Trinity team even make the final? Was the standard that bad among all the other teams they played?
Well Maghera coaching is awful and has been this long time so that's probably the reason they won the quarter final.
Quote from: Estimator on February 12, 2023, 05:04:46 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 03:31:09 PMQuote from: clarshack on February 12, 2023, 03:18:22 PM
How on earth did that Holy Trinity team even make the final? Was the standard that bad among all the other teams they played?
Well Maghera coaching is awful and has been this long time so that's probably the reason they won the quarter final.
If 4 MacRory titles out of 5 final appearances in the last 10/12 years or so is awful coaching I'd hate to see them with good coaching.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 12, 2023, 05:36:08 PMWalter is 100%. Maghera had too many passengers and players who werent comfortable on the ball compared to that omagh team today especially in defence.Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 03:31:09 PMHaving watched the quarter final, I don't think that's true. Maghera were very unlucky not to win it. Young lads are unpredictable.Quote from: clarshack on February 12, 2023, 03:18:22 PM
How on earth did that Holy Trinity team even make the final? Was the standard that bad among all the other teams they played?
Well Maghera coaching is awful and has been this long time so that's probably the reason they won the quarter final.
Quote from: ONeill on February 12, 2023, 07:30:57 PM
Hope HTC are on half term this week. Wee crabbit Pete would go through them.
Quote from: OrchardOrange on February 12, 2023, 11:09:16 PMTo make matters worse , Tyrone teams have cleaned up the A B & C grades !
It's a disgrace that 2 Tyrone schools contest the final. What's worse 3 Tyrone teams in the semis. Favoritism the likes of I've never seen. >:(Next we'll hear is that Errigal Ciaran get a bye to the final and not a grammar school within 15 miles of it!!
Quote from: giveherlong on February 12, 2023, 08:22:09 PM
That was a pish poor effort from Cookstown. A year wasted for the 8th years
Quote from: delgany on February 13, 2023, 12:03:25 AMI thought some of the commentators saying that the majority of the Donaghmore McLarnon team were lower sixth. If so, they could be looking at competing in the McRory next year.Quote from: OrchardOrange on February 12, 2023, 11:09:16 PMTo make matters worse , Tyrone teams have cleaned up the A B & C grades !
It's a disgrace that 2 Tyrone schools contest the final. What's worse 3 Tyrone teams in the semis. Favoritism the likes of I've never seen. >:(Next we'll hear is that Errigal Ciaran get a bye to the final and not a grammar school within 15 miles of it!!
Quote from: LeoMc on February 13, 2023, 09:01:33 AMDonaghmore definitely played Rannafast last year. Maghera beat them by a few points in the quarter-final, so they definitely could step up next year.Quote from: delgany on February 13, 2023, 12:03:25 AMI thought some of the commentators saying that the majority of the Donaghmore McLarnon team were lower sixth. If so, they could be looking at competing in the McRory next year.Quote from: OrchardOrange on February 12, 2023, 11:09:16 PMTo make matters worse , Tyrone teams have cleaned up the A B & C grades !
It's a disgrace that 2 Tyrone schools contest the final. What's worse 3 Tyrone teams in the semis. Favoritism the likes of I've never seen. >:(Next we'll hear is that Errigal Ciaran get a bye to the final and not a grammar school within 15 miles of it!!
Quote from: OrchardOrange on February 12, 2023, 11:09:16 PMGo on tell us more! Why is it a disgrace and why would St Ciarans need to be a grammar to enter?
It's a disgrace that 2 Tyrone schools contest the final. What's worse 3 Tyrone teams in the semis. Favoritism the likes of I've never seen. >:(Next we'll hear is that Errigal Ciaran get a bye to the final and not a grammar school within 15 miles of it!!
Quote from: Estimator on February 13, 2023, 10:00:01 AMWinning a first trophy was a big thing I suppose, they'd have been more than competitive in the MacRory. I watched them v St Pat's Armagh in a warm up game, I believe a few were missing that day too, Armagh won by a point but very fortunate to have done so.Quote from: LeoMc on February 13, 2023, 09:01:33 AMDonaghmore definitely played Rannafast last year. Maghera beat them by a few points in the quarter-final, so they definitely could step up next year.Quote from: delgany on February 13, 2023, 12:03:25 AMI thought some of the commentators saying that the majority of the Donaghmore McLarnon team were lower sixth. If so, they could be looking at competing in the McRory next year.Quote from: OrchardOrange on February 12, 2023, 11:09:16 PMTo make matters worse , Tyrone teams have cleaned up the A B & C grades !
It's a disgrace that 2 Tyrone schools contest the final. What's worse 3 Tyrone teams in the semis. Favoritism the likes of I've never seen. >:(Next we'll hear is that Errigal Ciaran get a bye to the final and not a grammar school within 15 miles of it!!
Quote from: Estimator on February 25, 2023, 04:22:06 PM
Tyrone schools could do a clean sweep of the All-Ireland finals.
Quote from: LC on March 10, 2023, 02:26:27 PMNot many C grade schools in Ireland would have county players let alone minors and u20s
https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/o-carolan-college-aim-to-crown-incredible-year-with-all-ireland-title/
Surely something not right here, obviously a team playing one if not two grades lower than they should be.
Surely Carrickmore were not that bad a team.
Quote from: LC on March 10, 2023, 02:32:29 PMQuick check to compare the 2022 Tyrone Ulster Minor final panel to the Omagh CBS MacRory Cup squad and there is a least 7/8 lads on both. Did the same with the Donaghmore team and it's similar numbers.
Would Omagh CBS even have that amount of county men?
Quote from: shawshank on March 17, 2023, 12:39:39 PM
I have to say that I think that the ' future all stars' thing is utter bollox. Seriously what is the point outside of trying to promote Queens
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2023, 01:57:15 PMQuote from: shawshank on March 17, 2023, 12:39:39 PM
I have to say that I think that the ' future all stars' thing is utter bollox. Seriously what is the point outside of trying to promote Queens
Well the kids put plenty effort into it.
As for Queens promotion, sure what's wrong with promoting going to college? Very clever to show your worth
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.
Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.
Quote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.
Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.
Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PMFrom the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the waterQuote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.
Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.
Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes
Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
Quote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PMFrom the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the waterQuote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.
Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.
Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes
Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
Quote from: God14 on March 17, 2023, 08:38:41 PM
Consider how good Omagh were.
Dungannon academy and Holy Trinity Cookstown made up a three of the semi finalists for Tyrone schools
Donaghmore convent swept all before them at 'b' grade winning ulster and All Ireland handsomely
Carrickmore did well also at the C grade winning Ulster
I can see why the Derryman is concerned. Serious firepower coming down the tracks
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PMQuote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PMFrom the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the waterQuote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.
Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.
Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes
Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PMMooneys been playing every year bar the years he's had bad injuries since he was a minor. Donal OHare was consistently our top forward for the best part of 5 years. Jerome and Ryan have been established for a long time as wellQuote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PMFrom the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the waterQuote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.
Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.
Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes
Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.
Quote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 11:20:09 PMSaying colleges football is seriously overrated bacuse few make county teams is like saying Minor football is also overrated. I've seen many an entertaining game in colleges football. How many of the great St Colmans and Maghera sides in mid to late 80s went on to play for their counties? and win Sam.Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PMMooneys been playing every year bar the years he's had bad injuries since he was a minor. Donal OHare was consistently our top forward for the best part of 5 years. Jerome and Ryan have been established for a long time as wellQuote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PMFrom the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the waterQuote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.
Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.
Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes
Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.
IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans, St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.
Quote from: marty34 on March 18, 2023, 10:20:48 AMQuote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.
IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans, St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.
Do many sth. Armagh lads still go to the 2 Newry schools?
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 18, 2023, 11:57:58 AMQuote from: marty34 on March 18, 2023, 10:20:48 AMQuote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.
IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans, St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.
Do many sth. Armagh lads still go to the 2 Newry schools?
Still the schools of preference generally but the numbers wouldn't be what they were. St Pauls and St Joes in Cross gradually getting stronger and stronger. St Joe's have the new school now so I can see it pushing on a lot, particularly with A Level now well established.
Quote from: marty34 on March 18, 2023, 10:20:48 AMQuote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.
IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans, St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.
Do many sth. Armagh lads still go to the 2 Newry schools?
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.
IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans, St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.
Quote from: Estimator on March 17, 2023, 09:20:48 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PMQuote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PMFrom the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the waterQuote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.
Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.
Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes
Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.
Why change the argument to 'established' county players?
From those Maghera teams, would you just call Niall Toner, Padraig Cassidy, Oisin McWilliams, Shea Downey and Paul McNeill county players, but not 'established' county players?
Quote from: Wolfetones on March 18, 2023, 11:32:11 PMWhere would the likes of Stevie O'Neill & Dooher have gone to secondary?Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.
IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans, St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.
If anything Tyrone are currently over achieving considering that at the last count almost 25% of all the primary/post primary school age children within the RC/Nationalist community in Tyrone are within the Strabane catchment area and are contributing very little.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 19, 2023, 09:10:46 AMQuote from: Wolfetones on March 18, 2023, 11:32:11 PMWhere would the likes of Stevie O'Neill & Dooher have gone to secondary?Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.
IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans, St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.
If anything Tyrone are currently over achieving considering that at the last count almost 25% of all the primary/post primary school age children within the RC/Nationalist community in Tyrone are within the Strabane catchment area and are contributing very little.
Quote from: Wolfetones on March 19, 2023, 10:09:04 AMQuote from: bennydorano on March 19, 2023, 09:10:46 AMQuote from: Wolfetones on March 18, 2023, 11:32:11 PMWhere would the likes of Stevie O'Neill & Dooher have gone to secondary?Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.
IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans, St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.
If anything Tyrone are currently over achieving considering that at the last count almost 25% of all the primary/post primary school age children within the RC/Nationalist community in Tyrone are within the Strabane catchment area and are contributing very little.
Stevie ONeill went to St Joseph's in Plumbridge, long since closed, and then CBS in Omagh. Brian Dooher went to St Columbs in Derry.
Quote from: shawshank on March 18, 2023, 11:56:50 PMQuote from: Estimator on March 17, 2023, 09:20:48 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PMQuote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PMFrom the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the waterQuote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.
Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.
Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes
Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.
Why change the argument to 'established' county players?
From those Maghera teams, would you just call Niall Toner, Padraig Cassidy, Oisin McWilliams, Shea Downey and Paul McNeill county players, but not 'established' county players?
You forgot McKaigue, McClosey, D Cassidy. McKindless, E Bradley, Lynch all played a couple of MacRory campaigns, some won it
Quote from: Estimator on March 19, 2023, 11:00:53 AMQuote from: shawshank on March 18, 2023, 11:56:50 PMQuote from: Estimator on March 17, 2023, 09:20:48 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PMQuote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PMFrom the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the waterQuote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.
Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.
Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes
Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.
Why change the argument to 'established' county players?
From those Maghera teams, would you just call Niall Toner, Padraig Cassidy, Oisin McWilliams, Shea Downey and Paul McNeill county players, but not 'established' county players?
You forgot McKaigue, McClosey, D Cassidy. McKindless, E Bradley, Lynch all played a couple of MacRory campaigns, some won it
Didn't forget, was just highlighting the other Derry players from those Maghera teams referenced by the previous poster.
Could also point out that McCloskey, Lynch, Cassidy, McEvoy, O'Donnell have all come through on the back of Convent victories in the last 7/8 years.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2023, 01:08:21 PMQuote from: Estimator on March 19, 2023, 11:00:53 AMQuote from: shawshank on March 18, 2023, 11:56:50 PMQuote from: Estimator on March 17, 2023, 09:20:48 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PMQuote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PMFrom the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the waterQuote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.
Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.
Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes
Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.
Why change the argument to 'established' county players?
From those Maghera teams, would you just call Niall Toner, Padraig Cassidy, Oisin McWilliams, Shea Downey and Paul McNeill county players, but not 'established' county players?
You forgot McKaigue, McClosey, D Cassidy. McKindless, E Bradley, Lynch all played a couple of MacRory campaigns, some won it
Didn't forget, was just highlighting the other Derry players from those Maghera teams referenced by the previous poster.
Could also point out that McCloskey, Lynch, Cassidy, McEvoy, O'Donnell have all come through on the back of Convent victories in the last 7/8 years.
Or those Rossa players listed have come through based on the brilliant underage work at the club.
Quote from: Estimator on March 17, 2023, 09:20:48 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PMQuote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PMQuote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PMFrom the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the waterQuote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PMQuote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.
Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.
Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes
Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.
Why change the argument to 'established' county players?
From those Maghera teams, would you just call Niall Toner, Padraig Cassidy, Oisin McWilliams, Shea Downey and Paul McNeill county players, but not 'established' county players?
Quote from: grounded on March 18, 2023, 01:15:41 PMQuote from: marty34 on March 18, 2023, 10:20:48 AM[quote
author=bennydorano link=topic=22328.msg2187891#msg2187891 date=1679134335]
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.
IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans, St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.
Do many sth. Armagh lads still go to the 2 Newry schools?
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on December 13, 2023, 10:21:24 AMTyrone schools flying again. Three of them topped their MacRory groups as well and automatically through to the Quarter Finals.
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on December 13, 2023, 10:21:24 AMTyrone schools flying again. Three of them topped their MacRory groups as well and automatically through to the Quarter Finals.
Quote from: trailer on December 13, 2023, 09:43:45 AMPopped over to watch St Pat's Academy V St Pat's Armagh last night in the Rannafast final. Armagh led at the break by 2 points they got a fairly fortuitous goal in 1st half from a high ball into the square. Academy made hard work in first half running into a well organised and strong Armagh defence, who bottled them up and turned them over. HT 1-5 0-6
Academy better setup after the break and stopped running into the Armagh defence. Switching the play well to get a few danger men to catch handy marks as well as strong runners coming at better angles to break them down. Got a bit of a run on them. Armagh got another fairly lucky penalty to come back a them but Academy had a bit too much in the end running out 0-16 to 2-6 winners.
Good game. Best for Academy probably Joel Kerr, Liam McGeary and big lad in MF. Stewartstown lad.
Armagh Cathair Hughes, and Matty Daly.
https://teamtalkmag.com/rannafast-title-for-academy/ (https://teamtalkmag.com/rannafast-title-for-academy/)
Quote from: Onthe40 on December 13, 2023, 12:04:53 PMQuote from: trailer on December 13, 2023, 09:43:45 AMPopped over to watch St Pat's Academy V St Pat's Armagh last night in the Rannafast final. Armagh led at the break by 2 points they got a fairly fortuitous goal in 1st half from a high ball into the square. Academy made hard work in first half running into a well organised and strong Armagh defence, who bottled them up and turned them over. HT 1-5 0-6
Academy better setup after the break and stopped running into the Armagh defence. Switching the play well to get a few danger men to catch handy marks as well as strong runners coming at better angles to break them down. Got a bit of a run on them. Armagh got another fairly lucky penalty to come back a them but Academy had a bit too much in the end running out 0-16 to 2-6 winners.
Good game. Best for Academy probably Joel Kerr, Liam McGeary and big lad in MF. Stewartstown lad.
Armagh Cathair Hughes, and Matty Daly.
https://teamtalkmag.com/rannafast-title-for-academy/ (https://teamtalkmag.com/rannafast-title-for-academy/)
was it not the kildress lad in midfield...quality player..
Quote from: bennydorano on December 13, 2023, 12:31:26 PMCouldn't make it last night but I was at Armagh's last 3 Rannafast games, Dungannon beat us by 6 in the group stage so we knew it was going to be a big ask last night (& thats their 3rd Ulster title in a row for this group), but it bodes well for the future (& for my club as we'd 7 or 8 on show) should be competitive in the MacRory for a couple of years, noticeable that Dungannon & Abbey in the semi were that bit bigger generally. One of Dungannon's best players is young McGeary believe he's been starting on the MacRory team all year as well, a shame that he's in the Tyrone underage set up as him & his family are Armagh through & through, a major slip up there on our part.
As for the MacRory, was at all of Armagh's games including a few warm up games, unlucky to be departing at group stage after 2 x 1pt defeats and beating half a Maghera team (with half an Armagh team tbf). Was at Ronans v Bessbrook last week.
I predict a Maghera v Dungannon final.
Quote from: trailer on December 13, 2023, 01:53:55 PMCollegeland blood in him?Quote from: bennydorano on December 13, 2023, 12:31:26 PMCouldn't make it last night but I was at Armagh's last 3 Rannafast games, Dungannon beat us by 6 in the group stage so we knew it was going to be a big ask last night (& thats their 3rd Ulster title in a row for this group), but it bodes well for the future (& for my club as we'd 7 or 8 on show) should be competitive in the MacRory for a couple of years, noticeable that Dungannon & Abbey in the semi were that bit bigger generally. One of Dungannon's best players is young McGeary believe he's been starting on the MacRory team all year as well, a shame that he's in the Tyrone underage set up as him & his family are Armagh through & through, a major slip up there on our part.
As for the MacRory, was at all of Armagh's games including a few warm up games, unlucky to be departing at group stage after 2 x 1pt defeats and beating half a Maghera team (with half an Armagh team tbf). Was at Ronans v Bessbrook last week.
I predict a Maghera v Dungannon final.
Serious player. But he's with The Moy and lives in Tyrone and at a Tyrone school, so probably difficult enough for Armagh to pickup. But one for the future.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 13, 2023, 03:56:52 PMMaghera and Omagh not the teams to beat going by previous years? Maghera missing their best player in Danny McDermott. Injured for Glen in Ulster club semi final.
Quote from: bennydorano on December 13, 2023, 12:31:26 PMCouldn't make it last night but I was at Armagh's last 3 Rannafast games, Dungannon beat us by 6 in the group stage so we knew it was going to be a big ask last night (& thats their 3rd Ulster title in a row for this group), but it bodes well for the future (& for my club as we'd 7 or 8 on show) should be competitive in the MacRory for a couple of years, noticeable that Dungannon & Abbey in the semi were that bit bigger generally. One of Dungannon's best players is young McGeary believe he's been starting on the MacRory team all year as well, a shame that he's in the Tyrone underage set up as him & his family are Armagh through & through, a major slip up there on our part.
As for the MacRory, was at all of Armagh's games including a few warm up games, unlucky to be departing at group stage after 2 x 1pt defeats and beating half a Maghera team (with half an Armagh team tbf). Was at Ronans v Bessbrook last week.
I predict a Maghera v Dungannon final.
Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on December 13, 2023, 10:54:59 AMWon 1 (St Eunans, Letterkenny) and Drew 1 (Loreto Milford). Play Abbey on Monday. A win sends them through to the Quarter Finals as group winners where they would play the winners of St Louis' Ballymena and Aquinas Belfast. A defeat puts them in a Play Off Game against St Pius for a place in the Quarter Finals.Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on December 13, 2023, 10:21:24 AMTyrone schools flying again. Three of them topped their MacRory groups as well and automatically through to the Quarter Finals.
Any word on how other Tyrone schools are going? I was interested to see how the Dean got on in MacLarnon.
Quote from: toby47 on January 02, 2024, 09:09:31 AMI wonder is there more to it?
Chrissy McKaigue is the manager, and has been getting a touch under the tweet by a few comments. Surely no bigger club man or duel player advocate?
Quote from: johnnycool on January 02, 2024, 10:24:44 AMQuote from: toby47 on January 02, 2024, 09:09:31 AMI wonder is there more to it?
Chrissy McKaigue is the manager, and has been getting a touch under the tweet by a few comments. Surely no bigger club man or duel player advocate?
He'd hardly be the first manager/coach who it looking to build his reputation on the back of a few schools trophies and is entirely focused on that.
The fact that these lads were representing their club in an Ulster minor semi-final is quite galling that the school whose next game isn't till next week felt the need to exclude them for playing for their very club!!!
Stop forcing kids to chose between codes.
Quote from: johnnycool on January 02, 2024, 10:24:44 AMDid he not leave teaching to be a full time coach in his own club? That's what he talked about on the gaa social podcast last year.Quote from: toby47 on January 02, 2024, 09:09:31 AMI wonder is there more to it?
Chrissy McKaigue is the manager, and has been getting a touch under the tweet by a few comments. Surely no bigger club man or duel player advocate?
He'd hardly be the first manager/coach who it looking to build his reputation on the back of a few schools trophies and is entirely focused on that.
The fact that these lads were representing their club in an Ulster minor semi-final is quite galling that the school whose next game isn't till next week felt the need to exclude them for playing for their very club!!!
Stop forcing kids to chose between codes.
Quote from: statto on January 02, 2024, 10:55:59 AMQuote from: johnnycool on January 02, 2024, 10:24:44 AMDid he not leave teaching to be a full time coach in his own club? That's what he talked about on the gaa social podcast last year.Quote from: toby47 on January 02, 2024, 09:09:31 AMI wonder is there more to it?
Chrissy McKaigue is the manager, and has been getting a touch under the tweet by a few comments. Surely no bigger club man or duel player advocate?
He'd hardly be the first manager/coach who it looking to build his reputation on the back of a few schools trophies and is entirely focused on that.
The fact that these lads were representing their club in an Ulster minor semi-final is quite galling that the school whose next game isn't till next week felt the need to exclude them for playing for their very club!!!
Stop forcing kids to chose between codes.
Quote from: marty34 on January 02, 2024, 11:46:48 AMCollege football is very serious at the time but minor in the bigger scheme of things. Lads get in who flunked GCSEs etc. just to play football and do made-uppy courses. Then they're out of the school.
Quote from: naka on January 02, 2024, 12:27:47 PMQuote from: marty34 on January 02, 2024, 11:46:48 AMCollege football is very serious at the time but minor in the bigger scheme of things. Lads get in who flunked GCSEs etc. just to play football and do made-uppy courses. Then they're out of the school.
only in some schools at present,
exam results in others becoming more important ( newry schools i believe pushing exam results more than football)
tbf when I was at school it was all about the football but that was in the 80s
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 01:28:21 PMIn my experience they'll get put through a course for a level/equivalent that they'll definitely get into uni with. Suppose its up to themselves from there on.Quote from: naka on January 02, 2024, 12:27:47 PMQuote from: marty34 on January 02, 2024, 11:46:48 AMCollege football is very serious at the time but minor in the bigger scheme of things. Lads get in who flunked GCSEs etc. just to play football and do made-uppy courses. Then they're out of the school.
only in some schools at present,
exam results in others becoming more important ( newry schools i believe pushing exam results more than football)
tbf when I was at school it was all about the football but that was in the 80s
Makes sense, when young fellas go for a mortgage down the line their job / salary will have more relevance than having played McRory football.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 01:46:24 PMIf a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.Know plenty of lads that were totally useless in school but stayed on because of football. Some of them ended up getting into uni through football then handy teaching jobs, some went to uni and wasted a year and ended up being useless later in life as well, some left uni went to a trade and are now earning great money.
We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 02, 2024, 01:50:08 PMQuote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 01:46:24 PMIf a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.Know plenty of lads that were totally useless in school but stayed on because of football. Some of them ended up getting into uni through football then handy teaching jobs, some went to uni and wasted a year and ended up being useless later in life as well, some left uni went to a trade and are now earning great money.
We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 01:46:24 PMIf a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.
We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 01:46:24 PMIf a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.
We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications. Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans. Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:Yeah spot on. No harm in lads pissing about for a year in uni tbh.
1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.
2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.
3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.
Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications. Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans. Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:
1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.
2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.
3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.
Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2024, 10:00:26 AMQuote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications. Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans. Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:
1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.
2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.
3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.
Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.
Think the days of getting to stay in a school because of football is over. And fellas going to J'stown to do some bullshit course and play some football should catch themselves on as well. Most employers put CVs with J'stown degrees on them straight into the bin.
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2024, 10:00:26 AM100% wrong lolQuote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications. Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans. Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:
1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.
2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.
3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.
Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.
Think the days of getting to stay in a school because of football is over. And fellas going to J'stown to do some bullshit course and play some football should catch themselves on as well. Most employers put CVs with J'stown degrees on them straight into the bin.
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 03, 2024, 12:01:22 PMDegrees count for very little nowadays no matter where they're from.Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2024, 10:00:26 AM100% wrong lolQuote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications. Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans. Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:
1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.
2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.
3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.
Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.
Think the days of getting to stay in a school because of football is over. And fellas going to J'stown to do some bullshit course and play some football should catch themselves on as well. Most employers put CVs with J'stown degrees on them straight into the bin.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2024, 10:49:32 AMQuote from: trailer on January 03, 2024, 10:00:26 AMQuote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications. Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans. Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:
1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.
2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.
3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.
Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.
Think the days of getting to stay in a school because of football is over. And fellas going to J'stown to do some bullshit course and play some football should catch themselves on as well. Most employers put CVs with J'stown degrees on them straight into the bin.
That's just full of crap
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2024, 12:40:01 PMIf an applicant meets the criteria they should be given an interview, as far as I know you can't have criteria that says degrees from this college is binned/deleted
Its been a while since I was interviewing people but can't remember that being on it..
What colleges degrees are you ok with?
Quote from: Truth hurts on January 03, 2024, 03:29:02 PMThis weekend, will any Ulster school games be streamed?
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 03, 2024, 05:25:35 PMWhere Jc? Ulster Gaa?
Quote from: Truth hurts on January 03, 2024, 03:29:02 PMThis weekend, will any Ulster school games be streamed?
Quote from: bennydorano on January 05, 2024, 04:36:24 PMA lot of Ulster School's tweets & GAA tweets in general are polluted by bots offering '4K HD Streaming'. I've no idea what these bot tweets achieve, can anybody enlighten me ::)
Quote from: statto on January 05, 2024, 11:21:30 PMAbbey 2-9 st ronans 2-8.st ronans lost goalkeeper Liam Carroll in second half and that was a big turning point abbey got goal in next play.conal mcgeough (forkhill) looks a good prospect must got 2-3 or 2-4 played an unbelievable pass in first half too to create a goal chance which hit post.dont think abbey great overall.Good result for the Abbey as team not fancied as such.
Quote from: naka on January 06, 2024, 10:31:00 AMDisappointing for St Ronan's, thought they'd have edged that with a few to sore. Abbey play Donaghmore next, didn't realise they were MacRory. Presume they're decent?Quote from: statto on January 05, 2024, 11:21:30 PMAbbey 2-9 st ronans 2-8.st ronans lost goalkeeper Liam Carroll in second half and that was a big turning point abbey got goal in next play.conal mcgeough (forkhill) looks a good prospect must got 2-3 or 2-4 played an unbelievable pass in first half too to create a goal chance which hit post.dont think abbey great overall.Good result for the Abbey as team not fancied as such.
Quote from: square_ball on January 11, 2024, 08:22:19 PMDonaghmore giving Abbey a bit of a trimming so far. 4-7 to 0-3 at HT
Quote from: ONeill on January 12, 2024, 07:23:54 AMSeems like Tyrone school football is on the up again these last 2/3 years. The stats will probably contradict this but it felt there was a bit of a lull for a right few years in the county in terms of winning silverware in the MacRory.Challenge Accepted
County | Win | Finalist |
Tyrone | 6 | 3 |
Armagh | 1 | 0 |
Fermanagh | 2 | 2 |
Down | 2 | 2 |
Derry | 1 | 1 |
Monaghan | 0 | 2 |
County | Win | Finalist |
Tyrone | 1 | 7 |
Armagh | 1 | 2 |
Fermanagh | 2 | 0 |
Down | 2 | 1 |
Derry | 6 | 2 |
Cavan | 1 | 0 |
Quote from: Wolfetones on January 12, 2024, 12:41:59 AMThere will be nothing straight forward for Maghera against Magherafelt tonight. McDermott a massive loss for Maghera.Quote from: square_ball on January 11, 2024, 08:22:19 PMDonaghmore giving Abbey a bit of a trimming so far. 4-7 to 0-3 at HT
Ended up about 5-10 to 1-6. Huge gap between the two teams. Poor enough floodlights for a night match. You'd expect both CBS Omagh and Academy Dungannon to win their quarter finals to leave 3 Tyrone teams and 1 Derry in the Semifinals. Maghera or CBS for outright honours.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on January 12, 2024, 05:16:00 PMProgress made by Donaghmore at both club and school level is staggering. Heading into a MacRory semi final as favourites is some rise.
I don't know the names of all the cups but wouldn't they of been "third tier" at schools level not long ago?
The Academy and Donaghmore in a semi final would have some bite to it, would only be about 4 mile between the schools.
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 12, 2024, 07:43:47 PMIs McLarnon the B competition for MacRory age group ?Yeah since the amalgamation MacRory is A, McLarnon B and Markey C.
Quote from: Norm-Peterson on January 12, 2024, 08:14:46 PMI wonder who was the first county footballer to come out of my old school St Mary's Magherafelt? My first thought is Johnny McBride. There were no past pupils in the 1993 Derry team as far as I Know although St Pius Magherafelt had 2 past pupils. McCloskey was the first St Mary's past pupil to win an All Star.
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 12, 2024, 12:13:24 PMQuote from: Wolfetones on January 12, 2024, 12:41:59 AMThere will be nothing straight forward for Maghera against Magherafelt tonight. McDermott a massive loss for Maghera.Quote from: square_ball on January 11, 2024, 08:22:19 PMDonaghmore giving Abbey a bit of a trimming so far. 4-7 to 0-3 at HT
Ended up about 5-10 to 1-6. Huge gap between the two teams. Poor enough floodlights for a night match. You'd expect both CBS Omagh and Academy Dungannon to win their quarter finals to leave 3 Tyrone teams and 1 Derry in the Semifinals. Maghera or CBS for outright honours.
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 12, 2024, 12:13:24 PMCalled it.Quote from: Wolfetones on January 12, 2024, 12:41:59 AMThere will be nothing straight forward for Maghera against Magherafelt tonight. McDermott a massive loss for Maghera.Quote from: square_ball on January 11, 2024, 08:22:19 PMDonaghmore giving Abbey a bit of a trimming so far. 4-7 to 0-3 at HT
Ended up about 5-10 to 1-6. Huge gap between the two teams. Poor enough floodlights for a night match. You'd expect both CBS Omagh and Academy Dungannon to win their quarter finals to leave 3 Tyrone teams and 1 Derry in the Semifinals. Maghera or CBS for outright honours.
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on January 12, 2024, 10:17:01 PMSargent is a rollys Royce of player for the Convent , and still under 17 this year , Conal Higgins was excellent in the second half too
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 01:36:22 AMDeclan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 01:36:22 AMDeclan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.
[/qupribsblQuote from: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 01:36:22 AMDeclan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.Declan was my year at the convent and your probably right in what you say, back in 89 when Derry won the All Ireland minor there would only have been him and John Mulholland on the panel from memory , compare that to last year's minor team when they're was ten or eleven.
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 13, 2024, 09:37:00 AMDid big John not go to St Pius' ?Starting to doubt myself Hoof but I think he can't to the convent after 5 th year for A levels
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on January 13, 2024, 10:31:13 AMQuote from: Hoof Hearted on January 13, 2024, 09:37:00 AMDid big John not go to St Pius' ?Starting to doubt myself Hoof but I think he can't to the convent after 5 th year for A levels
Quote from: skeog on January 13, 2024, 09:07:12 AMDoes Chrissy mc Kaigue teach in Maghera?
Quote from: LC on January 13, 2024, 12:19:00 PMI thought his day job was coaching officer for his own club.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 01:36:22 AMDeclan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.
Quote from: GTP on January 13, 2024, 10:20:02 PMTotally off topic but is that 4 of 7 all ireland winners in defence and goals conceding 4-12 and none of the squad in the forwards. Barton excluded as midfield.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 13, 2024, 10:05:15 PMSeamus was some servant for Castledawson ,in the 84 county final he lined out for then and was still under 16 from memoryQuote from: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 01:36:22 AMDeclan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.
Still going with Seamus Shivers.
3 December 1989
NFL Derry 3-5 Cork 4-12
Derry team: D McCusker; K McKeever, T Scullion, P O'Donnell; J McGurk (0-1), B McPeake (RIP), G McPeake; E Heaney, D Barton (0-1); S Shivers (1-1), PJ McCormack, M Berryman; R Scullion (2-2), L Devlin, J O'Neill. Subs: P Gribbin, E Gribbin.
Though I think maybe Barry Young from Glen also got an NFL game or two.
Quote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2024, 01:55:45 PMAny word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm
Chair O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS - it is brutal to watch.
Quote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2024, 01:55:45 PMAny word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.Teams have to be set up these days. To not have a setup in place would be naive at this point. The problem comes with teams having a lack of attacking plan to break teams down, a lack of inventiveness, a lack of pace and drive, a lack of stretching the opposition lines. This is what separates the good coaches and teams from the pack.
Chair O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS - it is brutal to watch.
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 16, 2024, 02:07:56 PMQuote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2024, 01:55:45 PMAny word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.Teams have to be set up these days. To not have a setup in place would be naive at this point. The problem comes with teams having a lack of attacking plan to break teams down, a lack of inventiveness, a lack of pace and drive, a lack of stretching the opposition lines. This is what separates the good coaches and teams from the pack.
Chair O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS - it is brutal to watch.
Quote from: shawshank on January 16, 2024, 03:40:15 PMFor me its the gap in the attacking coaching is the problem, not the defensive system.
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on January 14, 2024, 12:19:08 PMQuote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 13, 2024, 10:05:15 PMSeamus was some servant for Castledawson ,in the 84 county final he lined out for then and was still under 16 from memoryQuote from: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 01:36:22 AMDeclan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.
Still going with Seamus Shivers.
3 December 1989
NFL Derry 3-5 Cork 4-12
Derry team: D McCusker; K McKeever, T Scullion, P O'Donnell; J McGurk (0-1), B McPeake (RIP), G McPeake; E Heaney, D Barton (0-1); S Shivers (1-1), PJ McCormack, M Berryman; R Scullion (2-2), L Devlin, J O'Neill. Subs: P Gribbin, E Gribbin.
Though I think maybe Barry Young from Glen also got an NFL game or two.
Quote from: shawshank on January 16, 2024, 03:40:15 PMFor me its the gap in the attacking coaching is the problem, not the defensive system.So maybe we change the rules to make the sport attractive to play in and watch again.
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 16, 2024, 02:05:20 PMQuote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2024, 01:55:45 PMAny word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm
Chair O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS - it is brutal to watch.
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - tbc
Quote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2024, 01:55:45 PMAny word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.
Cahir O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS - it is brutal to watch.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2024, 10:38:20 AMTeams/coaches players are too afraid to lose/shoot/attack
Watching players run past a opposition player with the ball to get 'into position' is fecking nuts
The game only opens up in the final quarter when teams have to try and win it
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 12:01:07 PMConfirmedNot sure why but the Omagh and Magherafelt game has been changed to Monday 22nd at 12:00, still in Coalisland.
Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm - Referee: Martin McNally
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - 2:00pm - Referee: Paul Falloon
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 02:58:39 PMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 12:01:07 PMConfirmedNot sure why but the Omagh and Magherafelt game has been changed to Monday 22nd at 12:00, still in Coalisland.
Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm - Referee: Martin McNally
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - 2:00pm - Referee: Paul Falloon
Very disappointing to see a MacRory Cup Semi Final being played at such a time.
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 02:58:39 PMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 12:01:07 PMConfirmedNot sure why but the Omagh and Magherafelt game has been changed to Monday 22nd at 12:00, still in Coalisland.
Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm - Referee: Martin McNally
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - 2:00pm - Referee: Paul Falloon
Very disappointing to see a MacRory Cup Semi Final being played at such a time.
Quote from: Onthe40 on January 18, 2024, 03:51:36 PMthere's no way the ulster colleges committee will play that game at 12 on a Monday...that would attract 4-5000 next Friday night..too big a purse to lose out onYeah not a hope it is being played on Monday. Even if they went a midweek night it would attract a decent crowd. I see they have Markey Cup final for a midweek day too, I thought all finals in senior levels had to be evening or weekend?
Quote from: GTP on January 18, 2024, 03:25:33 PMPost about Omagh and Magherafelt on the Monday has since been deleted. Must have been a mix up in the graphics department.Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 02:58:39 PMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 12:01:07 PMConfirmedNot sure why but the Omagh and Magherafelt game has been changed to Monday 22nd at 12:00, still in Coalisland.
Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm - Referee: Martin McNally
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - 2:00pm - Referee: Paul Falloon
Very disappointing to see a MacRory Cup Semi Final being played at such a time.
Ulster Schools GAA X (Twitter) account still has it at 7:30pm on Friday 26 January at Coalisland. McLarnon Cup Q Finals listed for 12pm Monday 22 January.
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 04:49:26 PMYeah have been saying this for years. Surely a simple list of weekly fixtures shouldn't be hard to put together? There's a lot of school fixtures every week and I'm sure a few neutrals would love to go see some of them.Quote from: GTP on January 18, 2024, 03:25:33 PMPost about Omagh and Magherafelt on the Monday has since been deleted. Must have been a mix up in the graphics department.Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 02:58:39 PMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 12:01:07 PMConfirmedNot sure why but the Omagh and Magherafelt game has been changed to Monday 22nd at 12:00, still in Coalisland.
Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm - Referee: Martin McNally
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - 2:00pm - Referee: Paul Falloon
Very disappointing to see a MacRory Cup Semi Final being played at such a time.
Ulster Schools GAA X (Twitter) account still has it at 7:30pm on Friday 26 January at Coalisland. McLarnon Cup Q Finals listed for 12pm Monday 22 January.
In saying that Ulster Colleges could do with reforming their website. Very poor fixtures and results pages at all levels.
Quote from: Onthe40 on January 19, 2024, 10:10:16 PMGood to see St Malachys back playing a level colleges.. any reports how they getting on in the Oisin McGrath?Be interesting. They won the C competition last year which they should never have been in and decided to entirely bypass the B competition.
Quote from: GTP on January 26, 2024, 08:44:31 AMFor tonight's semi final does Coalisland have a covered stand or terracing for spectators?
Quote from: GTP on January 26, 2024, 08:44:31 AMFor tonight's semi final does Coalisland have a covered stand or terracing for spectators?
Quote from: Wolfetones on January 26, 2024, 11:04:31 PMOmagh just about get over the line again and didn't play particularly well. Magherafelt missed a few goal chances that came back to haunt them in the end. Although 3 points down around the 60 minutes mark and everyone behind the ball maybe they didn't deserve anything from the game.They scored two points and missed a good enough opportunity to equalise from that position. Omagh sat back to defend their lead high balls in or throwing men forward may have worked but given the way the game was going more likely Omagh turnover the ball eat up time and maybe grab another score. Hindsight would say pop the ball over the bar for a point with some of the goal chances but at the time it looked like St Mary's needed a goal to get back into the game. The two conceded will hurt as well.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 27, 2024, 10:54:15 AMAn issue with injury time?
Heard that Magherafelt line were roaring on to their players that there were 4 minutes to be played but it was blown up after 2.
Quote from: square_ball on January 27, 2024, 03:26:07 PMCo-commentator some tube as well.Mattie McGleenan.
Quote from: bennydorano on January 27, 2024, 03:33:12 PMQuote from: square_ball on January 27, 2024, 03:26:07 PMCo-commentator some tube as well.Mattie McGleenan.
Dungannon a bit cuter when it counted. I'd be sore with the ref if I was a Donaghmore supporter, some serious soft frees.
Quote from: bennydorano on January 27, 2024, 03:33:12 PMQuote from: square_ball on January 27, 2024, 03:26:07 PMCo-commentator some tube as well.Mattie McGleenan.
Dungannon a bit cuter when it counted. I'd be sore with the ref if I was a Donaghmore supporter, some serious soft frees.
Quote from: Mikhailov on January 27, 2024, 04:38:12 PMBig win for Dungannon as Donaghmore would have been more impressive coming into the game.Was always going to be tight given the familiarity between the players.Would expect Omagh be warm favourites for two in a row.Quote from: bennydorano on January 27, 2024, 03:33:12 PMQuote from: square_ball on January 27, 2024, 03:26:07 PMCo-commentator some tube as well.Mattie McGleenan.
Dungannon a bit cuter when it counted. I'd be sore with the ref if I was a Donaghmore supporter, some serious soft frees.
Referee shocking for both teams. Donaghmore got some very handy frees in first half then Dungannon got them second half
The advantage rule is a nightmare and the referee application of it differs from game to game.
Sometimes they pull it back, sometimes they let it go with (no advantage accruing) - crazy.
Today, referee gave arm up signal in the second half for Dungannon, player played on and played great pass to a player on edge of the D. Ref pulls it back to outside the 45' !!!
Then the Grimes one as mentioned above was poor decision as well at a vital part of the game
Hopefully he is not refereeing a league game tomorrow somewhere - he blew every bit of contact all day long - stop start and no flow to the game at all
Quote from: God14 on January 29, 2024, 01:47:29 PMBoth Academy midfielders were excellent - Hughes was a prominent threat, reliable from frees, but i thought their No. 9 was even better. Cant mind his name now. Lost count of how many clean kick outs he won, always an outlet on the Academy kickouts. Liam McGeary showed very well too in the SPAD attackHughes has a fantastic strike on him for free kicks. Massive asset having a player who can do that. He played the majority of the game as full forward, so disagree with his impact at midfield. The number nine Dillon O'Neill had a very good game but shades of Holy Trinity last year as he is 19 years old playing against players one or two years younger than himself. Grimes is a great prospect but he will have better days on the football field, his 1-01 showcased his talent but he was also guilty of some very poor shots throughout the game. Ultimately what cost Donaghmore was the number 15 Corrigan blazing a goal chance over the bar when he had a simple chance to square the ball for a palm to the empty net second half, he puts that across and Donaghmore go three up they would've pushed clear. Joey Clarke the best for Donaghmore, even though the referee was very very harsh on him. CBS have a great chance of back to back MacRory's but they have struggled with teams who have superior size and Dungannon would be quite a bit bigger than Omagh, so 50/50 game.
Agree on Noah Grimes, fantastic prospect. One to watch with Tyrone U20s this year
It was a really enjoyable semi final - especially when you consider that not that long ago, both these sets of players would have in all likelihood have been playing for the Academy. If Omagh CBS do indeed lift this years McRory cup, the emergence of Donaghmore convent taking boys in has cost the Academy a McRory.
Quote from: God14 on January 29, 2024, 01:47:29 PMBoth Academy midfielders were excellent - Hughes was a prominent threat, reliable from frees, but i thought their No. 9 was even better. Cant mind his name now. Lost count of how many clean kick outs he won, always an outlet on the Academy kickouts. Liam McGeary showed very well too in the SPAD attack
Agree on Noah Grimes, fantastic prospect. One to watch with Tyrone U20s this year
It was a really enjoyable semi final - especially when you consider that not that long ago, both these sets of players would have in all likelihood have been playing for the Academy. If Omagh CBS do indeed lift this years McRory cup, the emergence of Donaghmore convent taking boys in has cost the Academy a McRory.
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 29, 2024, 03:02:10 PMQuote from: God14 on January 29, 2024, 01:47:29 PMBoth Academy midfielders were excellent - Hughes was a prominent threat, reliable from frees, but i thought their No. 9 was even better. Cant mind his name now. Lost count of how many clean kick outs he won, always an outlet on the Academy kickouts. Liam McGeary showed very well too in the SPAD attackHughes has a fantastic strike on him for free kicks. Massive asset having a player who can do that. He played the majority of the game as full forward, so disagree with his impact at midfield. The number nine Dillon O'Neill had a very good game but shades of Holy Trinity last year as he is 19 years old playing against players one or two years younger than himself. Grimes is a great prospect but he will have better days on the football field, his 1-01 showcased his talent but he was also guilty of some very poor shots throughout the game. Ultimately what cost Donaghmore was the number 15 Corrigan blazing a goal chance over the bar when he had a simple chance to square the ball for a palm to the empty net second half, he puts that across and Donaghmore go three up they would've pushed clear. Joey Clarke the best for Donaghmore, even though the referee was very very harsh on him. CBS have a great chance of back to back MacRory's but they have struggled with teams who have superior size and Dungannon would be quite a bit bigger than Omagh, so 50/50 game.
Agree on Noah Grimes, fantastic prospect. One to watch with Tyrone U20s this year
It was a really enjoyable semi final - especially when you consider that not that long ago, both these sets of players would have in all likelihood have been playing for the Academy. If Omagh CBS do indeed lift this years McRory cup, the emergence of Donaghmore convent taking boys in has cost the Academy a McRory.
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.
Quote from: johnnycool on January 30, 2024, 12:59:10 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.
12 of the starting 15 were four masters and another 8 in the subs.
Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.
Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.
Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?
Nope - same ages.
There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)
Quote from: johnnycool on February 06, 2024, 05:02:36 PMQuote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.
Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?
Nope - same ages.
There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)
I think it's down as an U19 competition but realistically unless someone is doing a resit most upper 6th or whatever it's called now would be U18.5
Could be the same in the 26, I don't know
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.
Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?
Nope - same ages.
There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.
Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?
Nope - same ages.
There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)
Quote from: Taylor on February 07, 2024, 10:18:15 AMYes,definitely used to be that way, not sure when it was equalised.Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.
Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?
Nope - same ages.
There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)
Maybe my mind is playing tricks but I always thought the rule DIDNT favour Ulster teams and they used to lose players when they went to the Hogan
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 07, 2024, 11:16:50 AMHow heavy are Omagh CBS favoured on Sunday? Are they just edging it or are they expected to win by 4 or 5+?
It's a long time from the Academy made any noise at MacRory, only getting badly beaten in the 2015 final since the great generation from 2008-2011
Quote from: barelegs on February 07, 2024, 12:48:10 PMQuote from: ClubScene13 on February 07, 2024, 11:16:50 AMHow heavy are Omagh CBS favoured on Sunday? Are they just edging it or are they expected to win by 4 or 5+?
It's a long time from the Academy made any noise at MacRory, only getting badly beaten in the 2015 final since the great generation from 2008-2011
Was just thinking about the 2015 final earlier. Academy team had Michael McKernan, Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick, Ciaran Higgins (Armagh) and a number of former county panelists Liam Rafferty, Daniel Kerr, Ryan Coleman and beat a decent Maghera team in the semi final in Ballinderry but didn't turn up for the final.
Omagh probably deserving favourites and have players that have been there and done it. Might be a year early for Dungannon but you never know. This year's Rannafast team would be fancied to make an impression over next two years.
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PMFree state secondary only needs to be 5 years after 8 years primary. That was the norm until probably 10-15 years ago, now majority of secondary is 6 years as they include transition year, which is an additional year thrown in to mess around in and find themselves after junior cert and before the leaving cert syllabus starts - seems like great craic tbfQuote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.
Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?
Nope - same ages.
There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 09, 2024, 09:47:31 AMOmagh's best player a Loughmacrory man for the second year in a row, that's a club making big stridesOmagh's best player is an Omagh man. Callum Daly at Centre Half Back is their best player followed by Ruairi McCullagh, Charlie Donnelly, Eoin Donaghy and Nathan Farry, strong argument could be made that he was also their best player last year. McElholm certainly had the biggest reputation last year but their were a number of players who outperformed him over the course of the season - Owens, Daly, McCullagh, Donnelly, Donaghy, Farry all had better campaigns.
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on February 09, 2024, 10:38:01 AMQuote from: ClubScene13 on February 09, 2024, 09:47:31 AMOmagh's best player a Loughmacrory man for the second year in a row, that's a club making big stridesOmagh's best player is an Omagh man. Callum Daly at Centre Half Back is their best player followed by Ruairi McCullagh, Charlie Donnelly, Eoin Donaghy and Nathan Farry, strong argument could be made that he was also their best player last year. McElholm certainly had the biggest reputation last year but their were a number of players who outperformed him over the course of the season - Owens, Daly, McCullagh, Donnelly, Donaghy, Farry all had better campaigns.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 11, 2024, 03:37:35 PMQuote from: Goals_Will_Come on February 09, 2024, 10:38:01 AMQuote from: ClubScene13 on February 09, 2024, 09:47:31 AMOmagh's best player a Loughmacrory man for the second year in a row, that's a club making big stridesOmagh's best player is an Omagh man. Callum Daly at Centre Half Back is their best player followed by Ruairi McCullagh, Charlie Donnelly, Eoin Donaghy and Nathan Farry, strong argument could be made that he was also their best player last year. McElholm certainly had the biggest reputation last year but their were a number of players who outperformed him over the course of the season - Owens, Daly, McCullagh, Donnelly, Donaghy, Farry all had better campaigns.
Yeah it looks like Ruairi McCullagh from where I'm sitting
Quote from: bennydorano on February 11, 2024, 04:00:40 PMSack that Dan bollix
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 11, 2024, 03:56:59 PMWhere did the commentary go??
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 11, 2024, 05:26:39 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on February 11, 2024, 03:56:59 PMWhere did the commentary go??
Don't know if it was technical difficulties but there seemed to be big periods of silence.
Quote from: bennydorano on February 11, 2024, 06:15:38 PMOmagh pulled away at the end but I didn't think they were streets ahead of Dungannon as Niblock and Morgan constantly were laying on thick, DG got level with about 10 to go then a goalkeeping error let Omagh back in front and really killed DG.
Fair play to young Holmes on the DG side, a great performance,the same lad was carried off in the semi with an injury I thought looked bad (obviously not that bad). The other wing back Neeson had a great game too, but you could have driven a bus down the Dungannon CHB channel for most of the game. Overall i thought it was a quality contest but still plenty of mistakes from both sides.
Quote from: trailer on February 12, 2024, 09:15:47 AMQuote from: bennydorano on February 11, 2024, 06:15:38 PMOmagh pulled away at the end but I didn't think they were streets ahead of Dungannon as Niblock and Morgan constantly were laying on thick, DG got level with about 10 to go then a goalkeeping error let Omagh back in front and really killed DG.
Fair play to young Holmes on the DG side, a great performance,the same lad was carried off in the semi with an injury I thought looked bad (obviously not that bad). The other wing back Neeson had a great game too, but you could have driven a bus down the Dungannon CHB channel for most of the game. Overall i thought it was a quality contest but still plenty of mistakes from both sides.
Good game. Felt Dgn def closer but the goal they conceded was a killer. Holmes probably best on show for Dgn with 6 also putting in a good shift. Young McKeown(?) from Ardboe no. 12 had a good game as well. Dgn missed a open goal in 1st half and that might have put a different complexion on the game.
Omagh have some very talented lads. 6 definitely one for the future. 8 also had an excellent game. They worked the same kickout over and over and Dgn still couldn't stop it. Picked off their points well.
If you put those two teams and Donaghmore together there is some talent in Tyrone. Hopefully the county can bring them through.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 11, 2024, 03:59:57 PMEmbarrassing from BBCSNI from start to finish here.Maybe its the move from St Patricks day for the MacRory cup but whole BBC presentation and build up was poor. Having been so good in the past at previewing and covering the final, how and why has the ball been dropped. This used to be a live TV event..
Quote from: Onthe40 on February 12, 2024, 10:22:41 AMDecent game, Omagh always looked as if they were in control despite the goal chances Dungannon had which should've been taken and could've very much changed the outcome
Dungannon scoring threat was bit limited up front
Though you'd have to think their in with a big shout in the next few years with the good rannafast Squad coming through and the strong 4th year squad below that
though that is no guarantee as it was interesting to hear that particular Omagh year group won nothing the whole way through their school journey until now
Omagh though could begin to dominate now with the catchment area they have and a non academic path into the school available.. Dungannon, Cookstown, Donaghmore now pulling from same area and ballygawley pulling in lads too that maybe previously went to dungannon
Overall though the tyrone schools are getting better
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 04:05:14 PMListening to that podcast and you hear the numbers etc. 85 looking to get in the squad - mad amount. Also the setup sounds incredibly professional and probably is in a lo of other schools too. Shows you what the schools who aren't competing need to do and what they are up against.
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 04:23:07 PMThe GAA social. They interviewed 3 omagh boys (at a bit of length) and had a long enough interview with the Omagh coach McNulty.
Quote from: rrhf on February 12, 2024, 01:16:27 PMThe team lineouts displayed over a soccer graphic has become a favourite of mine as of late ;DQuote from: ClubScene13 on February 11, 2024, 03:59:57 PMEmbarrassing from BBCSNI from start to finish here.Maybe its the move from St Patricks day for the MacRory cup but whole BBC presentation and build up was poor. Having been so good in the past at previewing and covering the final, how and why has the ball been dropped. This used to be a live TV event..
Quote from: Onthe40 on February 12, 2024, 10:22:41 AMthough that is no guarantee as it was interesting to hear that particular Omagh year group won nothing the whole way through their school journey until nowMaghera won D'alton, Corn Na Nog and Rannafast in this particular year group. Omagh were beat in the CNN final by Maghera. Believe it was Cavan and Macartans that lost in the other respective finals.
Quote from: bannside on February 12, 2024, 06:50:56 PMTyrone schools football at an all time high. Must be serious work going on in clubs, then schools pick up the mantle in year 8.The Dean managed a Markey cup last year and were competing in grade 1 on down the years reaching the Dalton (?) final.
Holy Trinity & St Joseph's Donaghmore both stepping up in recent years too...
Only show in town amongst the bushes...fair play.
Quote from: bannside on February 12, 2024, 06:50:56 PMTyrone schools football at an all time high. Must be serious work going on in clubs, then schools pick up the mantle in year 8.Undoubtedly. Though it's important not to forget the influences these lads are experiencing in their homes, where a Gaelic Games culture is being instilled into them and where succeeding on the Gaelic football field is highly valued.
Holy Trinity & St Joseph's Donaghmore both stepping up in recent years too...
Only show in town amongst the bushes...fair play.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 13, 2024, 12:40:28 AMDo Trillick players now go to Omagh? Was there not a history of them going to Enniskillen? Think the Donnelly's n Brennan's went there?
If so is this something Tyrone GAA are pushing. Keeping players within the county? St Pius' doesn't seem to attract loughshore players like it once used to. All seem to go to Holy Trinity now.
Quote from: trailer on February 13, 2024, 08:51:47 AMTrillick seems to be a case of families having a preference for certain schools. I think the Corry lads on last year's Tyrone minor panel this year went to Enniskillen like their fathers.Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 13, 2024, 12:40:28 AMDo Trillick players now go to Omagh? Was there not a history of them going to Enniskillen? Think the Donnelly's n Brennan's went there?
If so is this something Tyrone GAA are pushing. Keeping players within the county? St Pius' doesn't seem to attract loughshore players like it once used to. All seem to go to Holy Trinity now.
Dunno if it that sort of conscious decision at 11 years old. Schools can go through popularity cycles. I know where I live it fluctuates between SPAD and Armagh. Certainly Omagh winning back to back MacRory will have done them no harm in attracting children interested in football.
Someone said it above it is the parents who start the love of the game. But Schools and Clubs are doing fantastic work bringing them on.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on February 13, 2024, 10:45:54 AMOmagh's catchment area has been pretty constant over the generations, but it hasn't been diminished in the last 20 years by the newer/ambitious/rival schools.
It's a big school but not huge like St Columb's Derry.
St Michael's Enniskillen has equally wide catchment.
Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on February 13, 2024, 11:04:01 AMI think he moved from St Ciarans in 6th yearQuote from: Aaron Boone on February 13, 2024, 10:45:54 AMOmagh's catchment area has been pretty constant over the generations, but it hasn't been diminished in the last 20 years by the newer/ambitious/rival schools.
It's a big school but not huge like St Columb's Derry.
St Michael's Enniskillen has equally wide catchment.
CBS feels like its getting smaller if anything? The last two panels have had nobody from Errigal Ciaran etc. While during the noughties I remember a lot of players from that area. Ronan McRroy and Peter Harte captained them in finals. I think Harte's team had 6 or 7 Errigal lads. Where are they going? St Ciarán's haven't been tearing up any trees in the period in-between.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 12, 2024, 10:56:32 PMQuote from: bannside on February 12, 2024, 06:50:56 PMTyrone schools football at an all time high. Must be serious work going on in clubs, then schools pick up the mantle in year 8.Undoubtedly. Though it's important not to forget the influences these lads are experiencing in their homes, where a Gaelic Games culture is being instilled into them and where succeeding on the Gaelic football field is highly valued.
Holy Trinity & St Joseph's Donaghmore both stepping up in recent years too...
Only show in town amongst the bushes...fair play.
It's often overlooked but without it, the clubs and schools can find themselves behind the black ball before they begin. It is the vital cog.
Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on February 13, 2024, 11:04:01 AMMcNulty said they had 86 at trials then cut it to 45 initially so must be doing ok.Quote from: Aaron Boone on February 13, 2024, 10:45:54 AMOmagh's catchment area has been pretty constant over the generations, but it hasn't been diminished in the last 20 years by the newer/ambitious/rival schools.
It's a big school but not huge like St Columb's Derry.
St Michael's Enniskillen has equally wide catchment.
CBS feels like its getting smaller if anything? The last two panels have had nobody from Errigal Ciaran etc. While during the noughties I remember a lot of players from that area. Ronan McRroy and Peter Harte captained them in finals. I think Harte's team had 6 or 7 Errigal lads. Where are they going? St Ciarán's haven't been tearing up any trees in the period in-between.
Quote from: Onthe40 on March 01, 2024, 04:01:44 PMOmagh beat Dungannon in the McGrath semi today, into another final..... jet
Quote from: lurganblue on March 01, 2024, 04:09:01 PMQuote from: Onthe40 on March 01, 2024, 04:01:44 PMOmagh beat Dungannon in the McGrath semi today, into another final..... jet
Omagh is the strongest at that age group. The play a decent Abbey team in the final but they'd be expected to win.
Quote from: yellowcard on March 16, 2024, 01:10:21 PMOmagh going for back to back Hogan Cups today would be a big achievement for an Ulster school. Live on TG4 3.00pm.
Quote from: snoopdog on March 16, 2024, 02:54:55 PMMaghera also 89 90.Quote from: yellowcard on March 16, 2024, 01:10:21 PMOmagh going for back to back Hogan Cups today would be a big achievement for an Ulster school. Live on TG4 3.00pm.
St Colmans did it 2010, 2011.
Quote from: bennydorano on March 15, 2024, 09:12:05 PMWhat year / age group is Dalton Cup these days? I see St Pats Armagh in the semi v Colmans. Cavan v Maghera the other.
Quote from: gallsman on March 16, 2024, 04:02:12 PMOmagh playing all the football and only a point up at the half. Stupid fool for the black card.They have been playing against 16 men the entire first half
Quote from: RedHand2022 on March 16, 2024, 04:07:20 PMQuote from: gallsman on March 16, 2024, 04:02:12 PMOmagh playing all the football and only a point up at the half. Stupid fool for the black card.They have been playing against 16 men the entire first half
Quote from: smort on April 09, 2024, 10:34:38 PMIs the all-star team still decided by trial matches?
Just seen the team posted there and no players from Omagh, Dungannon or Donaghmore
Quote from: Kidder81 on April 09, 2024, 10:44:38 PMI'm sure the argument is that good players on shit teams may get overlooked. Sore on boys that have a good campaign but have a poor trial.Quote from: smort on April 09, 2024, 10:34:38 PMIs the all-star team still decided by trial matches?
Just seen the team posted there and no players from Omagh, Dungannon or Donaghmore
Yeah, well the hurling definitely is & I assume the football is the same. They are a nonsense
Quote from: bennydorano on April 09, 2024, 11:43:36 PMThere were 2 x trials days with 60 students from Colleges at A,B & C grades at it, think 4 per school are invited. The 2nd trial took place the Wed after the Hogan. Tony Scullion in charge.
Quote from: square_ball on April 10, 2024, 08:18:20 AMPerhaps a mix of trials and actual performances would be a better system to pick the team. Omagh are back to back MacRory and Hogan Cup winners and have had 1 all star in the last 2 years. Daly and McCullagh missing out on all stars shows the current system doesn't work.
Quote from: bennydorano on April 09, 2024, 11:43:36 PMThere were 2 x trials days with 60 students from Colleges at A,B & C grades at it, think 4 per school are invited. The 2nd trial took place the Wed after the Hogan. Tony Scullion in charge.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 10, 2024, 07:22:28 PMThe first trial was the Wednesday before.
I think you do the first and get a call back for the second.
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 10, 2024, 08:06:16 PMIn the hurling you had to make the cut from the first trial to make the second, I'm sure the football is the same.
I know the first hurling trial was just a few days after St Killians All Ireland win. Maybe they could look at weighting it between performances in games, adjudicated by Ulster Colleges staff, and trial games at the end of the year. Especially when there are UCAS points now involved for the students.