McKenna Cup 2024

[Franko]

Calling players cowards is slightly different from your hate filled comment regarding the issues that McCarron has had to deal with over the last year or so? That has ZERO place on this board. Mc Carrons private life shouldn't be brought up here?

It wasn't exactly private now was it.  Plus you've given ten times as much airtime as my initial jibe.

Calling people cowards should have no place on a GAA discussion forum either.

Typical Tyrone attitude, I'll throw out all the insults I like, but I reserve the right to get very offended when someone insults me.

Exactly, if this was a player from another county tyrone posters would be all over it with none too subtle digs and insulting comments. Its the same on the pitch, if he had to play against tyrone they would target him hard with hate filled comments from the first minute to the last. Its just as well for him he doesnt have to come up against tyrone.

Just to clarify? Has any Tyrone poster ever brought the private life of a player into the discussion regarding a match? You seem fairly confident about this, so I'm sure you wouldn't mind putting up a few examples. McCarron isn't the only player who has had to deal with personal problems so I'm sure there must be loads of evidence on here of Tyrone lads making subtle digs and insulting comments for you to choose from.

A Tyrone poster called a few Derry players by name and basically said they were all cowards.  Now, if you walked up to a guy in a bar and called him a coward, you'd be very likely to get a slap in the mouth.  Why?  Because it's an insult.  Now, you posters have to make your choice.  Either you have no insults at all, or anything goes.  I'm cool with either.  What's not cool is you guys getting all 'holier than thou' because someone gave one of your guys a dig, right after one of your own posters has done the exact same.  If McCarron was a Derry player, you guys would have a field day.  It's your way.  That was proven by the actions of your minors towards young Carroll in Donegal.

Ive looked back through the thread. I'm genuinely being serious here, I can't find the 'coward' comment that upset you so much that you thought it appropriate to bring insults about a players private life into the discussion as retaliation? Can you repost it so we know what your talking about?

Your poster named players, made some remark about them not being manly enough and then proceeded to describe them as 'lying down con men'. I took that as meaning cowardly (forgive me, but I think it was a fair summation of the comment).  However, by any barometer, it would pass the test of being an insult.  And as for the 'bit of craic' there was far more humour in my comment than in most of the others. (IMO of course). But if you can excuse these comments as being a 'bit of craic' then fair enough, sure I'll say that's what I was at too and we'll all get along grand.

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

To be clear omagh joe,you still ever maintain McCann went down from a hair pull?

No... unless in jest, which im pretty sure i clarified. I just focused on the foul in the incident.

This incident tho was clearly an accidental collision. If you watch McCann, I dont think he even looked at Rodgers once, before, during or even afterwards. If you focus on Rodgers obviously it looks like he was just standing there minding his own business and someone comes in elbows him in the face so it looks deliberate. But if you look at the whole thing its fairly obvious it was an accident.

You may be correct. But it is also possible that McCann should still have seen red because the challenge was reckless. I am not sure of the rules in this regard however.

Then you either need to read back through this thread or read the official rule book. A clear red card by any interpretation of the rules.

[BennyHarp]

Calling players cowards is slightly different from your hate filled comment regarding the issues that McCarron has had to deal with over the last year or so? That has ZERO place on this board. Mc Carrons private life shouldn't be brought up here?

It wasn't exactly private now was it.  Plus you've given ten times as much airtime as my initial jibe.

Calling people cowards should have no place on a GAA discussion forum either.

Typical Tyrone attitude, I'll throw out all the insults I like, but I reserve the right to get very offended when someone insults me.

Exactly, if this was a player from another county tyrone posters would be all over it with none too subtle digs and insulting comments. Its the same on the pitch, if he had to play against tyrone they would target him hard with hate filled comments from the first minute to the last. Its just as well for him he doesnt have to come up against tyrone.

Just to clarify? Has any Tyrone poster ever brought the private life of a player into the discussion regarding a match? You seem fairly confident about this, so I'm sure you wouldn't mind putting up a few examples. McCarron isn't the only player who has had to deal with personal problems so I'm sure there must be loads of evidence on here of Tyrone lads making subtle digs and insulting comments for you to choose from.

A Tyrone poster called a few Derry players by name and basically said they were all cowards.  Now, if you walked up to a guy in a bar and called him a coward, you'd be very likely to get a slap in the mouth.  Why?  Because it's an insult.  Now, you posters have to make your choice.  Either you have no insults at all, or anything goes.  I'm cool with either.  What's not cool is you guys getting all 'holier than thou' because someone gave one of your guys a dig, right after one of your own posters has done the exact same.  If McCarron was a Derry player, you guys would have a field day.  It's your way.  That was proven by the actions of your minors towards young Carroll in Donegal.

Ive looked back through the thread. I'm genuinely being serious here, I can't find the 'coward' comment that upset you so much that you thought it appropriate to bring insults about a players private life into the discussion as retaliation? Can you repost it so we know what your talking about?

Your poster named players, made some remark about them not being manly enough and then proceeded to describe them as 'lying down con men'. I took that as meaning cowardly (forgive me, but I think it was a fair summation of the comment).  However, by any barometer, it would pass the test of being an insult.  And as for the 'bit of craic' there was far more humour in my comment than in most of the others. (IMO of course). But if you can excuse these comments as being a 'bit of craic' then fair enough, sure I'll say that's what I was at too and we'll all get along grand.

You see, I'd look at the phrase "lying down con men " and say he was calling them cheats rather than cowards. 😜  But to be fair, I'd say that's a comment about their on field behaviour though and I don't think he's inferring that they are cheats in their private life.

[ziggysego]

Admin, lock this thread. It's getting out of hand. The hatred, the sly digs and questioning of player's characters.

It's not nice.

[omaghjoe]

Admin, lock this thread. It's getting out of hand. The hatred, the sly digs and questioning of player's characters.

It's not nice.

Cmon Ziggy you should have learned by now that nobody believes your admin denials

[cadhlancian]

I reported the comment

[LeoMc]

Calling players cowards is slightly different from your hate filled comment regarding the issues that McCarron has had to deal with over the last year or so? That has ZERO place on this board. Mc Carrons private life shouldn't be brought up here?

It wasn't exactly private now was it.  Plus you've given ten times as much airtime as my initial jibe.

Calling people cowards should have no place on a GAA discussion forum either.

Typical Tyrone attitude, I'll throw out all the insults I like, but I reserve the right to get very offended when someone insults me.

Exactly, if this was a player from another county tyrone posters would be all over it with none too subtle digs and insulting comments. Its the same on the pitch, if he had to play against tyrone they would target him hard with hate filled comments from the first minute to the last. Its just as well for him he doesnt have to come up against tyrone.

Just to clarify? Has any Tyrone poster ever brought the private life of a player into the discussion regarding a match? You seem fairly confident about this, so I'm sure you wouldn't mind putting up a few examples. McCarron isn't the only player who has had to deal with personal problems so I'm sure there must be loads of evidence on here of Tyrone lads making subtle digs and insulting comments for you to choose from.

A Tyrone poster called a few Derry players by name and basically said they were all cowards.  Now, if you walked up to a guy in a bar and called him a coward, you'd be very likely to get a slap in the mouth.  Why?  Because it's an insult.  Now, you posters have to make your choice.  Either you have no insults at all, or anything goes.  I'm cool with either.  What's not cool is you guys getting all 'holier than thou' because someone gave one of your guys a dig, right after one of your own posters has done the exact same.  If McCarron was a Derry player, you guys would have a field day.  It's your way.  That was proven by the actions of your minors towards young Carroll in Donegal.

Yer a great man in your own wee world. 2 massive leaps in the one retort.

[LeoMc]

Calling players cowards is slightly different from your hate filled comment regarding the issues that McCarron has had to deal with over the last year or so? That has ZERO place on this board. Mc Carrons private life shouldn't be brought up here?

It wasn't exactly private now was it.  Plus you've given ten times as much airtime as my initial jibe.

Calling people cowards should have no place on a GAA discussion forum either.

Typical Tyrone attitude, I'll throw out all the insults I like, but I reserve the right to get very offended when someone insults me.

Exactly, if this was a player from another county tyrone posters would be all over it with none too subtle digs and insulting comments. Its the same on the pitch, if he had to play against tyrone they would target him hard with hate filled comments from the first minute to the last. Its just as well for him he doesnt have to come up against tyrone.

That is the most honest and correct assumption I have ever read on this board.

In the whole 3 weeks you have been here under this current under this current alias after getting laughed off at your previous attempts at being  WUM??

Fixed that for you.

[No wides]

Calling players cowards is slightly different from your hate filled comment regarding the issues that McCarron has had to deal with over the last year or so? That has ZERO place on this board. Mc Carrons private life shouldn't be brought up here?

It wasn't exactly private now was it.  Plus you've given ten times as much airtime as my initial jibe.

Calling people cowards should have no place on a GAA discussion forum either.

Typical Tyrone attitude, I'll throw out all the insults I like, but I reserve the right to get very offended when someone insults me.

Exactly, if this was a player from another county tyrone posters would be all over it with none too subtle digs and insulting comments. Its the same on the pitch, if he had to play against tyrone they would target him hard with hate filled comments from the first minute to the last. Its just as well for him he doesnt have to come up against tyrone.

That is the most honest and correct assumption I have ever read on this board.

In the whole 3 weeks you have been here??

I am not a member of the Irish News and I read it every day.

[Keyser soze]

The comments about a players private life are completely out of order. How anyone could come out with that on this board and purport to be a GAA fan is beyond belief. I'm ashamed that a supposed Derry supporter could firstly say this and then defend themselves by claiming the Tyrone supporters would do the same if the situation was reversed.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Calling players cowards is slightly different from your hate filled comment regarding the issues that McCarron has had to deal with over the last year or so? That has ZERO place on this board. Mc Carrons private life shouldn't be brought up here?

It wasn't exactly private now was it.  Plus you've given ten times as much airtime as my initial jibe.

Calling people cowards should have no place on a GAA discussion forum either.

Typical Tyrone attitude, I'll throw out all the insults I like, but I reserve the right to get very offended when someone insults me.

Exactly, if this was a player from another county tyrone posters would be all over it with none too subtle digs and insulting comments. Its the same on the pitch, if he had to play against tyrone they would target him hard with hate filled comments from the first minute to the last. Its just as well for him he doesnt have to come up against tyrone.

Just to clarify? Has any Tyrone poster ever brought the private life of a player into the discussion regarding a match? You seem fairly confident about this, so I'm sure you wouldn't mind putting up a few examples. McCarron isn't the only player who has had to deal with personal problems so I'm sure there must be loads of evidence on here of Tyrone lads making subtle digs and insulting comments for you to choose from.

A Tyrone poster called a few Derry players by name and basically said they were all cowards.  Now, if you walked up to a guy in a bar and called him a coward, you'd be very likely to get a slap in the mouth.  Why?  Because it's an insult.  Now, you posters have to make your choice.  Either you have no insults at all, or anything goes.  I'm cool with either.  What's not cool is you guys getting all 'holier than thou' because someone gave one of your guys a dig, right after one of your own posters has done the exact same.  If McCarron was a Derry player, you guys would have a field day.  It's your way.  That was proven by the actions of your minors towards young Carroll in Donegal.

Ive looked back through the thread. I'm genuinely being serious here, I can't find the 'coward' comment that upset you so much that you thought it appropriate to bring insults about a players private life into the discussion as retaliation? Can you repost it so we know what your talking about?

Your poster named players, made some remark about them not being manly enough and then proceeded to describe them as 'lying down con men'. I took that as meaning cowardly (forgive me, but I think it was a fair summation of the comment).  However, by any barometer, it would pass the test of being an insult.  And as for the 'bit of craic' there was far more humour in my comment than in most of the others. (IMO of course). But if you can excuse these comments as being a 'bit of craic' then fair enough, sure I'll say that's what I was at too and we'll all get along grand.

You're a fuckwit.

The Tyrone minors were cleared of the allegations labelled against them in a report where the findings were accepted by both parties. Yet you still find it necessary to throw mud at them?

God help you if Derry ever become a force again where their actions will be under the microscope simply because they're a team from the O6 who have the establishment counties running scared. The misrepresentation and slurring of Tyrone for any incident they have been involved in is getting ridiculous at this stage.

If I was Derry I'd be more worried about the fact that your side engaged in the dark arts on Saturday night, instigating two melees in the closing stages of the game, diving to get a Tyrone player sent off, kicking the ball away to thwart a kickout and yet still couldn't see it out against 13 men.

You got your just desserts.

[general_lee]

The establishment counties?

[Il Bomber Destro]

The establishment counties?

The likes of Dublin and Kerry whose indiscretions are swiftly swept under the rug. Could you imagine Tyrone or Armagh were involved in two separate biting allegations in a couple of years? Or a Tyrone and Armagh player failed a drug test after an All Ireland final?

[general_lee]

An armagh player bate lumps out of a Dublin player last year and it went under the carpet

[Il Bomber Destro]

An armagh player bate lumps out of a Dublin player last year and it went under the carpet

It was a behind closed doors game and the media reporting of matters certainly seemed to portray Armagh as the perpetrators. The facts behind the whole story certainly seem to be much more than that portrayal.

Were you happy with the media reporting of the Armagh Cavan game two years ago and the subsequent portrayals of Armagh that year?