Mayo Season Review 2008 - O'Mahony Confirmed for Another Year

[orangeman]

Who else wants the job ?? Better men than Johnno have been there and failed !

[the Deel Rover]

Who else wants the job ?? Better men than Johnno have been there and failed !

do you not rate o'mahony Orangeman ?

[orangeman]

Who else wants the job ?? Better men than Johnno have been there and failed !

do you not rate o'mahony Orangeman ?

I would have done but I think he has lost it - this whole thing with FG seems to have changed him  /  his approach -

He doesn't seem to have the same enthusiasm for the job anymore ??  I could be wrong !

[the Deel Rover]

Who else wants the job ?? Better men than Johnno have been there and failed !

do you not rate o'mahony Orangeman ?

I would have done but I think he has lost it - this whole thing with FG seems to have changed him  /  his approach -

He doesn't seem to have the same enthusiasm for the job anymore ??  I could be wrong !

a lot of people would agree with you

[OirthearMhaigheo]

Who else wants the job ?? Better men than Johnno have been there and failed !

do you not rate o'mahony Orangeman ?

I would have done but I think he has lost it - this whole thing with FG seems to have changed him  /  his approach -

He doesn't seem to have the same enthusiasm for the job anymore ??  I could be wrong !

a lot of people would agree with you

I hope you're wrong lads, but I would have to agree that mad desire he had 10 years ago doesn't quite seem to be there at the moment. If he does take the job on for next year he will have to make sure he 100% feels he can do the job to the best of his abilities, if not he should walk away as the team will not benefit and neither will his reputation. However, if he does have the hunger and can fit the 2 jobs into his hectic schedule then I still think he is the best man for the job.

[stephenite]

Who else wants the job ?? Better men than Johnno have been there and failed !

Who are these better men? 

[Davitt Man]

Who else wants the job ?? Better men than Johnno have been there and failed !

Who are these better men? 

I was a big fan of Johno but since he took the mayo job i have lost faith in him, he has made one bad call after the next. He came into the job saying he would be re-building the panel yet he gave the captaincy to Kev O'Neill who was 34??. The list goes on and on

[Bomber2312]

I think Johnno found himself in a tough spot...we can comment all we want but we dont see what goes on in training and we dont know the roles that players are asked to perform.

Everyone knows mayos problem positions, o mahoney has tried to plus these holes but unfortunately it has not worked out for one reason or another.

Full forward, many people called for his inclusion....he got his chance and he yet again didnt take it, but lets not forget he is not the first choice for this postion, Barry Moran had the makings of a good target man, we await his return to see if it really works out! O Mahoney cannot be blamed for the injury so O'Mahoney was forced to go with Austie who earned his position with good performances in the league.

Centre Back, Well Howley is the man that hopefully can take the reigns or maybe tom cunniffe......it remains to be seen, howleys injury and cunniffes youth can not be blamed on the manager, combine this with Kilcullen opting out!

Midfield MacGarrity and Parsons are looking like they could be a decent partnership....Mac still hasnt regained form after illness and parsons is still young...Seamus o Shea and Pat harte wait in the wings

Full back -- u cant turn water into wine and we have no natural full back, many have been tried but no one has impressed, the manager is doomed if he does, doomed if he doesnt...if he left kilcullen in for last years championship after being roasted in the league final, it would have got it in the neck for not readin the warning signs, now he's gettin it for not including him when in reality kilcullen took the hump after the withdrawal.  Billy Joe injured...conroy got roasted....is the mangaer to hastey to discard or is he just seeing the lad cant cut it at that position so doesnt consider him?

Through injuries to key players and giving lads the chance to succeed we have taken a few losses....reallity is he is trying to build a new team but when the young players are roasted who else does he turn too, the old reliables, why cos he wants to win as much as the next mayo man.

I have optimism for the future,

Clarke is a premier keeper

the full back line is the line which needs most attention, it would take uncovering one player to make things a lot easier. K Higgins, A higgins, J Nallen......perhaps Cafferley, maybe young mcloughlin from knock more...any others worth a shout?

Half back line is gonna be heaney howley and cunniffe....this was the line throughout the league unfortunately robbed from us through injury

Midfield Mac Garrity and Parsons

Half forwards, Dillion Harte and Mortimer, established as a strong unit (a fit T mort means as much to us as P Galvin)

Ful Forward, Conor is the only certainty, we are missing one more scoring forward, if only for young pearse hanly

we also have good utility footballers such as billy joe, gardiner, a moran.

We are not as far off as some people are thinkin.

I'll keep the faith

[Lar Naparka]

It is very interesting indeed to note the body language when you read what Johnno had to say about his possible third year at the helm and also what Sean Feeney had to say in reply.
First, O'Mahony says something like. "My future is not up to me; it is the call of the county board to either back me or sack me. If it has no confidence in me, I will walk away."
Not one word of enthusiasm for the task in hand and not a dicky about plans for the future either. Does he feel another year under him will be better or worse for the state of Mayo football? We probably will never know as he isn't about to tell us.

What Feeney really said in reply was:
"We won't break our side of the agreement. He's there and if the f**ker wants to stay on he can do so. It's his decision one way or the other. Probably he can't do any worse than he's been doing fore the last two years and anyway we're getting quite a bad reputation for kicking managers out; however, if he can take a hint, he should do so"
Who will make the next move?

[Fenway]

Ah lads only 1 person can bring peace and harmony to the Mayo Set up and thats someone from the other side of the fence - BEV for Manager !

And now Back to the beer !

[stephenite]

Who else wants the job ?? Better men than Johnno have been there and failed !

Who are these better men? 

I was a big fan of Johno but since he took the mayo job i have lost faith in him, he has made one bad call after the next. He came into the job saying he would be re-building the panel yet he gave the captaincy to Kev O'Neill who was 34??. The list goes on and on

Was just interested in Orangeman's choice of words - who are proven better managers than Johnno (ie) All winning managers that have managed Mayo? There is no one with his track record that's for sure so I just wondered why he thinks that better men than Johnno have failed. They've all failed but why are some better than Johnno?

[rosnarun]

Yes they have, I can only speak for myself but JOM is doing ok with the talent available to him and that is all that can be asked of him. Mayo have no Fullback, centre back (though Howley may be good), an ok midfield (and you were missing the main ball winner V Tyrone) and no full forward. And none of the forwards is a really top class score getter like Paddy Bradley/Mattie Ford/Stevie O'Neill/Gooch etc.

where please show me. the attitude here now seems to be 'were fucked any way might as well let him stay'.
who would i drop from the dublin team for mayo players? how about the mighty Kevin bonner, the magnificent D Connolly, or little tommy quinn and put in BJP Alan dillion or conor mortimor even pat harte on a good day , do you seriously think that would weaken the dublin team?
as for kerry kinda of hard to argue much against a team on the rise going for a 3 in a row. very few players from any other county would foce their way onto that team at the moment. only possible MINOR weak spot from play would be donnacha walsh but i wouldn't be looking look past paul galvin or Eoin Brosnan if i were to replace him. this is whi we are measuring ourselves against but remember they lost to cork and i'd defintly fancy mayo's chances there.
It just take a good manager to bring it all together . and JOM is not that man. he seems to feel he was forced to take the job lets ease him of the burden

[Bod Mor]

I think JOM should take David Brady under his wing next year with a view of taking over full time in the long run. I think DB would make a fine manager.

[stephenite]

I think JOM should take David Brady under his wing next year with a view of taking over full time in the long run. I think DB would make a fine manager.

Sensible words - but you'll be hung for that. 

I feel that whilst the likes of DB and Jimmy Nallen could be good managers eventually you really need someone with a proven track record to manage Senior Inter county teams. Whether they cut their teeth with underage county team a la Jack O Connor and Mickey Harte or prove themselves at Senior club level doesn't really matter but they do need more experience than a year as a selector with Johnno or someone else.

I also feel that the Connelly/Holmes combination will be our next management team no matter what happens.

[Tubberman]

It is very interesting indeed to note the body language when you read what Johnno had to say about his possible third year at the helm and also what Sean Feeney had to say in reply.
First, O'Mahony says something like. "My future is not up to me; it is the call of the county board to either back me or sack me. If it has no confidence in me, I will walk away."
Not one word of enthusiasm for the task in hand and not a dicky about plans for the future either. Does he feel another year under him will be better or worse for the state of Mayo football? We probably will never know as he isn't about to tell us.

What Feeney really said in reply was:
"We won't break our side of the agreement. He's there and if the f**ker wants to stay on he can do so. It's his decision one way or the other. Probably he can't do any worse than he's been doing fore the last two years and anyway we're getting quite a bad reputation for kicking managers out; however, if he can take a hint, he should do so"
Who will make the next move?

No Lar, that's not really what either of them said. You've made up a story there, we can all do that if we want. You've just taken a quote from a newspaper/website and decided that it really meant something else.