Leinster Championship Rankings

Started by Dinny Breen, June 09, 2008, 12:36:24 PM

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Dinny Breen

1. Dublin

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Big Gap

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2. Laois
3. Wexford
4. WestMeath
5. Meath

Nothing betweeen these teams and either could beat the other on any given day

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6. Wicklow
7. Longford
8. Offaly
9. Kildare
10. Louth

Likewise on any given day games between these 5 would be very tight but just not consistent enough to compete with the top 5

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11. Carlow

Leinster really has evolved into a 4 tier structure and the gap between tiers really isn't doing Leinster football any favours.  Dublin are the only team in the province with any real ambitions of an All-Ireland whereas you look at the other provinces and each province has at least 2 serious All-Ireland contenders and if any of the 2nd tier Leinster counties competed in another province how many of those would you expect to be realistically challenging for an Ulster, Connacht or Munster title. It's 7 years since a Leinster team has been in an All-Ireland final, 2001 but only 7 years ago Kildare and Offaly were able to compete with and regularly beat Dublin and Meath, today they are pale shadows of themsleves. What is going wrong with Leinster football or like all things in life is this just a cyclical phase?

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his holiness nb

Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 09, 2008, 12:36:24 PM
Dublin are the only team in the province with any real ambitions of an All-Ireland

Now Dinny, if you were a Dub saying that you would be accused of arrogance  ;)

Honestly I think Dublin have a long way to go to win Leinster this year.
Westmeath will be a huge step up from Louth, and Laois or Wexford could well turn us over in the final.
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Billys Boots

I think Dinny is spot-on for once, it must be the brains he got with fatherhood.  You'll be getting them too shortly, I believe, Holiness; that will be an ease to us all too.   :P
My hands are stained with thistle milk ...

Uladh


I think Meath are every bit as good as the dubs and better this year. they were caught on the hop by wexford. i'd fancy meath to be the last leinster team to be still in the championship

his holiness nb

Quote from: Billys Boots on June 09, 2008, 01:25:50 PM
I think Dinny is spot-on for once, it must be the brains he got with fatherhood.  You'll be getting them too shortly, I believe, Holiness; that will be an ease to us all too.   :P

;)

On a side note, credit to her holiness, due in 2 weeks and refused the disabled lift to the upper cusack yesterday, ramps all the way!
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Jinxy

Quote from: Uladh on June 09, 2008, 01:28:13 PM

I think Meath are every bit as good as the dubs and better this year. they were caught on the hop by wexford. i'd fancy meath to be the last leinster team to be still in the championship

Good man yourself. I think so too but I can't say it out loud or I get Vietnam-style flashbacks to the last 20 minutes in Dr Cullen Park. :'(
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Billys Boots

QuoteOn a side note, credit to her holiness, due in 2 weeks and refused the disabled lift to the upper cusack yesterday, ramps all the way!

Sadly, there's no guarantee of brains with motherhood.  I'll get me coat.   ::)
My hands are stained with thistle milk ...

his holiness nb

Quote from: Billys Boots on June 09, 2008, 01:46:48 PM
QuoteOn a side note, credit to her holiness, due in 2 weeks and refused the disabled lift to the upper cusack yesterday, ramps all the way!

Sadly, there's no guarantee of brains with motherhood.  I'll get me coat.   ::)

Oi, I'll be asking you to step outside if you keep that up !
Ask me holy bollix

Billys Boots

Sorry Holiness, just ribbing.  I know you're probably sensitive about fathering a Meath-person.   :P
My hands are stained with thistle milk ...

his holiness nb

Quote from: Billys Boots on June 09, 2008, 01:57:21 PM
Sorry Holiness, just ribbing.  I know you're probably sensitive about fathering a Meath-person.   :P

right OUTSIDE!!!  >:( >:( >:(

;)
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Hound

Quote from: Uladh on June 09, 2008, 01:28:13 PM

I think Meath are every bit as good as the dubs and better this year. they were caught on the hop by wexford. i'd fancy meath to be the last leinster team to be still in the championship
I'd largely agree with that. Dubs are still slightly ahead of them at the moment, but Meath are coming, and I'd be very surprised if they are not in the quarter-final draw.

Also on any given day, Laois, Wexford, Westmeath would be capable of beating the dubs if they had a good day and forced the Dubs to have a below par day.

thejuice

Quote from: his holiness nb on June 09, 2008, 02:06:28 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on June 09, 2008, 01:57:21 PM
Sorry Holiness, just ribbing.  I know you're probably sensitive about fathering a Meath-person.   :P

right OUTSIDE!!!  >:( >:( >:(

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Yeah, Be sure to get him/her a nice green jersey, wouldnt want them to be the odd one out starting school
It won't be the next manager but the one after that Meath will become competitive again - MO'D 2016

Jinxy

I think this year will definitely signal the end of Dublins Leinster dominance. But I think they can win the All-Ireland and a few lads might retire on the back of it.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Dinny Breen

Ah the Dublin lads been modest and playing down there chances. Meath did well last year but struggled in Division 2 winning only 3 games and honestly can anyone imagine Kerry, Galway, Cork, Derry, Armagh or Tyrone leading Wexford by 10 points with 20 minutes left and losing the game.

The Dubs are fearful of been confident in case it gets mis-placed for arrogance and with the general abuse they get here it's hard not to see why they would like to big up other teams. Dublin need a hard Leinster Semi and an even harder Leinster final maybe even lose one, Dublin need to know there best 15 heading into the All-Ireland series and I'm afraid that Leinster mighten help them in that regard.

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I think Meath are every bit as good as the dubs and better this year. they were caught on the hop by wexford. i'd fancy meath to be the last leinster team to be still in the championship

Uladh, you do realise you tipped Kildare to win Leinster, you are slowly becoming Cassandra and eventually even when right no-one will believe your predictions.  :P
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Jinxy

Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 09, 2008, 02:59:26 PM
Ah the Dublin lads been modest and playing down there chances. Meath did well last year but struggled in Division 2 winning only 3 games and honestly can anyone imagine Kerry, Galway, Cork, Derry, Armagh or Tyrone leading Wexford by 10 points with 20 minutes left and losing the game.

The Dubs are fearful of been confident in case it gets mis-placed for arrogance and with the general abuse they get here it's hard not to see why they would like to big up other teams. Dublin need a hard Leinster Semi and an even harder Leinster final maybe even lose one, Dublin need to know there best 15 heading into the All-Ireland series and I'm afraid that Leinster mighten help them in that regard.

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I think Meath are every bit as good as the dubs and better this year. they were caught on the hop by wexford. i'd fancy meath to be the last leinster team to be still in the championship

Uladh, you do realise you tipped Kildare to win Leinster, you are slowly becoming Cassandra and eventually even when right no-one will believe your predictions.  :P


We've never placed much emphasis on the league. We hammered Armagh, yet you would probably hold them up as someone with title aspirations. As for what happened us against Wexford I honestly think the players and management will come out of it all the better for the experience. We were decimated with injuries and suspensions don't forget yet the team we put out still should have beaten Wexford out the gate only for the 20 minute meltdown at the end. If you asked a Dub would he rather face us in a Leinster final or any of the other 2nd tier teams you listed what do you think the answer would be?
If you were any use you'd be playing.