Things that make you go What the F**k?

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playwiththewind1st

Quote from: Deerstalker on June 09, 2026, 02:22:55 PMA big issue, and some people beginning to wake up to it, is consent - it just does not exist in some of these countries that people are leaving.

A women is just a piece of meat to do what you want with. There have been several cases in the last year, with Afghan nationals in particular, where the judge has mentioned this.

It's now the rule on here that you have to back your claims up with some f**king sort of "statistics".

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 09, 2026, 02:03:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2026, 01:54:28 PMThere will always be more crime when there is a spike in immigration, especially from places that have different traditions to the county that they will reside in. It doesn't make it ok or fine though..


Will there?

Again, you can back that up with statistics...?

2Groups facing severe institutional barriers—such as asylum seekers who are barred from working while awaiting claims—have occasionally been linked in localized studies to minor upticks in property crime2.. AI I know, but I'm sure they have pulled it from some study.

People coming to work will not be committing crimes tbf, its illegals that can't work but need them money
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Rossfan

People who apply for asylum are not "illegals"
2026 the year of the 9 Cups

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: playwiththewind1st on June 09, 2026, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 09, 2026, 02:02:48 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on June 09, 2026, 01:44:23 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 09, 2026, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on June 09, 2026, 12:05:34 PM
Quote from: DaleCooper on June 09, 2026, 09:54:50 AMWhy are people shocked?

The politicians are admitting all & sundry, without any papers, so they simply cannot know their country of origin, proper age, criminal background or mental health status.

Anyone who chooses to arrive without any paperwork shouldn't be let in, full stop.

However, judging by the news recently, there are immigrants running around, free as a bird, with paranoid schizophrenia - the Colocane case in Nottingham is absolutely horrendous.

That such people are roaming the streets, with knives, is unacceptable, as government is simply failing in its prime duty,to keep its citizens safe.

The other issue is that, going on the constant court cases that are being reported, far too high a proportion of the current immigrant population appear to be rapists & sexual deviants, who seem to think that local women are fair game.

Until government get to grips with unfettered immigration & then attempts to sift out these types, then we are in for a rough ride on the streets.

The British government hasn't a clue where most of the failed asylum seekers are living, which is absolutely pathetic. If they keep going like this, then they are handing the next election to Reform.
Can you back that up with statistics please?

https://www.psni.police.uk/foi-disclosure-log/foreign-nationals-arrested-sexual-offences

There you go. There's some Northern Irish statistics, just for you. I am quite sure that you could have dug something similar out for yourself, if you were really that interested.

Since they're compiled by the PSNI, then some degree of caution might be required.

Just watch, or listen, to the daily news. Practically every day, there's a new story emerging in the UK of a similar nature & it's reasonably reputable news sources that are running such stories, not Sky or GB News. It's difficult to argue that there's no real trend emerging here, if the evidence starts stacking up.
So 18% of *arrests* for sexual offences were of non British citizens, including Irish citizens.

Now to make that statistic mean anything, what is the corresponding % of non British citizens living in the 6.

Do u think I have f**k all else to do with my time than to dig out "statistics" just for you?
You made the claim and your backup was instantly demolished.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: playwiththewind1st on June 09, 2026, 02:28:59 PM
Quote from: Deerstalker on June 09, 2026, 02:22:55 PMA big issue, and some people beginning to wake up to it, is consent - it just does not exist in some of these countries that people are leaving.

A women is just a piece of meat to do what you want with. There have been several cases in the last year, with Afghan nationals in particular, where the judge has mentioned this.

It's now the rule on here that you have to back your claims up with some f**king sort of "statistics".
that's generally how it works

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Rossfan on June 09, 2026, 02:06:19 PMSo 18% of *arrests* for sexual offences were of non British citizens, including Irish citizens.

Now to make that statistic mean anything, what is the corresponding % of non British citizens living in the 6.

Was it 32% said they were Irish (only) in the last census?
Exactly.

So on a like for like with the evidence presented, 'foreigners' are actually half as likely to be arrested for sex crimes, assuming 4/5% of the 6 counties are proper foreigners.

playwiththewind1st

Bored now with the "statistics,  statistics, statistics" idiots & reaches gratefully for the "ignore" facility.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: playwiththewind1st on June 09, 2026, 03:07:02 PMBored now with the "statistics,  statistics, statistics" idiots & reaches gratefully for the "ignore" facility.
Well aren't you the edge lord.

Makes a claim, asked to back it up, provides a link he clearly hasn't read or understood, has a flounce.

playwiththewind1st

Cops now confirming he is Sudanese & not a Somalian, as first indicated. Hardly makes any difference.

Originally came up here via Dublin, apparently. Free Staters exporting their problems up to the North for us to deal with.

fullback2023

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 09, 2026, 03:06:29 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 09, 2026, 02:06:19 PMSo 18% of *arrests* for sexual offences were of non British citizens, including Irish citizens.

Now to make that statistic mean anything, what is the corresponding % of non British citizens living in the 6.

Was it 32% said they were Irish (only) in the last census?
Exactly.

So on a like for like with the evidence presented, 'foreigners' are actually half as likely to be arrested for sex crimes, assuming 4/5% of the 6 counties are proper foreigners.
At the last census 8.65% were born outside the UK, ie non British citizens.

UK born population - 1,738,533
Non-UK born population - 164,820 - 195 - 118.3 arrests per 100,000 population

British citizens - 794 arrests - 45.7 arrests per 100,000 population
Non-British citizens - 195 arrests - 118.3 arrests per 100,000 population

Even without allowing for the fact that some born outside the UK will have obtained British citizenship, or be entitled to it due to being born abroad to British parents, that still means the Non-UK born population are 2.6 times more likely to be arrested for sexual offences.

For reference 40,357 were born in the 26, so made up just under 25% of the Non-UK group.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: fullback2023 on June 09, 2026, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 09, 2026, 03:06:29 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 09, 2026, 02:06:19 PMSo 18% of *arrests* for sexual offences were of non British citizens, including Irish citizens.

Now to make that statistic mean anything, what is the corresponding % of non British citizens living in the 6.

Was it 32% said they were Irish (only) in the last census?
Exactly.

So on a like for like with the evidence presented, 'foreigners' are actually half as likely to be arrested for sex crimes, assuming 4/5% of the 6 counties are proper foreigners.
At the last census 8.65% were born outside the UK, ie non British citizens.

UK born population - 1,738,533
Non-UK born population - 164,820 - 195 - 118.3 arrests per 100,000 population

British citizens - 794 arrests - 45.7 arrests per 100,000 population
Non-British citizens - 195 arrests - 118.3 arrests per 100,000 population

Even without allowing for the fact that some born outside the UK will have obtained British citizenship, or be entitled to it due to being born abroad to British parents, that still means the Non-UK born population are 2.6 times more likely to be arrested for sexual offences.

For reference 40,357 were born in the 26, so made up just under 25% of the Non-UK group.
A source would be nice.

A link was provided that clearly states 'foreigners', and that includes Irish citizens, in the 6 are half as likely to be arrested for sexual assault.

fullback2023

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 09, 2026, 03:50:34 PM
Quote from: fullback2023 on June 09, 2026, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 09, 2026, 03:06:29 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 09, 2026, 02:06:19 PMSo 18% of *arrests* for sexual offences were of non British citizens, including Irish citizens.

Now to make that statistic mean anything, what is the corresponding % of non British citizens living in the 6.

Was it 32% said they were Irish (only) in the last census?
Exactly.

So on a like for like with the evidence presented, 'foreigners' are actually half as likely to be arrested for sex crimes, assuming 4/5% of the 6 counties are proper foreigners.
At the last census 8.65% were born outside the UK, ie non British citizens.

UK born population - 1,738,533
Non-UK born population - 164,820 - 195 - 118.3 arrests per 100,000 population

British citizens - 794 arrests - 45.7 arrests per 100,000 population
Non-British citizens - 195 arrests - 118.3 arrests per 100,000 population

Even without allowing for the fact that some born outside the UK will have obtained British citizenship, or be entitled to it due to being born abroad to British parents, that still means the Non-UK born population are 2.6 times more likely to be arrested for sexual offences.

For reference 40,357 were born in the 26, so made up just under 25% of the Non-UK group.
A source would be nice.

A link was provided that clearly states 'foreigners', and that includes Irish citizens, in the 6 are half as likely to be arrested for sexual assault.
Census data - https://www.nisra.gov.uk/publications/census-2021-main-statistics-demography-tables-country-birth
Arrest data - https://www.psni.police.uk/foi-disclosure-log/foreign-nationals-arrested-sexual-offences

I think someone on here misinterpreted the data due to the other question on the census about identity, 29% responded that they considered themselves to be Irish only (https://build.nisra.gov.uk/en/custom/data?d=PEOPLE&v=NAT_ID_1000).

That isn't the same as citizenship, the majority of those who answered that they were Irish were born in the north, which makes them British citizens by default, even if they don't want to be and have never held a British passport. In the PSNI figures if they were arrested for a sexual offence they would have been recorded as a British citizen and added to the 794 arrests under that category, not the 195 non-British citizens.

tonto1888

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2026, 02:41:47 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 09, 2026, 02:03:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2026, 01:54:28 PMThere will always be more crime when there is a spike in immigration, especially from places that have different traditions to the county that they will reside in. It doesn't make it ok or fine though..


Will there?

Again, you can back that up with statistics...?

2Groups facing severe institutional barriers—such as asylum seekers who are barred from working while awaiting claims—have occasionally been linked in localized studies to minor upticks in property crime2.. AI I know, but I'm sure they have pulled it from some study.

People coming to work will not be committing crimes tbf, its illegals that can't work but need them money

Not all asylum seekers are barred from working

Genocide Organ

Quote from: playwiththewind1st on June 09, 2026, 03:16:37 PMCops now confirming he is Sudanese & not a Somalian, as first indicated. Hardly makes any difference.

Originally came up here via Dublin, apparently. Free Staters exporting their problems up to the North for us to deal with.

Humpf. Wasn't there some samurai-wielding Muslim in Dundalk a few years ago, killed a Japanese student? And didn't he come down from the Black North?!

Either way, of course, they don't belong here.

Orior

Anyone else notice the AI twitter videos of Farage hitting someone all seem to come from posters with blue ticks.
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