Official Cavan GAA Thread

[boojangles]

Drumalee voted to keep Carr last nite.Some people in the club are not happy but thank god sense prevailed. Jesus we are the laughing stock of the country.Who the f**k do the County Board think they are? They can't even make up their own minds whether they want him gone.Not one of them man enough to come out and say what exactly their views are.The lack of leadership forthcoming is outrageous.

[put-it-up]

Drumalee voted to keep Carr last nite.Some people in the club are not happy but thank god sense prevailed. Jesus we are the laughing stock of the country.Who the f**k do the County Board think they are? They can't even make up their own minds whether they want him gone.Not one of them man enough to come out and say what exactly their views are.The lack of leadership forthcoming is outrageous.

Good to hear. Have not actually been speaking to anyone from Bailieborough, anyone know how they voted?

We are a laughing stock at the minute. The opening few paragraphs of that piece in the Indo, contains a right few sly digs!

[tierworker blue]

Just read the Indo article...spot on in my opinion. He tapped into a lot of the things we've been harping on about for ages.
No word from the Shamrocks yet put it up...I'll put the feelers out.

[put-it-up]

Just read the Indo article...spot on in my opinion. He tapped into a lot of the things we've been harping on about for ages.
No word from the Shamrocks yet put it up...I'll put the feelers out.

Yeah the article hit a few things on the head and is a concise opinion from a neutral.

I presume you are from up around the Royal Brenni TB? Not too many would adopt the name tierworker from outside the area! Are the Shamrocks your home club

[cavanmaniac]

Only public and national highlighting of just how embarrassing we have become, as in the Indo piece, will bring about any sort of change. Bad and all as we are, I'd say there's good, honest, genuine Cavan football people reading that and getting determined to do something about it.

I hope.

[boojangles]

Drumalee voted to keep Carr last nite.Some people in the club are not happy but thank god sense prevailed. Jesus we are the laughing stock of the country.Who the f**k do the County Board think they are? They can't even make up their own minds whether they want him gone.Not one of them man enough to come out and say what exactly their views are.The lack of leadership forthcoming is outrageous.

Good to hear. Have not actually been speaking to anyone from Bailieborough, anyone know how they voted?

We are a laughing stock at the minute. The opening few paragraphs of that piece in the Indo, contains a right few sly digs!

If he prays hard enough, promises to indulge every average footballer in the county, arranges with the organisers that the Oxegen music festival doesn't clash with a Cavan game next summer and beseeches the memory of Paddy Reilly from Ballyjamesduff to intervene on his behalf, maybe he will be granted another year in charge of the mighty empire.

I really hope some of the men 'apparently' calling the shots take a read of that.As usual making the headlines for all the wrong reasons.Seen the Mirrior today.2 pages of GAA dedicated to this farce.
The main question that has to b asked is-What plan have the people who want rid of Carr got? What is Plan B?

What Cavan football needs IMO is a Director of Football type to come in and assess the whole landscape in the county.Tell the County Board where they are going wrong.Tell the Coaching officers and Juvenile Board where they are going wrong.let him set out a Plan for the Minor ,U-21 and Senior manager on how best to improve things. Set realistic targets for all teams and re-evaluate after every 6 months.A man who has seen it before in a successful county-Joe Kernan or somebody like him.
In a lot of cases the County Board are going against the grain and not working with the clubs.The County Board should b there to facilitate clubs,not to come down heavy handed on them all the time like a school master.

[mylestheslasher]

It was a decent piece in the indo and worked to get the point across, all be it with the usual nonsense and inaccuracies from Brehony. The only way Cavan football gets any press coverage is when they have a farce like this going on. The Cavan Antrim ulster semi got 1/8 of a page of rubbish by Stephen King on the day before the game in the same paper.

[put-it-up]

It was a decent piece in the indo and worked to get the point across, all be it with the usual nonsense and inaccuracies from Brehony. The only way Cavan football gets any press coverage is when they have a farce like this going on. The Cavan Antrim ulster semi got 1/8 of a page of rubbish by Stephen King on the day before the game in the same paper.

Your really don't like King, do you Myles.

i agree with your previous post about setting goals, I said that in a litte rant of mine on the previous page. But them goals should be between management and players. A big meeting is needed at the start of next year I think - where the players have a good long hard look at themselves

[cavan4ever]

Im signing out of this thread for a while until this mess is sorted its depressing reading here these days, and while people are discussing good ideas its worse to know that there is very little chance of change happening.

[boojangles]

Im signing out of this thread for a while until this mess is sorted its depressing reading here these days, and while people are discussing good ideas its worse to know that there is very little chance of change happening.

Well the more grilling we get from the National media the better.Its important everybody gets their point across to their club reps or nothing will change.

[put-it-up]

One thing that concerns me is that a lot of club officials have no clue what is going on you know?

And if one person speaks strongly for or agianst they will all just follow suit...

Anyway im starting to get sick of talking about this, I suppose we just have to wait and see how it unfolds.

[Drung]

Many seem to be rallying around Carr, but we need to be careful not to venerate him too much. Carr has a dire record as a manager and he has actually managed to disimprove Cavan.
He didn't do it for the good of his health either -  I heard from a good source that he got the final 15k of the 45k he was owed last week, in cash.
My opinuion on the whole sorry farce is as follows:
Shame on the Cavan players for their lack of passion. Shame on Tommy Carr for taking OUR money not doing his job properly and shame on the county board for appointing him in the first place and now taking the quick fix.

[mylestheslasher]

Many seem to be rallying around Carr, but we need to be careful not to venerate him too much. Carr has a dire record as a manager and he has actually managed to disimprove Cavan.
He didn't do it for the good of his health eitheer -  I heard from a good source that he got the final 15k of the 45k he was owed last week, in cash.
My opinuion on the whole sorry farce is as follows:
Shame on the Cavan players for their lack of passion. Shame on Tommy Carr for taking OUR money not doing his job properly and shame on the county board for appointing him in the first place and now taking the quick fix.

I am hoping like BHM that the net effect of this is that the county board will get a big kick in the balls as a backlash to the handling of this. As for carr, although I am not happy with his performance I still don't see anyone else out there that would take the job that would do a better job. I think the message we would send to the wider GAA if we sack Carr is very negative and would blacken our names so much that no one would ever want to manage us.

[put-it-up]

Many seem to be rallying around Carr, but we need to be careful not to venerate him too much. Carr has a dire record as a manager and he has actually managed to disimprove Cavan.
He didn't do it for the good of his health either -  I heard from a good source that he got the final 15k of the 45k he was owed last week, in cash.
My opinuion on the whole sorry farce is as follows:
Shame on the Cavan players for their lack of passion. Shame on Tommy Carr for taking OUR money not doing his job properly and shame on the county board for appointing him in the first place and now taking the quick fix.

I agree we were dire last year, but the man needs to be given another year. \Give him and the team a chance to redeem themselves....I heard his pay-packet was around that mark. Thats the only thing that makes me think he will be voted out...because he is costing an awful lot you know?!

Big changes need to happen both on anf off the field

[Drung]

I predict he will stay in on a roughly 65-35 split.
Had the vote been taken the other nigth, he was gone. However, once the delegates seek advice from their county players they will vote to keep him, with only a few such as Gowna, Killeshandra, Laragh and Cavan Gaels said to be opposed.