Official Cavan GAA Thread

rodney trotter · November 28, 2014, 09:22:56 PM

I think McEnroe would be better suited for Centre half. Moynagh is new to Senior County football and a step up from u21;s he is prone to picking up the odd black cards with both U21's and Juniors this year, so he will need to curb that for Senior Football. A very good ball player, maybe takes too much out of the ball at times. But he will learn from that. I would have him on the wing.

Clarke was captain for the past 2 years, and his experience will be a loss to the panel. Would agree about him lacking pace.

Westside · November 29, 2014, 01:39:56 PM

Clarke for me is the biggest loss. Moynagh has loads of potential, for the first 15 minutes of that AI Semi Final last year he looked a class above the rest. But he is prone to making silly needless errors. And his injury record is far from encouraging when you're looking for a dependable No. 6.
Tierney didn't play a big enough part in the first team to consider him a big loss. As for Givney, a blessing in disguise that he's not committing this year if you ask me. Did anyone else hear that Tinnelly opted out?

I think Bud Fitzpatrick is back in the panel which is good to hear. Ciaran Brady has also excelled at U21 and I wouldn't be surprised to see him claim a place for the start of the league.

Itchy · November 29, 2014, 05:50:39 PM

Be sorry to see Tinnelly not in their. He's a perfect man to help us to open up a bit more.

mylestheslasher · November 30, 2014, 11:31:44 AM

Quote from: Westside on November 29, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
Clarke for me is the biggest loss. Moynagh has loads of potential, for the first 15 minutes of that AI Semi Final last year he looked a class above the rest. But he is prone to making silly needless errors. And his injury record is far from encouraging when you're looking for a dependable No. 6.
Tierney didn't play a big enough part in the first team to consider him a big loss. As for Givney, a blessing in disguise that he's not committing this year if you ask me. Did anyone else hear that Tinnelly opted out?

I think Bud Fitzpatrick is back in the panel which is good to hear. Ciaran Brady has also excelled at U21 and I wouldn't be surprised to see him claim a place for the start of the league.

Givney was poor last year but surely a lad playing midfield for ulster and giving mom displays in sigerson has at least the potential to have a good year next year. Maybe a breaks what he needs but he still has a lot to give in my opinion.

Bud Fitz - Not up to this level I don't think. I'd get Tom Hayes into the senior panel. Enda Reilly is another one who should be in there. Paul O Connor is a strange one. Has moments of brilliance, looks a great player and then cant even make the Gaels team - does anyone know what the story is with him?

A list of Cavan forwards I'd like to see involved, please add to in case I've missed someone....

Keating, Dunne, Enda Reilly, Paul O Connor, Martin Reilly, Barry Reilly, Tom Hayes, Jack Brady, Cian Mackey, Niall McDermott, Enda Heslin.

rodney trotter · November 30, 2014, 11:42:57 AM

O Connor was making the Gaels team this year , but got injured against Lacken in the Quarter final and missed the rest of the championship. He was poor in some of the Cavan Junior games and was good in others , a bit inconsistent.
Tom Hayes in is on the panel

Bud Fitz is worth another look I think, he showed well enough in 2012 League in a few games when he did start,. .started against Donegal in the championship that year and was unlucky with a chances hitting the cross bar and post. He can his win own and kick off either foot, a useful player to have on the panel.
His form wasn't bad with Belturbet , only came back from Australia in June was one their best players in Intermediate Championship.

Westside · November 30, 2014, 03:48:33 PM

Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 30, 2014, 11:31:44 AM
Quote from: Westside on November 29, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
Clarke for me is the biggest loss. Moynagh has loads of potential, for the first 15 minutes of that AI Semi Final last year he looked a class above the rest. But he is prone to making silly needless errors. And his injury record is far from encouraging when you're looking for a dependable No. 6.
Tierney didn't play a big enough part in the first team to consider him a big loss. As for Givney, a blessing in disguise that he's not committing this year if you ask me. Did anyone else hear that Tinnelly opted out?

I think Bud Fitzpatrick is back in the panel which is good to hear. Ciaran Brady has also excelled at U21 and I wouldn't be surprised to see him claim a place for the start of the league.

Givney was poor last year but surely a lad playing midfield for ulster and giving mom displays in sigerson has at least the potential to have a good year next year. Maybe a breaks what he needs but he still has a lot to give in my opinion.

Bud Fitz - Not up to this level I don't think. I'd get Tom Hayes into the senior panel. Enda Reilly is another one who should be in there. Paul O Connor is a strange one. Has moments of brilliance, looks a great player and then cant even make the Gaels team - does anyone know what the story is with him?

A list of Cavan forwards I'd like to see involved, please add to in case I've missed someone....

Keating, Dunne, Enda Reilly, Paul O Connor, Martin Reilly, Barry Reilly, Tom Hayes, Jack Brady, Cian Mackey, Niall McDermott, Enda Heslin.

We've been saying that about Givney since 2008/2008 though, and he's never pushed on. I'd expect to see him rejoin the panel later in the year but hopefully we'll have found a more consistent player in the mean time.

The glaring problem with those forwards is a lack of physicality. Apart from Keating and maybe McDermott there's no lads there that will bully an opposition full back line. I'd love to see how Tom Hayes fares at Senior level.

I see Dunne scored 1-2 for the All Stars in Boston.

Itchy · November 30, 2014, 09:05:08 PM

What about Joe Dillon, he'd add a bit of strength in there.

rodney trotter · November 30, 2014, 09:34:29 PM

He is injured and hasn't played in Months.

Itchy · November 30, 2014, 10:03:00 PM

I know he's injured but he won't be injured forever!

rodney trotter · November 30, 2014, 10:32:10 PM

Well not much point mentioning him, he won't be back for 3/4 months at the earliest , and would have to play Club football so no real chance of him playing County next year.

He could be lucky to even play Club next year. It's not some standard injury he got.

mylestheslasher · December 01, 2014, 09:38:56 AM

What about Ray Cullivan? Did he ever sort out his head? Has be burnt his bridges as county level. Bit of strength to him at least but I wouldnt have him in unless he demonstrated an improved attitude.

rodney trotter · December 01, 2014, 02:46:20 PM

Yeah his discipline is still poor enough, i saw him a few times this year and he wasn't bad but probaly not much of an improvement on whats already on the panel. He over did it with the gym work when he was 19/20, doesn't seem to be as mobile as he once was.

mylestheslasher · December 01, 2014, 08:29:17 PM

Quote from: rodney trotter on December 01, 2014, 02:46:20 PM
Yeah his discipline is still poor enough, i saw him a few times this year and he wasn't bad but probaly not much of an improvement on whats already on the panel. He over did it with the gym work when he was 19/20, doesn't seem to be as mobile as he once was.

When he broke onto the senior team first he looked a massive prospect, what a shame he didnt live up to it and his tantrums with not making the team were very selfish. We seem very light in the forwards unfortunately.

tommysmith · December 01, 2014, 09:39:49 PM

Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2014, 08:29:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 01, 2014, 02:46:20 PM
Yeah his discipline is still poor enough, i saw him a few times this year and he wasn't bad but probaly not much of an improvement on whats already on the panel. He over did it with the gym work when he was 19/20, doesn't seem to be as mobile as he once was.

When he broke onto the senior team first he looked a massive prospect, what a shame he didnt live up to it and his tantrums with not making the team were very selfish. We seem very light in the forwards unfortunately.

No he didn't he was yet another young player talked up to the last and his down fall was believing the hype.

mylestheslasher · December 01, 2014, 10:22:53 PM

Quote from: tommysmith on December 01, 2014, 09:39:49 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2014, 08:29:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 01, 2014, 02:46:20 PM
Yeah his discipline is still poor enough, i saw him a few times this year and he wasn't bad but probaly not much of an improvement on whats already on the panel. He over did it with the gym work when he was 19/20, doesn't seem to be as mobile as he once was.

When he broke onto the senior team first he looked a massive prospect, what a shame he didnt live up to it and his tantrums with not making the team were very selfish. We seem very light in the forwards unfortunately.

No he didn't he was yet another young player talked up to the last and his down fall was believing the hype.

Sorry Tommy but he did, he was playing wing forward and I recall him playing some excellent games in the league that year. I particularly remember him destroying Leighton Glynn in Breffni widely regarded as one of the best half backs in the country at the time. He was talked up at the time for sure because he had potential. He represented his country in compromise rules at U17 I think. I've said it many times on here before, potential and skill without attitude and work rate is worthless and as it turned out Cullivan had a stinker of an attitude and as Rodney said he did totally the wrong training and that ruined him. What you have stated there Tommy is a lazy cliche in my opinion.