Official Cavan GAA Thread

[rodney trotter]

I'm aware that he was the attacking midfield player and O Shea was the defensive player that isn't the point. Playing at a higher level at club level shouldn't matter, when Cork won the All Ireland in 2010, the a bulk of the team was made up from players playing intermediate and Junior Club football in Cork..

[Mrs mills]

Was at the game and cavan appeared overawed. Calls made for impossible passes by forwards and, worse still, futile attempts by others to try and make the passes. When good footballers review some of the stuff they did on and off the ball (when cavan had the ball), they will cringe. It's a direct result of being affected by the enormity of the occasion and perhaps the pitch too.
Eugene keating was one of the guilty parties calling for impossible passes.

[Itchy]

What is the point Rodney? All I'm saying is that the post mortem on givney is premature. Also, I'm sure Martin Dunne was just frustrated yesterday. I wouldn't read too much into it, I'm sure Terry will have a quiet word. Most disappointing player yesterday was Keating. Some of the shots and passes he was at were just crazy.

[Westside]

Poor stuff from us yesterday but a good year. The line was far too slow to make changes, I would have subbed 2 players after 15 minutes. Anyway a good year so roll on next yr.

Ye are way out on givney lads. He was given ball winning responsibility ahead of o Shea for DIT this year. He is athletic. His problem is his club are playing at a poor level. There is no chance he will drop down the pecking order. As for Greg McGovern, he is big and strong but I don't see an athlete yet and so long way to go before he is in senior team.

There is a reason Givney is the 3rd choice midfielder lads. No good being an athlete when you can't give a simple pass. Himself and Keating are similar in that both appear to have a lot of raw talent but their composure is non existent. Both were the two biggest culprits for wasteful Cavan play yesterday. Both need to drastically improve the choices they make, if they don't their places on the team need to be reconsidered.

[tommysmith]

Poor stuff from us yesterday but a good year. The line was far too slow to make changes, I would have subbed 2 players after 15 minutes. Anyway a good year so roll on next yr.

Ye are way out on givney lads. He was given ball winning responsibility ahead of o Shea for DIT this year. He is athletic. His problem is his club are playing at a poor level. There is no chance he will drop down the pecking order. As for Greg McGovern, he is big and strong but I don't see an athlete yet and so long way to go before he is in senior team.

There is a reason Givney is the 3rd choice midfielder lads. No good being an athlete when you can't give a simple pass. Himself and Keating are similar in that both appear to have a lot of raw talent but their composure is non existent. Both were the two biggest culprits for wasteful Cavan play yesterday. Both need to drastically improve the choices they make, if they don't their places on the team need to be reconsidered.

This is so true.

[rodney trotter]

What is the point Rodney? All I'm saying is that the post mortem on givney is premature. Also, I'm sure Martin Dunne was just frustrated yesterday. I wouldn't read too much into it, I'm sure Terry will have a quiet word. Most disappointing player yesterday was Keating. Some of the shots and passes he was at were just crazy.

Basically what Westside said, Givney had a excellent Sigerson Cup and Ryan Cup. Played well with Ulster, but some of the simple skills are a big let down.

Hopefully next year we might see the best of him.

[Itchy]

What Givney lacks is composure. That's not a skill but it can come with experience. To get this experience he needs to be playing at a higher level. As for 3rd choice midfielder comment, you think Thomas corr has better skill than Givney. He doesn't , it just we don't ask him to do the fielding, passing etc. Personally I think some of these comments are stupid, the guy was selected as one of 2 top midfielders in Ulster and now he's in danger if not being good enough to play for Cavan!

[Itchy]

U16s beat Wicklow 2.15 to 1.11 and are into Gerry Reilly Tournament final.

[rodney trotter]

How can he play at a higher level, Switch clubs? Mountnugent are playing in the Intermediate Championship this year, that's higher then where they were playing last year.  No disrespect to Junior. Nobody said he wasn't good enough, we are just giving an analysis on his form this year in the championship for Cavan.

[Itchy]

By playing on an amalgamated team in senior perhaps and by Cavan getting out of Div 3.

[rodney trotter]

Don't think amalgamations are ever going to happen after the way it was dealt with last year.

[Westside]

I'll qualify what I said above.. I don't want to be the one putting the boot into players after the game. There is no question surrounding the effort and willingness to work for Givney and Keating, and given the re-emergence of Mackey and Rory Dunne this year we should be very careful about writing off players too quickly. The template is there for both to be very good players and with the right coaching and a bit more experience and maturity hopefully both can improve the weaknesses in their games. But if they don't show the required improvement other options should be tried.

It's irrelevant whether he's picked at midfield for Ulster in a mickey mouse competition, we should be judging him solely on his performances for Cavan. I'm not saying he's not good enough to play for Cavan, his athleticism and ability aren't in question. It's his decision making, composure and amount of mistakes he makes that are letting him down.

[Itchy]

A lot of Mayo men were saying the same thing about Aiden O Shea last 2 years. He plays with a senior Mayo club and in Div 1. Today he is being called the best midfielder in Ireland. Givney is being asked to do an awful lot, maybe he is under too much pressure too. He needs help and while I like Corr as a good solid tryer, it was clear as day he is not athletic enough for fast pitches in the summer. He was one if the 2 I'd have took off yesterday after 15mins yesterday.

[tommysmith]

Less posing and trying to look good and concentrate on the game would help also.

[Itchy]

Less posing and trying to look good and concentrate on the game would help also.

Example?