The UK Labour Party

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seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/b0f90ec3-8094-447e-9cf1-96019978c5f6?syn-25a6b1a6=1
 Many foreign observers are bewildered by the image of a country that appears ungovernable, forced into endless changes of prime minister.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: bennydorano on May 15, 2026, 06:01:34 PMAs opposed to the Corporate Tax haven money in ROI going where?
A wealth fund for a rainy day/Irish reunification

Rossfan

Ah stop confusing lads with facts ;D
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

seafoid

The average tenure of the UK Prime Minister in this decade is 500 days. Compated to that Ireland is much more stable.

seafoid

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/naomi-long-warns-of-catastrophic-%C2%A3450m-funding-gap-facing-northern-ireland-justice-system/a/151626967.html

Naomi Long warns of 'catastrophic' £450m funding gap facing Northern Ireland justice system
£450m shortfall projected
Justice Minister Naomi Long
Justice Minister Naomi Long  © PA Radar
Andrew Madden
City Reporter
14 May 2026 8:27 PM
Naomi Long has sounded a dire warning over funding, with the Department of Justice facing "stabilisation pressures" of more than £450m over the next three years.

The Justice Minister said a projected £215m shortfall in 2028/29 alone "represents the entire budget for Prison Service, Probation Board, Youth Justice and Forensic Science".

It comes at a time when all Stormont departments are dealing with significant financial pressures, a situation that has been exacerbated as no budget has been formally agreed.

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Justice Minister warns Stormont 'cannot continue to absorb' Legacy costs

A proposed three-year draft budget was published in January, but the Executive failed to sign it off.

Now Naomi Long has detailed just how precarious the funding situation for her department is.

Under the draft budget, Ms Long said it is "extremely disappointing" that it would leave her department with stabilisation pressures — essentially shortfalls in what is required to keep things running — of £101m in 2026/27, £141m in 2027/28, and £215m in 2028/29.


"The £215m pressure in 2028/29 represents the entire budget for Prison Service, Probation Board, Youth Justice and Forensic Science," the Justice Minister noted.

This is before "exceptional pressures" for PSNI holiday pay, the McCloud remedy and legacy costs are taken into account.

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Executive parties 'obliged' to do all they can to agree budget, O'Neill says

In 2023, the PSNI lost an appeal in a long-running case on holiday pay for PSNI officers and civilian staff, which could cost around £40m.

Considering the magnitude of the pressures remaining it is difficult to see how my department will manage to live within budget
The McCloud remedy, which involves public sector pensions, could also cost the DoJ millions, while the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee previously heard legacy costs could be in the region of £1bn over the next decade.

"This is catastrophic for the justice system in Northern Ireland. Considering the magnitude of the pressures remaining it is difficult to see how my department will manage to live within budget," Ms Long said.


"The limited funding provided to my department will mean that it is almost inevitable that it will overspend its resource budget in each of the next three years. 

"I will continue to engage with ministerial colleagues to advocate for additional funding to ensure we have a justice sector that is funded appropriately now and in future years, which is currently not the case."

When it comes to the DoJ's capital position — funding for fixed assets like infrastructure — Ms Long said things are "equally stark", with an average shortfall of £150m over the next four years.

"The limited funding in the proposed draft budget will severely restrict my capital plans to transform and modernise the justice estate," she said.

"This will inevitably result in major capital projects being delayed including, potentially, the building of emergency accommodation in the Prison Service estate — such a delay is simply unfathomable given the growing prison population.

johnnycool

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Quote from: thewobbler on May 14, 2026, 11:47:35 AMOut of curiosity, do some posters on here have a full time "Jew radar" on the go, or how do you seem to be able to identify politicians in all countries as being in Israel's palm, with such conviction?

Maybe yis are just more well read than I am.

Follow the money.

Labour Friends of Israel is a good start.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/All-Party-Israel-Lobby-Full-List-Edited.pdf


ANTI-SEMITE!!

you have to be persecuting Semites before you can be called an anti-semite.

Ashkenazi's aren't semites but you knew that anyway.



I was being tongue-in-cheek. I refer you to post #593.


I was indeed being pedantic with my comment about Ashkenazi's not being semites and Gallsman comment about it being "widely understood" is accepted at being anti jew, if being incorrect is probably the accepted understanding, yet the IHRA description of anti-semitism bundles any criticism of Israel as also being anti-semitic.

Those who felt the need to bundle the state of Israel as being an entirely Jewish entity and hence criticism is anti-semitic have done more harm to the Jewish people than they envisaged.

There are plenty of Jewish groups who support and attend the Pro Palestine marches in both London and NYC, so where do they stand on the anti-semitic scale?





seafoid

Streeting and Burnham both proposed rejoining the EU.

Genocide Organ

Quote from: seafoid on May 18, 2026, 10:56:16 AMStreeting and Burnham both proposed rejoining the EU.

What votes are they chasing? Greens? Not the Red Wall's, anyway.

Besides, not going to happen, even if they do win an election.

seafoid

#668
https://x.com/LizWebsterSBF/status/1998158040533799095

The Brexit majority hasn't just slipped it's vanished. Completely. This chart from Peter Kellner/YouGov shows: • 5 million 2016 voters have died • New young voters back Rejoin by 5:1 • 29% of Leave voters now want to rejoin • Net result: Rejoin 19.8m vs Stay Out 11.7m  An 8 MILLION majority for Rejoin. Britain is now a pro-EU country. The only people keeping Brexit alive are politicians who benefit from the damage

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2026/05/15/most-northern-ireland-residents-who-voted-for-brexit-believe-it-has-failed-poll-finds/

The majority of voters in Northern Ireland, including among those who voted to leave the EU, agree Brexit has been more of a failure than a success, according to new research from Queen's University Belfast.
Ten years on from the referendum, the university found 72 per cent of Northern voters agreed with the statement, and 60 per cent among those who voted to leave.

The study, published on Friday, also found two-thirds of voters – 66 per cent – believed Brexit had made the break-up of the UK more likely.
It showed a "strong" preference for closer ties with the EU; 59 per cent of voters opposed further loosening of UK-EU ties and 57 per cent supported the UK rejoining.
She said the dominant theme in comments from those surveyed was "Brexit is a failure" and this was for two distinct reasons.
"Remainers say it's a failure because it was an act of national self-harm and they didn't want it anyway, and for leavers it's a failure because Northern Ireland never got Brexit," she explained.

Franko

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Quote from: Franko on May 14, 2026, 05:24:44 PMYou said "It says nothing about criticising Israel being anti-Semitic".

Given that most people's problem with the IHRA definition is EXACTLY this, could you outline which other bit of the IHRA definition you have a problem with, that causes you not to accept it?

That's because most people, such as your good self, choose to, at best, misread or misunderstand what the definition actually says. You argued that Israel is a Jewish community institution ffs. A state is not a community institution. You have f**king idiots on here tying themselves in knots to protest that burning out Jewish ambulances in Golders Green isn't antisemitic FFS. Know what a local Jewish ambulance service is? A Jewish community institution.

And not that I owe you any explanation of anything whatsoever, the particular pieces that I have issues with are the suggestion that denying Jews have the right to self determination is in and of itself antisemitic, or that one evidences this by labelling Israel as a racist state, along with the one about not comparing contemporary Israeli state policy to the Nazism.

As I suspect you well know, the definition expressly states that criticisms of Israel that are thrown at any other country are not antisemitic.

Yeah you're all over the place here.

You stated that 'It says nothing about criticising Israel being antisemitic'.

Then proceed to outline that one of your issues with the definition is that it prevents contemporary Israeli state policy being compared with that of the Nazis... as to criticise it in such a way would make one... antisemitic.

Someone with a brain the size of yours should surely be able to figure out that both of these statements cannot be true simultaneously.

Are you really that f**king thick?

It specifically states criticism of Israel is not by definition antisemitic, provided those criticisms could be and are levelled at other states. The obvious implication being that if you want to criticise Israel for something that you wouldn't or don't do with any other state, you're actively choosing to do it because of, you know, all the Jews that are there.

It then specifically claims that comparing Israeli policy to Nazism is antisemitic. Which I disagree with. Interesting that comparing Israeli policy to Nazism would be considered criticism given how many far right tramps there are on the board in this discussion.

It's not that complicated.

I'll walk you through this, without even swearing.  ::)

You said "It says nothing about criticising Israel being antisemitic".

You then go on to explain that comparing Israeli policy to that of the Nazis IS in fact defined as antisemitic by this document.

The only way that those two statements can be true simultaneously, is if you consider comparing someone to a Nazi to NOT be a criticism.

And if that's where you're at in an argument, it's time to put down the shovel  ;D

It really is not that complicated.

seafoid

The definition is vague and doesn't mention Israel. The examples do.

In reality Zionists call anything they don't like antisemitic. Bringing up facts like genocide or apartheid is deemed antisemitic.

Zionists are not accountable for anything.


RedHand88

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgzjpd1jjgt

Hmmm turns out Keirs open borders are not very open after all!
Funny that.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: RedHand88 on May 21, 2026, 11:33:57 AMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgzjpd1jjgt

Hmmm turns out Keirs open borders are not very open after all!
Funny that.

Probably leaving as they don't want to pay the tax here
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Genocide Organ

Quote from: RedHand88 on May 21, 2026, 11:33:57 AMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgzjpd1jjgt

Hmmm turns out Keirs open borders are not very open after all!
Funny that.

Even funnier is that fact they've now pushing this as a 'good thing', when for years they were saying immigration was a 'good thing'.