GPA exceptionalism

[Rossfan]

Those are player grants from State to the individual players (via GPA?)

[Baile Brigín 2]

Those are player grants from State to the individual players (via GPA?)

Via GAA.

[magpie seanie]

Isn't that €8 specifically for the players?

Greyhound racing should be abolished!

Yes. But how the GAA split the 11 was their call.

I don't think that is true. The GAA has no involvement in the Grants/additional expenses scheme.

And soccer is getting €4m per annum for the sham that is LoI academies.

The GAA has no control over where it's grants go? Good one.

I don't know what point you are trying to make but this is a government scheme supposedly to recognise the contribution of elite amateur GAA players as they do not qualify for the significant tax breaks professional sports people get. The grants are for intercounty players male and female. The GAA has no say in how they are allocated. They provide oversight but the GPA administers it.

[marty34]

Do the county players still get a few pair of boots every year?

Or is that part tied into the grant they get now?

[Baile Brigín 2]

Isn't that €8 specifically for the players?

Greyhound racing should be abolished!

Yes. But how the GAA split the 11 was their call.

I don't think that is true. The GAA has no involvement in the Grants/additional expenses scheme.

And soccer is getting €4m per annum for the sham that is LoI academies.

The GAA has no control over where it's grants go? Good one.

I don't know what point you are trying to make but this is a government scheme supposedly to recognise the contribution of elite amateur GAA players as they do not qualify for the significant tax breaks professional sports people get. The grants are for intercounty players male and female. The GAA has no say in how they are allocated. They provide oversight but the GPA administers it.

The GAA has the ultimate say in it's existence and what % of their headline grant it takes up.

My point is the taxpayer shouldn't be on the hook to pay GAA players. It isn't a good use of public funds.

[magpie seanie]

Isn't that €8 specifically for the players?

Greyhound racing should be abolished!

Yes. But how the GAA split the 11 was their call.

I don't think that is true. The GAA has no involvement in the Grants/additional expenses scheme.

And soccer is getting €4m per annum for the sham that is LoI academies.

The GAA has no control over where it's grants go? Good one.

I don't know what point you are trying to make but this is a government scheme supposedly to recognise the contribution of elite amateur GAA players as they do not qualify for the significant tax breaks professional sports people get. The grants are for intercounty players male and female. The GAA has no say in how they are allocated. They provide oversight but the GPA administers it.

The GAA has the ultimate say in it's existence and what % of their headline grant it takes up.

My point is the taxpayer shouldn't be on the hook to pay GAA players. It isn't a good use of public funds.

I don't disagree with the point you make at the end (we'll have to agree to disagree on the allocation). The same must apply though regarding tax breaks for professional sports players.

[magpie seanie]

Do the county players still get a few pair of boots every year?

Or is that part tied into the grant they get now?

Totally separate to the grant they get a boot allowance each year as part of the GAA/GPA charter. This also includes agreements on gear, mileage, nutrition allowance, hurley allowance, tickets and some other things.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Why? Professionals get paid. Amateurs don't.

If you want to argue for professionalism, or semi professionalism in the GAA, crack on. But it shouldn't be on the taxpayer.

[magpie seanie]

Why? Professionals get paid. Amateurs don't.

If you want to argue for professionalism, or semi professionalism in the GAA, crack on. But it shouldn't be on the taxpayer.

Why do they deserve tax breaks though? GAA players inspire young people etc in exactly the same ways and arguably moreso as they are in every corner of the country.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Why? Professionals get paid. Amateurs don't.

If you want to argue for professionalism, or semi professionalism in the GAA, crack on. But it shouldn't be on the taxpayer.

Why do they deserve tax breaks though? GAA players inspire young people etc in exactly the same ways and arguably moreso as they are in every corner of the country.

Because they are professional. GAA players aren't.

Why do GAA players deserve taxpayer funded pay over amateurs in other sports?

[magpie seanie]

I'll try again.

With the greatest respect "because they are professional" is not a reason to receive tax breaks. Everyone who is paid is professional. Should engineers, accountants, labourers, nurses, binmen all get tax breaks "because they are professional".

As previously stated, part of the "logic" behind the grants/additional expenses for gaelic games elite players was that pro-sport got tax breaks (for some reason) and gaelic players should also get some perk for their contribution.

[Baile Brigín 2]

If we want to retain top players in Ireland offer them tax back. Works in rugby more than soccer.

Again, you are arguing for semi professionalism in the GAA. Not a tax payers problem.

[Rossfan]

Seanie's not arguing for anything of the sort.
He explained why the State is giving grants to inter County GAA players.

As usual your prejudices are blinding you.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Seanie's not arguing for anything of the sort.
He explained why the State is giving grants to inter County GAA players.

As usual your prejudices are blinding you.

And that explanation is arguing for semi professionalism.

If you think wanting to preserve the amateur ethos of the GAA is a prejudice, good for you

[trueblue1234]

Is it any different from the international carding scheme? That provides grants to international athletes to help with the athletes living allowance. There's no requirement for the athlete to be professional/ full time. It's a performance based grant.