Sam Maguire 2024 Group 1 - Galway, Armagh, Derry, Westmeath

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Keyser soze

Quote from: JoG2 on May 16, 2024, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 16, 2024, 09:46:58 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 16, 2024, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 15, 2024, 01:53:39 PMNo version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

I would be more confident going to Kerry or Dublin and getting a result than I am about saturday due to our previous with Galway.

Out of those 3 Galway would be the 1 to choose on the road.  This history v Galway will have no baring at all on Sat. I'd say at most 2 Derry players played in 2015 and will be involved on Sat. Pretty much all of them beat Galway in Salthill in March.

They bate us out the gate 2 years ago in AI SF in CP when most of this team were playing.

And a league result in March will have no bearing esp as Galway had so many out injured at that time.

PS I sincerely hope you are right.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: tbrick18 on May 16, 2024, 03:05:47 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 16, 2024, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 15, 2024, 01:53:39 PMNo version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

Conversation of the big three talk will be back on should Derry win this weekend.  A win will put them in the box seat to top the group and then perhaps talking on a Mayo,Tyrone or Monaghan in the last eight tie that they'll be expected to win.  Should Dublin play Kerry in one semi final you could be looking at All Ireland final spot for Derry yet.

If we beat Galway with a depleted side undoubtedly those conversations will happen in the media.
But if we get beaten in the manner we did against Donegal - regardless of team on the field, the talk will be of the wheels coming off in the media.
Fine lines between being top 3 and an also ran in the media sphere.
I'd love to win, but if we lose I'm more interested in a good performance as 2 bad ones in a row will do nothing for confidence.

You beat Galway in Salthill with this team by a bit to spare a few months ago.

Ryan Scullion; Diarmuid Baker, Chrissy McKaigue, Conor McCluskey; Conor Doherty, Eoin McEvoy, Padraig McGrogan; Conor Glass (captain), Brendan Rogers; Ethan Doherty, Ciarán McFaul, Paul Cassidy; Niall Loughlin, Shane McGuigan, Declan Cassidy.

Subs: Niall Toner for Conor Doherty inj. (35), Donnacha Gilmore for Declan Cassidy (50), Lachlan Murray for Loughlin (56), Eunan Mulholland for Paul Cassidy (65).


Other than Padraig McGrogan who will be missing for Derry this weekend?

Armagh18

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 03:34:14 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on May 16, 2024, 03:05:47 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 16, 2024, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 15, 2024, 01:53:39 PMNo version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

Conversation of the big three talk will be back on should Derry win this weekend.  A win will put them in the box seat to top the group and then perhaps talking on a Mayo,Tyrone or Monaghan in the last eight tie that they'll be expected to win.  Should Dublin play Kerry in one semi final you could be looking at All Ireland final spot for Derry yet.

If we beat Galway with a depleted side undoubtedly those conversations will happen in the media.
But if we get beaten in the manner we did against Donegal - regardless of team on the field, the talk will be of the wheels coming off in the media.
Fine lines between being top 3 and an also ran in the media sphere.
I'd love to win, but if we lose I'm more interested in a good performance as 2 bad ones in a row will do nothing for confidence.

You beat Galway in Salthill with this team by a bit to spare a few months ago.

Ryan Scullion; Diarmuid Baker, Chrissy McKaigue, Conor McCluskey; Conor Doherty, Eoin McEvoy, Padraig McGrogan; Conor Glass (captain), Brendan Rogers; Ethan Doherty, Ciarán McFaul, Paul Cassidy; Niall Loughlin, Shane McGuigan, Declan Cassidy.

Subs: Niall Toner for Conor Doherty inj. (35), Donnacha Gilmore for Declan Cassidy (50), Lachlan Murray for Loughlin (56), Eunan Mulholland for Paul Cassidy (65).


Other than Padraig McGrogan who will be missing for Derry this weekend?
I'd say Galway will be a lot stronger this week than they were then. Should be a tight game cute hoorism aside.

seanyb

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 03:34:14 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on May 16, 2024, 03:05:47 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 16, 2024, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 15, 2024, 01:53:39 PMNo version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

Conversation of the big three talk will be back on should Derry win this weekend.  A win will put them in the box seat to top the group and then perhaps talking on a Mayo,Tyrone or Monaghan in the last eight tie that they'll be expected to win.  Should Dublin play Kerry in one semi final you could be looking at All Ireland final spot for Derry yet.

If we beat Galway with a depleted side undoubtedly those conversations will happen in the media.
But if we get beaten in the manner we did against Donegal - regardless of team on the field, the talk will be of the wheels coming off in the media.
Fine lines between being top 3 and an also ran in the media sphere.
I'd love to win, but if we lose I'm more interested in a good performance as 2 bad ones in a row will do nothing for confidence.

You beat Galway in Salthill with this team by a bit to spare a few months ago.

Ryan Scullion; Diarmuid Baker, Chrissy McKaigue, Conor McCluskey; Conor Doherty, Eoin McEvoy, Padraig McGrogan; Conor Glass (captain), Brendan Rogers; Ethan Doherty, Ciarán McFaul, Paul Cassidy; Niall Loughlin, Shane McGuigan, Declan Cassidy.

Subs: Niall Toner for Conor Doherty inj. (35), Donnacha Gilmore for Declan Cassidy (50), Lachlan Murray for Loughlin (56), Eunan Mulholland for Paul Cassidy (65).


Other than Padraig McGrogan who will be missing for Derry this weekend?

That whole half back line

JoG2

Quote from: Keyser soze on May 16, 2024, 03:21:02 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 16, 2024, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 16, 2024, 09:46:58 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 16, 2024, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 15, 2024, 01:53:39 PMNo version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

I would be more confident going to Kerry or Dublin and getting a result than I am about saturday due to our previous with Galway.

Out of those 3 Galway would be the 1 to choose on the road.  This history v Galway will have no baring at all on Sat. I'd say at most 2 Derry players played in 2015 and will be involved on Sat. Pretty much all of them beat Galway in Salthill in March.

They bate us out the gate 2 years ago in AI SF in CP when most of this team were playing.

And a league result in March will have no bearing esp as Galway had so many out injured at that time.

PS I sincerely hope you are right.

This was much more defensive orientated Derry team in their 2nd year of development. The better team in the first half, beat by 5 after gifting Galway 6 points. Mayo v Donegal in 2013,now that was a team beat out the gate.

Again, playing Galway in Salthill, with this version of Derry will have much less a baring on this game than a potential injury crisis


Blowitupref

Paul Conroy and Chrissy McKaigue from the 2007 Minor All Ireland final, serious commitment and years of service they have given to their counties.



Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

NotedObserver

Quote from: JoG2 on May 16, 2024, 05:31:43 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 16, 2024, 03:21:02 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 16, 2024, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 16, 2024, 09:46:58 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 16, 2024, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 15, 2024, 01:53:39 PMNo version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

I would be more confident going to Kerry or Dublin and getting a result than I am about saturday due to our previous with Galway.

Out of those 3 Galway would be the 1 to choose on the road.  This history v Galway will have no baring at all on Sat. I'd say at most 2 Derry players played in 2015 and will be involved on Sat. Pretty much all of them beat Galway in Salthill in March.

They bate us out the gate 2 years ago in AI SF in CP when most of this team were playing.

And a league result in March will have no bearing esp as Galway had so many out injured at that time.

PS I sincerely hope you are right.

This was much more defensive orientated Derry team in their 2nd year of development. The better team in the first half, beat by 5 after gifting Galway 6 points. Mayo v Donegal in 2013,now that was a team beat out the gate.

Again, playing Galway in Salthill, with this version of Derry will have much less a baring on this game than a potential injury crisis



Derry got a last minute goal to make the scoreboard respectable


Captain Obvious

Just Padraig McGrogan that featured in the match against Galway in the league game not named on that Derry 26 and he's replaced by McKinless. A depleted side and potential injury crisis?

Armagh18

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 09:42:28 PMJust Padraig McGrogan that featured in the match against Galway in the league game not named on that Derry 26 and he's replaced by McKinless. A depleted side and potential injury crisis?
Rumour has it McEvoy isn't fit but maybe that's bullshit?

screenexile

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 09:42:28 PMJust Padraig McGrogan that featured in the match against Galway in the league game not named on that Derry 26 and he's replaced by McKinless. A depleted side and potential injury crisis?

Loughlin and Murphy seem to be injured as well. 3 U20s named,  our bench isn't just as strong as it seemed during the league.

I hope McEvoy is fit but Harte likes to name bullshit teams so we'll find out on Saturday evening!

Armagh18

It's not that changes to the Derry team I'd be thinking about from the league it's the changes to the Galway team.

God14

Not many score getters on that Derry bench

You'd wonder what'd happen if Shane McGuigan ever got an injury

lenny

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 09:42:28 PMJust Padraig McGrogan that featured in the match against Galway in the league game not named on that Derry 26 and he's replaced by McKinless. A depleted side and potential injury crisis?

Niall Loughlin is a huge loss from the 26. He's a very underrated forward. Always worth a couple of points and a massive work rate.

God14

Quote from: lenny on May 16, 2024, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2024, 09:42:28 PMJust Padraig McGrogan that featured in the match against Galway in the league game not named on that Derry 26 and he's replaced by McKinless. A depleted side and potential injury crisis?

Niall Loughlin is a huge loss from the 26. He's a very underrated forward. Always worth a couple of points and a massive work rate.

Agreed, really solid if unspectacular performer. Heavily under rated.