Man Utd Thread:

[ONeill]

Hope he likes North London. Some great shops and brothels a-plenty. He owes Arsenal one after 'Remember The Name' and Campbellgate.

[Clown]

The White Pele

[kumquat]

Gazza has turned up at old Trafford with a can of beer and a cooked chicken!!!!!

[ross4life]

From the BBC


Cantona fears for Rooney future

Cantona feels Rooney needs advice
Manchester United legend Eric Cantona fears Wayne Rooney's top-flight career could be over within five years.
Rooney, 20, is already a key player for United and England but Cantona is worried about his lifestyle.

He told the Daily Telegraph: "Rooney can be the best in the world at 25 if he knows you need to train hard, go to bed early and be careful what you eat.

"But he could also be out of the best teams, out of England, out of the best 100 players. Completely out."


Cantona feels Rooney needs advice now to ensure the longevity of his career.

He added: "This is very, very important. All the best players in the world knew all the time these kinds of things are very important.

"I am sure (United boss) Alex Ferguson is very strong and will help. Rooney is still young.

"But somebody needs to say it to him. The last time I saw him I wanted to say it but I saw him only quickly."

The former France international, 39, points at Robbie Fowler as an example of a teenage talent who has not fulfilled his full potential.

He said: "Fowler was so good at 18, and four, five years later, at 23 or 24, finished, not even playing regularly for England, not even for the best teams. Finished.

"Completely. Out. Why?

"Clubs should ask why this kind of player is out. They say in England it is very difficult because of the media pressure. But it is not more difficult than in Italy, Spain or Brazil."

[ONeill]

Sir Alex Ferguson MUTV transcript on Wayne Rooney's decision to quit



Sir Alex Ferguson has given an interview to MUTV about the Wayne Rooney situation and the following transcript is on the ManUtd.com website.

Q: After all we've heard and read, it would be interesting to hear your point of view. Let's start with where it all began and the question of was Wayne injured?

Sir Alex Ferguson: Yes, he was injured. We sent him for a scan and while he was able to train, he was still carrying traces of his injury. Why he was saying he wasn't injured, you can only guess yourself. It's disappointing. When it came to the Sunderland game, I felt I would leave him out and give him a complete break so he could be fit for England. I thought if he went and played for England, at Wembley, we would get his form back. That was my intention, that was my idea, to galvanise him. Take a break from the games, get the training done, get his fitness back. Get rid of the traces of the ankle injury away and play for England. So why he's come out and said that, I've no idea.
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Q: Have you fallen out?

SAF: We've never had any argument, not a bit. I think you have to understand the mechanics of these situations when people want to leave the club. It's an easy one to say he's fallen out with the manager, a very easy one to say. I think there are traces of that too.

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Q: We're now hearing that he doesn't want to sign a new contract. What is the situation with his contract negotiations?

SAF: That is true. David [Gill], in the early part of the summer, had opened talks with his agent. And that was to be continued after the World Cup. I was in the office on August 14 when David told me he'd had a call from his agent saying that Wayne wasn't going to sign his contract. So then David came across to see me. He said he couldn't believe it and neither could I. I was dumbfounded, I couldn't understand it at all because only months before he'd said he was at the biggest club in the world and he wanted to stay for life. We just don't know what's changed the boy's mind. David was shocked, I was shocked.

I had a meeting with the boy and he reiterated what his agent had said. He wanted to go. I said to him, 'Just remember one thing: respect this club.' I don't want any nonsense from you, respect your club. What we're seeing now in the media is disappointing because we've done everything we can for Wayne Rooney, since the minute he's come to the club. We've always been there as a harbour for him. Any time he's been in trouble, the advice we've given him – I've even been prepared to give him financial advice, many times. But you do that for your players, not just Wayne Rooney. That's Manchester United. This is a club which bases all its history and its tradition on the loyalty and trust between managers and players and the club. That goes back to the days of Sir Matt. That's what it's founded on. Wayne's been a beneficiary of this help, just as Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes and all the players have been. That's what we're there for.

There's been no falling out. That's why we need to clarify the situation now for our fans. Because what we saw on Saturday was unacceptable. When we were at 2-2 and the fans were chanting for Wayne Rooney, it put pressure on the players and it didn't do any good for the team. So we've got to clarify the situation and try to do it right. There's no [specific] offer on the table for Wayne [at the moment] because they're not prepared to listen to an offer. But there's always an offer there for Manchester United to negotiate with a player. That's still there.

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Q: We know what Wayne can do as a player, so are you personally disappointed at the moment?

SAF: Yes, I'm disappointed, very disappointed, I can't believe it. When you manage Manchester United, there is always something you have to deal with. We've had to deal with these situations over the years. There is a disappointment a lot of the time when you have to deal with modern-day players. It's not as easy as it was many, many years ago when you were negotiating a contract because then the player had to depend and trust on the manager he worked for. And as a manager, you had more contact with the parents then as well. Yesterday I said to Edwin who made that mistake on Saturday, 'Well, how are you feeling?' He said the first phone call he'd received was from his father. I said, 'Well listen to him, he's the one you should listen to.' But that's gone now. We're dealing with agents who live in the pockets of players. We live in a different world now and we have to deal with it in a different way. It's a pity but it's there and we have to deal with it.

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Q: What would be your message to the fans?

SAF: The message is that they have to trust Manchester United. If you look at the history of our club over the last 50 years, at the amount of trophies we've won, the honour we've received, the recognition we've got, the respect we've got from around the world, the admiration we've had from everywhere. We've produced more players than any other club in the country for England. It's a fantastic history and we should always remember that. You have setbacks, we have some blips at times. Last year for instance, we could have created history by winning the league for the fourth time in a row. It had never been done. We lost it by a point. That doesn't tell us this team is falling apart or anything like that. What it always represents is the next step forward. How do we challenge? That's Manchester United. You can't continually win everything every year. But when you have the little blips, we have the structure, we have the management staff to deal with that in order to get us back into line again. We have to deal with Saturday's disappointment and we have the wherewithal to deal with that.

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Q: Is the door still open if Wayne changes his mind?

SAF: Of course. David's prepared to offer the best terms possible for any player in the country. We realise and recognise the quality of the player, that's why negotiations were started early summer, two years before his contract was up, to extend that  contract. And also extend at the behest of the player itself. He said he wanted to stay for life. We were honouring that request from Wayne to stay at the club, at the club he loved. He said the best thing he'd ever done was to sign for Manchester United. So David was prepared, with the discussions with our owners, to offer Wayne the best contract that anyone could have in the country.

[orangeman]

Let him go on. He'll be missed but life goes on. If they can half the money they got for Ronaldo, it will be good business.


Time for a new chapter.

He's damaged goods now anyway and his valuation will reflect that.

[BerfArmagh]

Thats the thanks ye get for trying to educate a scouser. Better of without him. Fergie should stick him in reserves and sell him in january. Modern footballers just continue to disappoint. Thank god for the GAA

[ONeill]

If the January transfer is going to happen, how do the Manure heads think Fergie'll use Rooney in Nov and Dec?

[orangeman]

If the January transfer is going to happen, how do the Manure heads think Fergie'll use Rooney in Nov and Dec?

Wrap him in cotton wool so that he doesn't get injured and throw the ladies at him to maintain his fitness levels.

[ross4life]

I had a meeting with the boy and he reiterated what his agent had said. He wanted to go. I said to him, 'Just remember one thing: respect this club.' I don't want any nonsense from you, respect your club. What we're seeing now in the media is disappointing because we've done everything we can for Wayne Rooney

Well done Wayne 

[The Worker]

If fergie can recoup the money paid for wazza now he should, he will be finished in 2-3 years, just like gazza.

The little pea is a ready made replacement anyway, Wayne who?

[Peter Solan the Great]

[ross4life]

Moving on from the Rooney story united have a big game tomorrow

Owen,Rooney,Giggs,Evans,Bebe,Hargreaves are all out so look's like Berbatov,Hernandez will start up front while i wonder will Obertan be given the chance in the absence of Giggs?

I certainly won't underestimate the Turkish champions/current league leaders & don't forget Turkish teams have a decent record in Old Traford (Fenerbahce,Galatasaray,Besiktas got result's in OT in the past)

So after all the off the field problems a win for united is vital tomorrow night!

   

   

[The Worker]

Moving on from the Rooney story united have a big game tomorrow

Owen,Rooney,Giggs,Evans,Bebe,Hargreaves are all out so look's like Berbatov,Hernandez will start up front while i wonder will Obertan be given the chance in the absence of Giggs?

I certainly won't underestimate the Turkish champions/current league leaders & don't forget Turkish teams have a decent record in Old Traford (Fenerbahce,Galatasaray,Besiktas got result's in OT in the past)

So after all the off the field problems & win for united is vital tomorrow night!

tomorrow night's game is gonna be completely overshadowed by the Rooney story.

[ross4life]

Moving on from the Rooney story united have a big game tomorrow

Owen,Rooney,Giggs,Evans,Bebe,Hargreaves are all out so look's like Berbatov,Hernandez will start up front while i wonder will Obertan be given the chance in the absence of Giggs?

I certainly won't underestimate the Turkish champions/current league leaders & don't forget Turkish teams have a decent record in Old Traford (Fenerbahce,Galatasaray,Besiktas got result's in OT in the past)

So after all the off the field problems & win for united is vital tomorrow night!

tomorrow night's game is gonna be completely overshadowed by the Rooney story.

Yes but the business needs to be done on the field if they don't win this it's advantage Rangers & some interesting chants ready for Rooney tomorrow night