NFL Div 2 2020

Junior Ex Laoistalk · October 16, 2020, 06:03:14 PM

Niall Corbet

Trevor Collins, Mark Timmons, Robbie Pigott
Alan Farrell, Colm Begley, Eoin Buggie

Kieran Lillis, John O'Loughlin

Gareth Dillon, Mark Barry, Brian Byrne
Diarmuid Whelan, Evan O'Carroll, Gary Walsh

recyclebin · October 17, 2020, 02:22:22 PM

Anyone watching this on GAAGO? Video keeps jumping and is so jittery. I've tried the app, Chromecast and laptop and all are unwatchable. Even if the video was good the camera angle is terrible and too low down. I've had to switch it off and ask for refund

The Boy Wonder · October 17, 2020, 02:55:42 PM

Yes, it's a very jittery picture on GaaGo.
Not going well at all - losing Begley and Timmons before throw-in didn't help.

on the hop · October 17, 2020, 03:01:10 PM

This is a shambles so far, having huge problems down the sides with their pace. Really need to be a bit more direct

High Fielder · October 17, 2020, 03:27:24 PM

Pitiful to watch. Weak as piss.

The Boy Wonder · October 17, 2020, 03:41:57 PM

...and they said the return of inter-county would be good for your mental health

High Fielder · October 17, 2020, 03:47:12 PM

In fairness, I just don't think we have the standard of players needed

Giovanni · October 17, 2020, 05:41:41 PM

Quote from: The Boy Wonder on October 17, 2020, 03:41:57 PM
...and they said the return of inter-county would be good for your mental health

When I looked at the team sheet I thought that we should do well. But it really did look like men against boys. I know preparations must have been almost impossible but that didn't seem to stop Westmeath. Really poor.

High Fielder · October 17, 2020, 06:00:54 PM

I think we need to wake up big time in Laois. These players are standout in our very poor club championship. They are not good enough at county level. Some of the lads playing today are probably only there because others didn't commit. Very little difference even if they did. We're talking basics here. Evan on his day is the only forward who could score big at this level. Our backs can't tackle and are loose. The lads in midfield, admire them though I do, struggle to get their own ball. No point talking about today or this year. We need a plan going forward or we're wasting our time

High Fielder · October 17, 2020, 07:05:25 PM

A good question. In my opinion, we can only ever hope to get a golden crop every now and then. They may be a lifetime apart. The numbers don't stack up unfortunately. Aside from that, there is an awful lot wrong. When you consider a third of our population comes from one town, it is easy to see how imbalances occur. That's only the start. Bottom line. We don't have the numbers, and we're far from being alone

BallyroanAbu · October 17, 2020, 08:12:03 PM

Yes we can be successful, more so at football (because numbers are there). I was involved with last years Minor Footballers and using numbers as an argument for poor performance is nothing more than BS. The talent is there have we the structure and coaching development to harness it is another matter. This year's Minor Footballers are arguably more talented than last years, and hopefully they do well. But I won't be buying the nonsense of numbers it's inadequate development and coaches. I still am seething over the appointment of this years Minor Coach, hopefully he does well. However appointing an guy with no club affiliation in Laois is beyond a joke, when both Noel Coss and Killian Fitzpatrick applied for it. Killian didn't do to badly after!

High Fielder · October 17, 2020, 08:34:28 PM

Proportionately speaking, the clubs and counties with the biggest picks do best. I don't know where the BS lies in that very obvious assertion. The BS here is this persistent line that we have the talent, when all the evidence suggests otherwise. Our players look weak and badly prepared the minute they step outside the county. Maybe you're too close to some of the players involved to look at this objectively BA.

Laoiseabu · October 17, 2020, 08:50:56 PM

I'd agree with high fielder . As soon as some of the players put on Laois jersey and go outside the county it turns into a complete shit show for them . It's going to take a total change of culture from the ground up from u6s the whole way to senior . The levels of strength and conditioning in Laois is WAY behind the top counties . It was men vs boys today . I honestly don't know who is going to go midfield to replace Lillis and O'Loughlin in the near future . The bigger picture here is that we are a division 3 team . I can see ourselves and Offaly hanging around division 3 for a while in the next couple of years .

on the hop · October 17, 2020, 08:55:58 PM

Best part of today was the refund. A sense of deja vu again in Mullingar. It was Hard to know what to expect before today, with no form line or real knowledge of the current make up of the squad. A few withdrawals and then late injuries left us a bit exposed. Once again Westmeath out fought us and at times bullied certain players, nothing new there in Mullingar. Maybe the lack of training or game time contributed to the shapeless nature of our play. Westmeath looked fitter and sharper but this wouldn't excuse how bad so many key players were. We were too slow to move piggott out on heslin, never dealt with the attacks down the sides, especially both their wing backs and never corrected the lack of mobility around the middle third. There was loads more but it was just the general awfulness of the display that is worrying. The casual miss of such a close in free really summed things up.

The club championships have been of a dreadful standard this year. It might be a bit harsh but we have too many senior teams. Quirke has been extremely loyal to some players when their form didn't warrant a start let alone being involved. He might not be able to do much about it in the next month but it will have to change going forward.

BallyroanAbu · October 18, 2020, 09:24:56 AM

Quote from: High Fielder on October 17, 2020, 08:34:28 PM
Proportionately speaking, the clubs and counties with the biggest picks do best. I don't know where the BS lies in that very obvious assertion. The BS here is this persistent line that we have the talent, when all the evidence suggests otherwise. Our players look weak and badly prepared the minute they step outside the county. Maybe you're too close to some of the players involved to look at this objectively BA.

I think we are getting crossed wires here, I don't think there is any particular problem with numbers of young players up to 17 in this County. I do think there are issues with their development from 13 to 20. The way forward in my opinion is improving our Underage Teams but that comes by improvement in structure be it S&C, Technical Training and I would say Coach Development. There was no particular "Golden Generation" from 1996- 2007 more likely just we landed on good Coaches at that time. This was at a time where S & C and nutrition were not particularly strong in all counties. Now we would have to improve in a number areas to bring our underage teams forward, we need consistent development of our players at 13-20 in the areas S&C, technical ability, athletic levels to give them a platform to succeed at senior.

I don't see any major difference in player numbers for us at underage with
Monaghan
Armagh
Tyrone
Roscommon