2019 All Ireland Football Qualifiers

Don Draper · July 01, 2019, 11:12:20 AM

Quote from: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 01, 2019, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on July 01, 2019, 10:51:03 AM
Quote from: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 01, 2019, 10:49:44 AM
Great draw, Cork will be in a bad place after that defeat to Kerry and we are on a high at the moment. I know that won't win it for us but if you look at the league form last year we are very close to each other so any psychological difference between the teams can make the difference.
WTF? Surely Cork are on a high after putting it up to a Kerry side who have bent them over repeatedly in recent years?

They might be on a high but they still lost a game they could have won. That does things to players heads and, as I said, it's not going to win the game for us but it can make heads drop when the going gets tough. Maybe you're right and we will roll over and give up because they put it up to the mighty Kerry but I don't think so and the form suggests there is very little between us.

Its as good a draw as we could have hoped for, but if I were one of those Cork players, I'd be feeling very happy with myself coming out of that game. Pride restored. Meath are on a low, Galway are looking to bounce back, Cavan might be a bit down. Cork, they've been relegated, pilloried, decried, that win will restore some confidence.

Its up to us to shatter it once more.

I'm terrified of their pace however.

MasterJ · July 01, 2019, 11:50:40 AM

All the teams who lost provincial finals all probably where hoping for Laois.

Don Draper · July 01, 2019, 11:52:31 AM

Quote from: MasterJ on July 01, 2019, 11:50:40 AM
All the teams who lost provincial finals all probably where hoping for Laois.

No way? They weren't secretly hoping for 2018 All Ireland Finalists Tyrone? Perennial All Ireland Finalists Mayo? Division 2 side Clare?

MasterJ · July 01, 2019, 11:54:52 AM

Relax

Junior Ex Laoistalk · July 01, 2019, 12:21:46 PM

Quote from: Don Draper on July 01, 2019, 11:12:20 AM
I'm terrified of their pace however.

Totally agree with that, I think this is where we could fail, the speed of some of there lads against Kerry was awesome. That No. 11 will cause us a lot of problems..

Tony · July 01, 2019, 12:53:33 PM

Cork 1/2 to win this one. Can't really argue with that.

BallyroanAbu · July 01, 2019, 01:13:49 PM

I would have Laois slight favorites for this, Cork while a familiar name are not what they once were. If a good showing in Munster Final makes you a good team over night well fair play but I don't think so. Laois to win this and qualify for Super 8's BOOM

blueandwhite1 · July 01, 2019, 01:14:08 PM

This is exactly where you want to be. We have learned enough about Laois to know that we are very good at beating teams below us but you have to move up a serious notch to be good enough to compete in the Super 8s. Cork ran Kerry very close and will be very confident of beating us. If they do, then in reality we are not ready for the Super 8s. If we beat them, then we will deserve to be in the Super 8s. The likely group that Laois would be in are Dublin, Tyrone and Roscommon (sorry Cavan).

Personally, I thought we looked more than good enough on Saturday to beat Offaly but a long way off the standard that is required. Our defending is only sporadically intense and the speed at which we attack is way off the mark.

BallyroanAbu · July 01, 2019, 01:28:34 PM

I don't know Blueandwhite1 I don't think Cork are great, I feel Super 8's will be an eyeopener for us. But we will never move up the levels unless we are there. However Cork are far short of Super 8's standard them ourselves are just on the lucky draw.

recyclebin · July 01, 2019, 01:39:48 PM

Super 8 would be a great for Laois. We may lose all three games but it would be against division 1 teams and be good preparation for division 2 next year. It would highlight our biggest weakness to work on.

Cork will have there homework done. I was sitting beside two of their backroom team on Saturday in O Moore Park and they were flat out taking notes on both Laois and Offaly. They weren't even hiding the fact that they were from Cork. Both had Cork gaa tshirts on.

Tony · July 01, 2019, 02:00:35 PM

Ballyroan, Cork were very unlucky in the League to go down, beating Armagh on the last day. They are a good side and their championship form has been good with an impressive showing against Kerry - one of the top 3 sides in the country. So I'm not sure if you've seen them at all this year. Having said that, I think we can have a competitive enough game with them. But to label us favourites is very questionable.

Don Draper · July 01, 2019, 02:00:52 PM

Quote from: blueandwhite1 on July 01, 2019, 01:14:08 PM
This is exactly where you want to be. We have learned enough about Laois to know that we are very good at beating teams below us but you have to move up a serious notch to be good enough to compete in the Super 8s. Cork ran Kerry very close and will be very confident of beating us. If they do, then in reality we are not ready for the Super 8s. If we beat them, then we will deserve to be in the Super 8s. The likely group that Laois would be in are Dublin, Tyrone and Roscommon (sorry Cavan).

Personally, I thought we looked more than good enough on Saturday to beat Offaly but a long way off the standard that is required. Our defending is only sporadically intense and the speed at which we attack is way off the mark.

We're missing out two main central defenders, of course its going to be sporadic, but its developing.

High Fielder · July 01, 2019, 02:01:57 PM

Cork looked good the last day, but you could turn that on its head and say that Kerry looked a million miles off being All Ireland contenders. They're probably no better than Meath, who we were very disappointing against. It's not a game I'd expect to win, but I'd be delighted if we did, obviously.

thegreeenandgold · July 01, 2019, 02:04:36 PM

I'm a huge fan of the League and I think the tables tend to be an accurate assessment of where teams are. I've seen Cork sporadically play well but more often than not they are poor. Historically a big name but that counts for little. I know we are a long way off the top sides, but I don't think Cork are a top side.

Don Draper · July 01, 2019, 02:07:21 PM

Quote from: thegreeenandgold on July 01, 2019, 02:04:36 PM
I'm a huge fan of the League and I think the tables tend to be an accurate assessment of where teams are. I've seen Cork sporadically play well but more often than not they are poor. Historically a big name but that counts for little. I know we are a long way off the top sides, but I don't think Cork are a top side.

There was no easy tie for Laois, thats what happens when separate the wheat from the chaff. This Laois side shouldn't fear Cork, but respect is expected. Cork scored heavy against Limerick and Kerry and got all the goals they wanted in both. That will have to be dealt with. I think we'll cause them plenty of problems too. There's a lot of reasons to be hopeful here.