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Get Glass out of CHF I would say. If he's not in midfield should be CHB.

Glass was incredible last year, the team obviously struggled, but to my mind, he was pretty much the best player on the field in many of our games, he hasn't hit those heights this year yet, so I'd agree he needs to be further out the pitch, is the thinking that he's actually our only real 2-point threat? Shane was moved out to chf earlier this year on that basis too, but it didn't work out.
Speaking of 2 PT threats, Paul Cassidy is definitely one, so wasn't clear why he didn't start - maybe we wanted to have something off the bench?

I'd say if you watched the previous 3 or 4 games you'd have a fair idea on why Cassidy was benched. Shane McGuigan will likely still start, but he is also out of form and needs to get his head back in the game. Big Glass was powerful last year but hasn't hit the same heights. It's a strange one where we have pretty much had a full pick but so many of our go to boys are out of form. A few of our lads need a rocket to light a bit of a fire under them as we are being looked at as a soft touch. Hoping for a home draw tomorrow.

[tbrick18]

Get Glass out of CHF I would say. If he's not in midfield should be CHB.

Glass was incredible last year, the team obviously struggled, but to my mind, he was pretty much the best player on the field in many of our games, he hasn't hit those heights this year yet, so I'd agree he needs to be further out the pitch, is the thinking that he's actually our only real 2-point threat? Shane was moved out to chf earlier this year on that basis too, but it didn't work out.
Speaking of 2 PT threats, Paul Cassidy is definitely one, so wasn't clear why he didn't start - maybe we wanted to have something off the bench?

I'd say if you watched the previous 3 or 4 games you'd have a fair idea on why Cassidy was benched. Shane McGuigan will likely still start, but he is also out of form and needs to get his head back in the game. Big Glass was powerful last year but hasn't hit the same heights. It's a strange one where we have pretty much had a full pick but so many of our go to boys are out of form. A few of our lads need a rocket to light a bit of a fire under them as we are being looked at as a soft touch. Hoping for a home draw tomorrow.

That's it in a nutshell.
Another thing I don't really understand - we are playing with 3 ff's who can win ball and cause damage, but we refuse to kick a ball into them. Armagh make those diagonal runs from ff and the ball is kicked in front of them time and again. Why do we never try something like that? We have a one dimensional attack that actually is easy enough to defend against.
When we were going strong a few years ago, each attack had 3 players coming at pace from deep - usually the half back line supported by clucky, rogers and glass at varying times. We seem to have abandoned that approach even though worked well for us. I want to see more of CD, McKinless, Clucky, Rogers driving at opposition defences.
Feels like we are afraid to concede on a turnover, so don't want to commit to going forward.

[Ryan O]

Gk- Scullion
CB - Coner Mc
FB - Mc Evoy
CB - Forbes
RHB - Coner Doc
CHB - Brendan Rogers
LHB - Gareth Mc Kinless
MF - Coner Glass
MF - Dan Higgins
RHF - Ethan
CHF - Niall Loughlin
LHF - Shane
RCF - Sean Kearney/ Sean Young
FF - Paul Cassidy
LCF - Lachlan Murray

Impactors:
Niall O Donnell
James Sargent
Paudi
Sean Young

[Stickittotheman]

Gk- Scullion
CB - Coner Mc
FB - Mc Evoy
CB - Forbes
RHB - Coner Doc
CHB - Brendan Rogers
LHB - Gareth Mc Kinless
MF - Coner Glass
MF - Dan Higgins
RHF - Ethan
CHF - Niall Loughlin
LHF - Shane
RCF - Sean Kearney/ Sean Young
FF - Paul Cassidy
LCF - Lachlan Murray

Impactors:
Niall O Donnell
James Sargent
Paudi
Sean Young

That's a pretty wild attempt at a team.

[marty34]

Gk- Scullion
CB - Coner Mc
FB - Mc Evoy
CB - Forbes
RHB - Coner Doc
CHB - Brendan Rogers
LHB - Gareth Mc Kinless
MF - Coner Glass
MF - Dan Higgins
RHF - Ethan
CHF - Niall Loughlin
LHF - Shane
RCF - Sean Kearney/ Sean Young
FF - Paul Cassidy
LCF - Lachlan Murray

Impactors:
Niall O Donnell
James Sargent
Paudi
Sean Young

Inter-county coaching waffle. 

[Ryan O]

Gk- Scullion
CB - Coner Mc
FB - Mc Evoy
CB - Forbes
RHB - Coner Doc
CHB - Brendan Rogers
LHB - Gareth Mc Kinless
MF - Coner Glass
MF - Dan Higgins
RHF - Ethan
CHF - Niall Loughlin
LHF - Shane
RCF - Sean Kearney/ Sean Young
FF - Paul Cassidy
LCF - Lachlan Murray

Impactors:
Niall O Donnell
James Sargent
Paudi
Sean Young

Inter-county coaching waffle. 

😂😂. Thats a fact

[Ryan O]

Gk- Scullion
CB - Coner Mc
FB - Mc Evoy
CB - Forbes
RHB - Coner Doc
CHB - Brendan Rogers
LHB - Gareth Mc Kinless
MF - Coner Glass
MF - Dan Higgins
RHF - Ethan
CHF - Niall Loughlin
LHF - Shane
RCF - Sean Kearney/ Sean Young
FF - Paul Cassidy
LCF - Lachlan Murray

Impactors:
Niall O Donnell
James Sargent
Paudi
Sean Young

That's a pretty wild attempt at a team.

Please elaborate?

[Wildweasel74]

I think McCloskey needs come in to the halfback line. His trademark runs from deep he cant really do anymore as he normally one of the last 3. If Murray out, Kearney or C Higgins needs a chance in the corner. Be tempted to move McGuigan to the corner and start the Newbridge man at full forward.Again alot of all this personel changes should been tried in the league, but some men were injured.

[Stickittotheman]

Gk- Scullion
CB - Coner Mc
FB - Mc Evoy
CB - Forbes
RHB - Coner Doc
CHB - Brendan Rogers
LHB - Gareth Mc Kinless
MF - Coner Glass
MF - Dan Higgins
RHF - Ethan
CHF - Niall Loughlin
LHF - Shane
RCF - Sean Kearney/ Sean Young
FF - Paul Cassidy
LCF - Lachlan Murray

Impactors:
Niall O Donnell
James Sargent
Paudi
Sean Young

That's a pretty wild attempt at a team.

Please elaborate?

Forbes at centre back? Rogers at centre half back? McKinless at left half back?

I mean within the first few positions you have men all over the place. Rogers played CHB last year. Everyone to a man agreed it was a waste, the man needs to play a traditional midfield role instead of being given man marking jobs. McKinless not the force of old but should only be used centrally. Not effective so far wide. Forbes should really be in the half back line and if anyone dropping back it should be Paudi.

Paul Cassidy as full forward? On what basis? Loughlin as centre forward not the worst idea but surely Higgins in there makes more sense? McGuigan pulled out to left half forward? Why? He is going through a bad spell, God forbid a man who has been shooting the lights out for years has a bad patch. He will come good. He just has to play through it.

McGuckin

Clucky
McEvoy
Baker

McGrogan
McKinless
Doherty

Glass
Rogers

Cassidy
Higgins
E. Doherty

Loughlin
McGuigan
Murray

Thats our best team at the minute. An argument maybe for McEvoy to go to 6. McKinless an impact sub. Forbes into half back line. McGrogan back to 3.

[JoG2]

Gk- Scullion
CB - Coner Mc
FB - Mc Evoy
CB - Forbes
RHB - Coner Doc
CHB - Brendan Rogers
LHB - Gareth Mc Kinless
MF - Coner Glass
MF - Dan Higgins
RHF - Ethan
CHF - Niall Loughlin
LHF - Shane
RCF - Sean Kearney/ Sean Young
FF - Paul Cassidy
LCF - Lachlan Murray

Impactors:
Niall O Donnell
James Sargent
Paudi
Sean Young

That's a pretty wild attempt at a team.

Please elaborate?

Anyone dropping McGrogan needs tested for LSD

[Wildweasel74]

He was poor on Sat, possible move to corner back.

[lenny]

He was poor on Sat, possible move to corner back.

Like a number of players, he's living on his past reputation.

[Ryan O]

Gk- Scullion
CB - Coner Mc
FB - Mc Evoy
CB - Forbes
RHB - Coner Doc
CHB - Brendan Rogers
LHB - Gareth Mc Kinless
MF - Coner Glass
MF - Dan Higgins
RHF - Ethan
CHF - Niall Loughlin
LHF - Shane
RCF - Sean Kearney/ Sean Young
FF - Paul Cassidy
LCF - Lachlan Murray

Impactors:
Niall O Donnell
James Sargent
Paudi
Sean Young

That's a pretty wild attempt at a team.

Please elaborate?

Forbes at centre back? Rogers at centre half back? McKinless at left half back?

I mean within the first few positions you have men all over the place. Rogers played CHB last year. Everyone to a man agreed it was a waste, the man needs to play a traditional midfield role instead of being given man marking jobs. McKinless not the force of old but should only be used centrally. Not effective so far wide. Forbes should really be in the half back line and if anyone dropping back it should be Paudi.

Paul Cassidy as full forward? On what basis? Loughlin as centre forward not the worst idea but surely Higgins in there makes more sense? McGuigan pulled out to left half forward? Why? He is going through a bad spell, God forbid a man who has been shooting the lights out for years has a bad patch. He will come good. He just has to play through it.

McGuckin

Clucky
McEvoy
Baker

McGrogan
McKinless
Doherty

Glass
Rogers

Cassidy
Higgins
E. Doherty

Loughlin
McGuigan
Murray

Thats our best team at the minute. An argument maybe for McEvoy to go to 6. McKinless an impact sub. Forbes into half back line. McGrogan back to 3.

My team has Forbes at Corner Back.

There is no basis for continuing with Mc Evoy further out the pitch. He gets lost around midfield, rarely catches clean ball and isn't giving an option of breaking any lines going forward.
Rogers spend long periods on Saturday in around full back purely because there is nobody else we can currently trust in there.

Mc Grogan struggles for pace when out around half back. Mc Guigan wants to be out around centre half forward he's not a traditional full forward where he can beat a man or get a shot off quickly, he's also not a quick as Paul Cassidy.
Paul wants to take men on, is fast and direct, is that not what we need in a full forward?

What is your thinking in dropping Forbes who I think has been one of our better players this season?


Shea Mc Guckian has been decent at times this year but I don't see the reason in continuing with him as the keeper, for our long term development its pointless.
Realistically when Lynch returns Shea won't even be the keeper for his club, he'll probably go back to half forward.

Long term goalkeepers for Derry currently are Lynch, Scullion and Regan lets develop them rather than this temporary patch up measures we've been running with for almost 2 years.

[jb77]

Derry vs Meath

[doh827]

He was poor on Sat, possible move to corner back.

Like a number of players, he's living on his past reputation.

Past reputation? He's probably been derry's best player all season