Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[JoG2]

As a season ticket holder and no option to buy for Louth game how does that work

You can't buy extra tickets but you can download your own personal ticket

won't let me even download my own personal one.
Says max seat limit reached like I've already bought.
I'll have to chase Ticketmaster.

got my season tickets yesterday, maybe just in the nick of time.

Ticket w**kers 

This is more like it. Things going too well. We need a bit of infighting on here 😝😎

Glass was getting half full there and it only March

[Ryan O]

Last I heard of Donnncha Gilmore he had injured his shoulder and had to get surgery. Another lad who has had his fair share of injuries. Agreed, he would be an asset for this panel and it would be great to have another city man on the panel.

Hopefully we will see him back. Could see him slotting with the other 7 of the 2020 AI Minor team on the panel - some return indeed.
Diamond, Downey, Higgins, McEvoy, McGurk, Murray, O'Donnell.
 

Thats a tough sell for me there, not sure where he fits personally, I think old rules protected individuals with slightly less football ability. ( Diplomatic?)

Don't see place for him in the back 6 or in the next 5 either. Going off 6 that started at weekend plus Clucky, Mc Evoy, Bradley, Mc Gurk, Mulholland.
O' Mianain another half back option I would think.

I get the importance of building a squad but has to be with right people, and also they need to be from South Derry.

Joking

[Derry Man]

Last I heard of Donnncha Gilmore he had injured his shoulder and had to get surgery. Another lad who has had his fair share of injuries. Agreed, he would be an asset for this panel and it would be great to have another city man on the panel.

Hopefully we will see him back. Could see him slotting with the other 7 of the 2020 AI Minor team on the panel - some return indeed.
Diamond, Downey, Higgins, McEvoy, McGurk, Murray, O'Donnell.
 

Thats a tough sell for me there, not sure where he fits personally, I think old rules protected individuals with slightly less football ability. ( Diplomatic?)

Don't see place for him in the back 6 or in the next 5 either. Going off 6 that started at weekend plus Clucky, Mc Evoy, Bradley, Mc Gurk, Mulholland.
O' Mianain another half back option I would think.

I get the importance of building a squad but has to be with right people, and also they need to be from South Derry.

Joking

Fairly harsh, better footballer than most you mentioned

[jb77]

Sargent will be in that mix next year too, it'll be interesting to see what happens when McEvoy returns.

[marty34]

Last I heard of Donnncha Gilmore he had injured his shoulder and had to get surgery. Another lad who has had his fair share of injuries. Agreed, he would be an asset for this panel and it would be great to have another city man on the panel.

Hopefully we will see him back. Could see him slotting with the other 7 of the 2020 AI Minor team on the panel - some return indeed.
Diamond, Downey, Higgins, McEvoy, McGurk, Murray, O'Donnell.
 

Thats a tough sell for me there, not sure where he fits personally, I think old rules protected individuals with slightly less football ability. ( Diplomatic?)

Don't see place for him in the back 6 or in the next 5 either. Going off 6 that started at weekend plus Clucky, Mc Evoy, Bradley, Mc Gurk, Mulholland.
O' Mianain another half back option I would think.

I get the importance of building a squad but has to be with right people, and also they need to be from South Derry.

Joking

Fairly harsh, better footballer than most you mentioned

I listened to Irish News podcast a few weeks ago and Cathair O'Kane was praising south Derry clubs for the work they're doing and discussed about how if Derry could harness a few more high quality players from north Derry, that they'd be even stronger. I'd say 90% are from south Derry club - which is a small enough area geographically.

I wonder what the breakdown is of county panels in terms of how many players they have from junior clubs? Be interesting to see I think.

[Ryan O]

Last I heard of Donnncha Gilmore he had injured his shoulder and had to get surgery. Another lad who has had his fair share of injuries. Agreed, he would be an asset for this panel and it would be great to have another city man on the panel.

Hopefully we will see him back. Could see him slotting with the other 7 of the 2020 AI Minor team on the panel - some return indeed.
Diamond, Downey, Higgins, McEvoy, McGurk, Murray, O'Donnell.
 

Thats a tough sell for me there, not sure where he fits personally, I think old rules protected individuals with slightly less football ability. ( Diplomatic?)

Don't see place for him in the back 6 or in the next 5 either. Going off 6 that started at weekend plus Clucky, Mc Evoy, Bradley, Mc Gurk, Mulholland.
O' Mianain another half back option I would think.

I get the importance of building a squad but has to be with right people, and also they need to be from South Derry.

Joking

Fairly harsh, better footballer than most you mentioned

I listened to Irish News podcast a few weeks ago and Cathair O'Kane was praising south Derry clubs for the work they're doing and discussed about how if Derry could harness a few more high quality players from north Derry, that they'd be even stronger. I'd say 90% are from south Derry club - which is a small enough area geographically.

I wonder what the breakdown is of county panels in terms of how many players they have from junior clubs? Be interesting to see I think.

From the 26 man squad on Sunday:
- 25 from South Derry (Baker only ND)
- 24 from Senior Championship
 (Murray and Loughlin only two not, both from intermediate)

I'd say his 90% estimate is low.

[93-DY-SAM]

On that podcast about Derry and Tyrone demographics Kenny Archer completely dismissed Cahair's take on GAA in the city. A few days later the BBC did a voxpop in the city to get people's thoughts on the naming of Celtic Park to FindInsurance Celtic Park. Most people said they didn't really have much of an opinion as they were more soccer people. It completely backed the point O'Kane was making a few days earlier.

[marty34]

Last I heard of Donnncha Gilmore he had injured his shoulder and had to get surgery. Another lad who has had his fair share of injuries. Agreed, he would be an asset for this panel and it would be great to have another city man on the panel.

Hopefully we will see him back. Could see him slotting with the other 7 of the 2020 AI Minor team on the panel - some return indeed.
Diamond, Downey, Higgins, McEvoy, McGurk, Murray, O'Donnell.
 

Thats a tough sell for me there, not sure where he fits personally, I think old rules protected individuals with slightly less football ability. ( Diplomatic?)

Don't see place for him in the back 6 or in the next 5 either. Going off 6 that started at weekend plus Clucky, Mc Evoy, Bradley, Mc Gurk, Mulholland.
O' Mianain another half back option I would think.

I get the importance of building a squad but has to be with right people, and also they need to be from South Derry.

Joking

Fairly harsh, better footballer than most you mentioned

I listened to Irish News podcast a few weeks ago and Cathair O'Kane was praising south Derry clubs for the work they're doing and discussed about how if Derry could harness a few more high quality players from north Derry, that they'd be even stronger. I'd say 90% are from south Derry club - which is a small enough area geographically.

I wonder what the breakdown is of county panels in terms of how many players they have from junior clubs? Be interesting to see I think.

From the 26 man squad on Sunday:
- 25 from South Derry (Baker only ND)
- 24 from Senior Championship
 (Murray and Loughlin only two not, both from intermediate)

I'd say his 90% estimate is low.

90% was my estimate.

But the point being it'd be good to find out, just curious, what's the breakdown of players' clubs in terms of senior, intermediate and junior.

I might start a thread on it. Just to compare different counties.

[HonDerry]

Last I heard of Donnncha Gilmore he had injured his shoulder and had to get surgery. Another lad who has had his fair share of injuries. Agreed, he would be an asset for this panel and it would be great to have another city man on the panel.

Hopefully we will see him back. Could see him slotting with the other 7 of the 2020 AI Minor team on the panel - some return indeed.
Diamond, Downey, Higgins, McEvoy, McGurk, Murray, O'Donnell.
 

Thats a tough sell for me there, not sure where he fits personally, I think old rules protected individuals with slightly less football ability. ( Diplomatic?)

Don't see place for him in the back 6 or in the next 5 either. Going off 6 that started at weekend plus Clucky, Mc Evoy, Bradley, Mc Gurk, Mulholland.
O' Mianain another half back option I would think.

I get the importance of building a squad but has to be with right people, and also they need to be from South Derry.

Joking

Fairly harsh, better footballer than most you mentioned

Back to the 2020 AI winning team, Gilmore was arguably the most athletic player on that team. While on the senior panel for the past couple of year he was travelling from Dublin while studying. Not many would be fit for that. And if he does indeed "have slightly less football ability," then being on the panel will surely help close any gaps.

Yes, it would be hard to get past the six established backs we have, Clucky, McEvoy, Baker, CD, McKinless, McGrogan. Ruairi Forbes has really put hand up this year too. After that, Gilmore would compete with any of the other backs on the panel.

In the long-term interests of Derry football, we should all want to see more development of city clubs, and having a couple of men like Gilmore and Baker on the panel to show them what is possible can only help with that.

[OakleafCounty]

Would like to see Gilmore and McMonagle both back in the panel. I think McMonagle wasn't given adequate game time at all when he was in, and had an excellent club championship. Not sure if he wasn't selected or opted out for this year but with Conor McAteer and Jack Doherty both opting out you'd think he would be the first forward they would be ringing.

[OakleafCounty]

Last I heard of Donnncha Gilmore he had injured his shoulder and had to get surgery. Another lad who has had his fair share of injuries. Agreed, he would be an asset for this panel and it would be great to have another city man on the panel.

Hopefully we will see him back. Could see him slotting with the other 7 of the 2020 AI Minor team on the panel - some return indeed.
Diamond, Downey, Higgins, McEvoy, McGurk, Murray, O'Donnell.
 

Thats a tough sell for me there, not sure where he fits personally, I think old rules protected individuals with slightly less football ability. ( Diplomatic?)

Don't see place for him in the back 6 or in the next 5 either. Going off 6 that started at weekend plus Clucky, Mc Evoy, Bradley, Mc Gurk, Mulholland.
O' Mianain another half back option I would think.

I get the importance of building a squad but has to be with right people, and also they need to be from South Derry.

Joking

Fairly harsh, better footballer than most you mentioned

I listened to Irish News podcast a few weeks ago and Cathair O'Kane was praising south Derry clubs for the work they're doing and discussed about how if Derry could harness a few more high quality players from north Derry, that they'd be even stronger. I'd say 90% are from south Derry club - which is a small enough area geographically.

I wonder what the breakdown is of county panels in terms of how many players they have from junior clubs? Be interesting to see I think.

Derry have always fell short when it comes to developing good players from Intermediate and Junior clubs into the County squad in comparison to Tyrone and Kerry for example. Lachlan Murray and Niall Loughlin are welcome exceptions but did they come through certain big schools to get noticed?

Paddy Cunningham is an Antrim legend in terms of his scoring and would have been good enough for Derry at the time. In his youth he grew up in the Waterside and played for Ardmore. If he hadn't moved to Belfast I don't think anyone would have heard of him because Derry wouldn't have given him a sniff.

[Newbridge Exile]

Last I heard of Donnncha Gilmore he had injured his shoulder and had to get surgery. Another lad who has had his fair share of injuries. Agreed, he would be an asset for this panel and it would be great to have another city man on the panel.

Hopefully we will see him back. Could see him slotting with the other 7 of the 2020 AI Minor team on the panel - some return indeed.
Diamond, Downey, Higgins, McEvoy, McGurk, Murray, O'Donnell.
 

Thats a tough sell for me there, not sure where he fits personally, I think old rules protected individuals with slightly less football ability. ( Diplomatic?)

Don't see place for him in the back 6 or in the next 5 either. Going off 6 that started at weekend plus Clucky, Mc Evoy, Bradley, Mc Gurk, Mulholland.
O' Mianain another half back option I would think.

I get the importance of building a squad but has to be with right people, and also they need to be from South Derry.

Joking

Fairly harsh, better footballer than most you mentioned

I listened to Irish News podcast a few weeks ago and Cathair O'Kane was praising south Derry clubs for the work they're doing and discussed about how if Derry could harness a few more high quality players from north Derry, that they'd be even stronger. I'd say 90% are from south Derry club - which is a small enough area geographically.

I wonder what the breakdown is of county panels in terms of how many players they have from junior clubs? Be interesting to see I think.

Derry have always fell short when it comes to developing good players from Intermediate and Junior clubs into the County squad in comparison to Tyrone and Kerry for example. Lachlan Murray and Niall Loughlin are welcome exceptions but did they come through certain big schools to get noticed?

Paddy Cunningham is an Antrim legend in terms of his scoring and would have been good enough for Derry at the time. In his youth he grew up in the Waterside and played for Ardmore. If he hadn't moved to Belfast I don't think anyone would have heard of him because Derry wouldn't have given him a sniff.

In was interesting listening to the Monday Club Irish news podcast a few weeks ago when  Cahair O'Kane had noted that the last player from a junior club to play senior championship football for Derry was Mickey O'Brien from  the Loup back in 1980

[Wildweasel74]

I wss looking at a Derry NFL team from the Mid 80's and 11 starters were North Derry.

[tbrick18]

Serious question - do people think Derry managers don't give consideration to players from North Derry or Intermediate/Junior clubs?
I think managers want the best players available to them, regardless of club.
Is it possible, there just isn't players at the moment from those North Derry or Junior clubs who are good enough? I think that's the more likely case rather than players not being picked due to their club.

I think Gilmore is good enough based on how he played last year, for a panel spot.
McMonagle I'm not as sure of, though I didn't see them play at club level, so maybe he is.
Ultimately, the management team pick who they think adds to the panel based on quality imo.

[OakleafCounty]

Agreed that the best players are in South Derry. That has always been the case and probably always will be but since RG came in it has become even more pronounced. In the past Dungiven would always have had 2 or 3 important players in the panel along with 1 or 2 from Glenullin or Banagher respectively and we briefly had Coleraine weighing in with the McGoldricks. But only having one Steelstown player representing the whole of North Derry highlights that there is definitely an issue with developing County standard players and some sort of intervention is required because the clubs and schools in North Derry can't seem to do it themselves.

A possible solution or catalyst could be a divisional academy for underage players not that aren't just meeting the grade for the development squads. That's really a role that schools should be fulfilling but they aren't.