The future of laois hurling

[ottoman]

For novelty I'd love to see the following system in place (obviously I know it will never pass in reality as a proposal).

8 senior teams play off with a first round do or die game (open draw as to who faces who). 4 teams progress to the next round with an open draw again. The two winning teams from these encounters proceed to play one another with the winner progressing to the final. The two losing teams then play off in a quarter final with the winner of that game facing the losing team of the two winning teams encounter in the semi-final.

The losing 8 teams play off in a senior B style competition as currently in use in the football championship.

What I like about this proposal is that it takes away the safety nets and the dead rubbers that the group games are currently throwing up. It also brings back cut-throat first round encounters that should add intensity and excitement to the championship. 

I wouldn't fancy that at all. No1, you would find it very hard to get managers, players, selectors etc to properly commit for a year for potentially 1 game of hurling. Imagine C/B and Camross or the like drawing each other in the first round. You would have to play the rest of the hurling championship with comfortably 1 of the best 4 teams in the county not in it. We don't have near enough top sides as it is, never mind eliminating 1 of them at the first round!!

Systems like this worked at county level and within some county club systems back in the day, but with the level of training and commitment required these days. Players want to be rewarded with matches and plenty of them.

[Smellyball]

For novelty I'd love to see the following system in place (obviously I know it will never pass in reality as a proposal).

8 senior teams play off with a first round do or die game (open draw as to who faces who). 4 teams progress to the next round with an open draw again. The two winning teams from these encounters proceed to play one another with the winner progressing to the final. The two losing teams then play off in a quarter final with the winner of that game facing the losing team of the two winning teams encounter in the semi-final.

The losing 8 teams play off in a senior B style competition as currently in use in the football championship.

What I like about this proposal is that it takes away the safety nets and the dead rubbers that the group games are currently throwing up. It also brings back cut-throat first round encounters that should add intensity and excitement to the championship. 

Shit proposal. Lose your first game and the year is effectively over.
Plus what's the point of playing a quarter final, followed by another game when the finalists are already decided....

- The two winning teams from these encounters proceed to play one another with the winner progressing to the final. The two losing teams then play off in a quarter final with the winner of that game facing the losing team of the two winning teams encounter in the semi-final-
I went back and read this again to try understand it.... awful.
A team could potentially lose a semi final twice in the same competition.
Lol

[Spiritof1915]

Talking to a person in the know who tells me that the 8 team format will be abandoned from 2025. It will be a 10 or 12 team format to be decided by the ccc next week.

[Laois man]

I taught clubs were voting on it if it goes ahead or not.

[Spiritof1915]

Looks like 10 team format for senior championship from 2025 onwards. Vote this evening at County board meeting
U17 championships to stay the same for another 3 years.
Not sure what the story is with the format for rest of adult championships.

[Blow-in]

10 team SHC is a farce. We are doing well having 8 teams capable of playing senior hurling but definately not 8. Clubs who voted for just looking after their own patch

[Laois man]

But 16 football teams his OK?

[Robbo]

Camross champs in 2017. Quick change the format.
Champs again in 2023. Change again.
   


Why are clubs afraid of a cut throat champ? Abbeyleix went down then won a final and stormed through to a senior final with a young team.

[burdizzo]

Yes, as Batman!!! says, 10 teams is a farce. Two groups of five, I assume? Are the leagues going to go back to 10 teams per division, as well? All these extra games, and seemingly we have no refs, either?

[Zooming around]

Have the management teams for the Laois minors and U21s for 2024 been sorted

[SpeculativeEffort]

I thought sense would prevail but no silly season is in full flow.

Clubs have decided to change the format at the top of the hurling tree before even considering how this will effect clubs lower down.

We now will be less competitive in Leinster and almost guarantees that no Laois team will gain experience at Leinster or All Ireland level at intermediate or junior level.

'Shur they don't matter'

We had a fair system. I shudder to think what patch up solution they will conjure up in January.

Clubs feathering their own nest.

Idiots.

[Verbal]

Poor poor decision.
We will look back on this with regret.

[Downtheroad]

The vote was tight but I take it some of the lower tier clubs must have voted for it. The likes of Colt/Shanahoe Rathdowney Errill and Borris/K all have 3 votes due to having nominal Gaelic football clubs which might be a factor. There is talk in Laois Today about cross over games to avoid byes. From watching the championship last summer we should have 6 rather than 10. Idiotic is the only word to describe the decision.     

[Blow-in]

But 16 football teams his OK?

No it's not okay but it seems that ship has sailed as clubs are afraid of the cut throat. Anyone who thinks the new SHC format is good needs to get themselves checked out quickly

[georgedoylesrightleg]

huge canvssing by some clubs in this,easy guesswho to. bad new for leix. very bad.