The future of laois hurling

Started by Tobias, October 27, 2015, 08:08:58 PM

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clonadmad

There's a rumor going around that Ballinakill and Abbeyleix are in talks about an amalgamation.

Haven't heard any details other than that,Ballinakill seemingly made the approach

Highly unlikely the CB would let it happen

BallyroanAbbey

heard that myself, cant see why it wouldnt be let happen vlub wouldnt be any smaller than a borris/kilcotton or a rathdowney/errill or a camross. Would mean that there would be another genuine contender in senior hurling

Don Draper

Quote from: clonadmad on October 25, 2018, 10:45:32 AM
There's a rumor going around that Ballinakill and Abbeyleix are in talks about an amalgamation.

Haven't heard any details other than that,Ballinakill seemingly made the approach

Highly unlikely the CB would let it happen
Underage amalgamation also?

Would this mean Ballinakill footballers would go kick with Ballyroan Abbey?

clonadmad

Quote from: BallyroanAbbey on October 25, 2018, 10:54:21 AM
heard that myself, cant see why it wouldnt be let happen vlub wouldnt be any smaller than a borris/kilcotton or a rathdowney/errill or a camross. Would mean that there would be another genuine contender in senior hurling

Would the fact that it's 2 "senior" clubs combining not make it a runner in the eyes of the CB?

Definitely another genuine contender across all the grades, if it was to happen

clonadmad

Quote from: Don Draper on October 25, 2018, 10:57:20 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on October 25, 2018, 10:45:32 AM
There's a rumor going around that Ballinakill and Abbeyleix are in talks about an amalgamation.

Haven't heard any details other than that,Ballinakill seemingly made the approach

Highly unlikely the CB would let it happen
Underage amalgamation also?

Would this mean Ballinakill footballers would go kick with Ballyroan Abbey?

Yes


No

Don Draper

Quote from: clonadmad on October 25, 2018, 11:40:45 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on October 25, 2018, 10:57:20 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on October 25, 2018, 10:45:32 AM
There's a rumor going around that Ballinakill and Abbeyleix are in talks about an amalgamation.

Haven't heard any details other than that,Ballinakill seemingly made the approach

Highly unlikely the CB would let it happen
Underage amalgamation also?

Would this mean Ballinakill footballers would go kick with Ballyroan Abbey?

Yes


No
It would make more sense if they did. Lads kicking with Spink/Crettyard and hurling with Ballinakill/Abbeyleix/Ballyroan, the thing is a godawful mess.

BallyroanAbu

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Under this proposal I can see no reason why a Ballinakill player cannot now play with BallyroanAbbey, if there was an amalgamation.  It may be an unintended consequence as an amalgamation would straddle two parishes.  Note the Ballinakill player would have the option to go to Spink or Ballyroanabbey likewise in the opposite direction.

redsetanta

All sounds good for a combined teams chances of winning a county championship butAbbeyleix have had some great success of the past few years at underage so they must have a decent number of younglads coming through. 2 into 1 doesn't go so many of these lads as well as Ballinakill underage will not be playing senior.
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BallyroanAbbey

Quote from: clonadmad on October 25, 2018, 11:40:07 AM
Quote from: BallyroanAbbey on October 25, 2018, 10:54:21 AM
heard that myself, cant see why it wouldnt be let happen vlub wouldnt be any smaller than a borris/kilcotton or a rathdowney/errill or a camross. Would mean that there would be another genuine contender in senior hurling

Would the fact that it's 2 "senior" clubs combining not make it a runner in the eyes of the CB?

Definitely another genuine contender across all the grades, if it was to happen

Borris in Ossory and Kilcotton were both Senior when they joined, think Rathdowney and Errill were too although maybe Errill were just after been relegated im not sure, anyhow i dont know how much influence the county board can have, they could point out that they are seperate parishes and they would have to pick one as their area although slieve margy and st fintans were multi parish clubs

Laoiseabu

Are ballinakill struggling a bit at underage ? Or are they short on numbers ? Always seems to be talk about them and an amalgamation

clonadmad

Quote from: BallyroanAbu on October 25, 2018, 11:51:17 AM
Under this proposal I can see no reason why a Ballinakill player cannot now play with BallyroanAbbey, if there was an amalgamation.  It may be an unintended consequence as an amalgamation would straddle two parishes.  Note the Ballinakill player would have the option to go to Spink or Ballyroanabbey likewise in the opposite direction.

Im sure,in the event of this amalgamation happening,Spink we would be nailing down an agreement with Crettyard pronto,they are also scouting around for partners in a juvenile amalgamation

clonadmad

Quote from: Laoiseabu on October 25, 2018, 01:36:14 PM
Are ballinakill struggling a bit at underage ? Or are they short on numbers ? Always seems to be talk about them and an amalgamation

having faced them across the grades at juvenile,in the past few years,

they would have 7/8 starters on the minor amalgamation this year with ratheniska and margy the remainder,they would have 16/17 at u15 and probably similar at u13 with the u13's padding out the older age groups number.

they would have some serious quality with the 3 Shaughnesseys at minor and Duggan/Quinlan at u15,Depth would be an issue

Jd

Shouldn't  affect spink as abbey leix are a hurling club only operating  as St lazerians  and not part of Ballyroan Abbey which is a separate  football club.  Ballinakill are a hurling  only club so their players are free to play with any football club. Ballyroan hurlers can hurl with abbeyleix but also have the option of playing with Ballypickas so you have essentially  5 clubs in the mix

BallyroanAbbey

Abbeyleix and Ballyroan Abbey are the one nearly and Ballinakill and Spink simular situation, a knock on of this is that if they join up Ballypickas might get the Spink area back which they always had until Ballinakill start objecting to it, which might free up alot of time at county board meetings if what i hear is true

SpeculativeEffort

This shouldnt be allowed happen. Both clubs are competitive in senior. Might both need a few more to win it but doesnt mean they should amalgamate.