The future of laois hurling

Started by Tobias, October 27, 2015, 08:08:58 PM

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SpeculativeEffort

Can anyone here outline the people involved (and fair play to them for getting involved) with Laois u14, u15, u16 hurlers? The ppl involved seem to have been left shorthanded. I also ask what is the level of involvement from GDO's?

Laois man

Folks we are so far behind in Our is  set up is unbelievable . We have the players but the right coaching and professional is not in place.

marty34

Quote from: Laois man on August 07, 2022, 09:30:09 PM
Folks we are so far behind in Our is  set up is unbelievable . We have the players but the right coaching and professional is not in place.

That all costs money.

Is that the issue?

Zooming around

Quote from: marty34 on August 07, 2022, 10:19:28 PM
Quote from: Laois man on August 07, 2022, 09:30:09 PM
Folks we are so far behind in Our is  set up is unbelievable . We have the players but the right coaching and professional is not in place.

That all costs money.

Is that the issue?


Surely to God it can't cost that much to run a development squad. What would you need? We have all the facilities needed: Pitches, gym, qualified S+C people. The spend needed couldn't be big. The biggest requirements are time inputted and effort. If we are short on those we are in bother.

Laois man

Still no hurling manager in place and a full round of Cship games on the weekend.

Spiritof86

Davy Fitz back in with Waterford seemingly.

clonadmad

Quote from: Zooming around on August 08, 2022, 09:45:45 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 07, 2022, 10:19:28 PM
Quote from: Laois man on August 07, 2022, 09:30:09 PM
Folks we are so far behind in Our is  set up is unbelievable . We have the players but the right coaching and professional is not in place.

That all costs money.

Is that the issue?


Surely to God it can't cost that much to run a development squad. What would you need? We have all the facilities needed: Pitches, gym, qualified S+C people. The spend needed couldn't be big. The biggest requirements are time inputted and effort. If we are short on those we are in bother.

The reality is that nearly all hurling counties are training their 2022 u14 teams since before Christmas,they are together twice a week gym work ball wall tactics nutrition etc

In a lot of cases they are being looked after by ambitious managers with designs on bringing them through to minor and possibly beyond

Laois started trials in March/April at u14 to pick a squad without a management team in place to watch the trials

Only eventually got a manager nearly a month after the trials were over, the clubs then sent in names of players which meant the trials really were for nought and they started to train in May

And we expect our 14's to compete?


Zooming around

Quote from: clonadmad on August 12, 2022, 10:12:36 AM
Quote from: Zooming around on August 08, 2022, 09:45:45 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 07, 2022, 10:19:28 PM
Quote from: Laois man on August 07, 2022, 09:30:09 PM
Folks we are so far behind in Our is  set up is unbelievable . We have the players but the right coaching and professional is not in place.

That all costs money.

Is that the issue?


Surely to God it can't cost that much to run a development squad. What would you need? We have all the facilities needed: Pitches, gym, qualified S+C people. The spend needed couldn't be big. The biggest requirements are time inputted and effort. If we are short on those we are in bother.

The reality is that nearly all hurling counties are training their 2022 u14 teams since before Christmas,they are together twice a week gym work ball wall tactics nutrition etc

In a lot of cases they are being looked after by ambitious managers with designs on bringing them through to minor and possibly beyond

Laois started trials in March/April at u14 to pick a squad without a management team in place to watch the trials

Only eventually got a manager nearly a month after the trials were over, the clubs then sent in names of players which meant the trials really were for nought and they started to train in May

And we expect our 14's to compete?


That's fairly grim.... And it isn't a financial issue either. It's an organisational disaster and is very unfair on the players.

Laois man

Dublin have a new senior hurling manager I see aswell. And still not a word from our country  board and qfinals on Sunday.???

clonadmad

Laois play Galway White which is their third team in the semifinal of the Arrabawn u15 Plate Competition on Saturday

Throw in is for 12 in Toomevara

The plate is the third tier competition in the Arrabawn which is the A u15 competition

Laois don't have a team in any of the 3 levels of the John Doyle Cup/Shield or Plate which is the B u15 competition

clonadmad

Both Laois u14 teams in the Sonny Buckley this Saturday in Waterford which is the u14 B all ireland competition

Laois 1 play Wexford 2

Laois 2 play Tipperary 2


In the quarter finals

If both teams lose they will play each other in a shield semifinal

Zooming around

Quote from: clonadmad on August 26, 2022, 09:56:06 AM
Both Laois u14 teams in the Sonny Buckley this Saturday in Waterford which is the u14 B all ireland competition

Laois 1 play Wexford 2

Laois 2 play Tipperary 2


In the quarter finals

If both teams lose they will play each other in a shield semifinal

Pure madness. Who organises this rubbish? There's no way any county should have two teams in the same competition.

clonadmad

#1872
Quote from: Zooming around on August 26, 2022, 10:06:56 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on August 26, 2022, 09:56:06 AM
Both Laois u14 teams in the Sonny Buckley this Saturday in Waterford which is the u14 B all ireland competition

Laois 1 play Wexford 2

Laois 2 play Tipperary 2


In the quarter finals

If both teams lose they will play each other in a shield semifinal

Pure madness. Who organises this rubbish? There's no way any county should have two teams in the same competition.

Are you actually blaming the organisers for where Laois find themselves ?

You do know how laois found themselves having 2 teams in the B competition?

Maybe if Laois were serious about their u14 players,(see my previous post as to the utter shambles it's been this year)the first team wouldn't be in the B competition,and they would be the same as every other county

Zooming around

#1873
Quote from: clonadmad on August 26, 2022, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: Zooming around on August 26, 2022, 10:06:56 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on August 26, 2022, 09:56:06 AM
Both Laois u14 teams in the Sonny Buckley this Saturday in Waterford which is the u14 B all ireland competition

Laois 1 play Wexford 2

Laois 2 play Tipperary 2


In the quarter finals

If both teams lose they will play each other in a shield semifinal

Pure madness. Who organises this rubbish? There's no way any county should have two teams in the same competition.

Are you actually blaming the organisers for where Laois find themselves ?

You do know how laois found themselves having 2 teams in the B competition?

Maybe if Laois were serious about their u14 players,(see my previous post as to the utter shambles it's been this year)the first team wouldn't be in the B competition,and they would be the same as every other county

[ftp=ftp://Are you actually blaming the organisers for where Laois find themselves ?]Are you actually blaming the organisers for where Laois find themselves ?[/ftp]

No. The situation we are in is all down to ourselves. I am however blaming them for putting a structure on a competition that allows two teams for the same county to meet in a national semi final. What was wrong with the old system where the A teams played in the Tony Forristal and the B teams plus some weaker counties played in the Sonny Walsh. A much better and more straightforward system.

You do know how laois found themselves having 2 teams in the B competition?[/b]]

Yes, but that in itself shows the ridiculous structure of the competition.

[ftp=ftp://[ftp=ftp://Maybe if Laois were serious about their u14 players,(see my previous post as to the utter shambles it's been this year)the first team wouldn't be in the B competition,and they would be the same as every other county][ftp]

100% correct. God be with the days when we were doing well in the Forristal, competing with and beating the top counties. We can't even get into it now. Shambolic.

clonadmad

#1874
Quote from: Zooming around on August 26, 2022, 01:15:01 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on August 26, 2022, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: Zooming around on August 26, 2022, 10:06:56 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on August 26, 2022, 09:56:06 AM
Both Laois u14 teams in the Sonny Buckley this Saturday in Waterford which is the u14 B all ireland competition

Laois 1 play Wexford 2

Laois 2 play Tipperary 2


In the quarter finals

If both teams lose they will play each other in a shield semifinal

Pure madness. Who organises this rubbish? There's no way any county should have two teams in the same competition.

Are you actually blaming the organisers for where Laois find themselves ?

You do know how laois found themselves having 2 teams in the B competition?

Maybe if Laois were serious about their u14 players,(see my previous post as to the utter shambles it's been this year)the first team wouldn't be in the B competition,and they would be the same as every other county

[ftp=ftp://Are you actually blaming the organisers for where Laois find themselves ?]Are you actually blaming the organisers for where Laois find themselves ?[/ftp]

No. The situation we are in is all down to ourselves. I am however blaming them for putting a structure on a competition that allows two teams for the same county to meet in a national semi final. What was wrong with the old system where the A teams played in the Tony Forristal and the B teams plus some weaker counties played in the Sonny Walsh. A much better and more straightforward system.

You do know how laois found themselves having 2 teams in the B competition?[/b]]

Yes, but that in itself shows the ridiculous structure of the competition.

[ftp=ftp://[ftp=ftp://Maybe if Laois were serious about their u14 players,(see my previous post as to the utter shambles it's been this year)the first team wouldn't be in the B competition,and they would be the same as every other county][ftp]

100% correct. God be with the days when we were doing well in the Forristal, competing with and beating the top counties. We can't even get into it now. Shambolic.

The laois A team found themselves in the B competition because they were the worst team in the qualifying section

That's how they found themselves down there

I presume we'd preferred if those kids got the shite kicked out of them in the A competition

At least then we could fool ourselves that we had a team in the A competition and everything was great

As for the god be with the days comment

In its 40 odd years of existence 

We have never won it

And I think Laois got to a semifinal just the once although I'm open to correction

A lot of the time we have been cannon fodder

So you can take off the rose tinted glasses there too