The future of laois hurling

Started by Tobias, October 27, 2015, 08:08:58 PM

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Laois man

So Cloughbolla are playing the 2020 U15 final soon then win or lose they are allowed join for 2021 with 2 clubs that are 10 miles away from them?????

Laois man

Next thing I will hear is there in the U15 B.

clonadmad

Quote from: Laois man on June 03, 2021, 09:25:47 AM
Next thing I will hear is there in the U15 B.

You don't get graded as u15 A or B as I explained in a previous post

Maybe that Ballacolla team are all at the age for 2020 u15 A and have no one coming through for u15 in 2021

Camross are in a similar situation,they have to bring up a whole rake of u13's in 2021 to field at u15

The Rover

Where are the following clubs,
Ballyfin,
Mountmellick,
Clonaslee

The Rover

are they Na Fianna?

great to see Portarlington and Emo.

Laois man

Sure all club would be bringing in U13s to a U15 panel most minor teams have U15s on there starting team. 2 senior clubs and a junior club going together to make up one U15 team how can the small single club match that?

clonadmad

#1356
Quote from: Laois man on June 03, 2021, 10:22:40 AM
Sure all club would be bringing in U13s to a U15 panel most minor teams have U15s on there starting team. 2 senior clubs and a junior club going together to make up one U15 team how can the small single club match that?

I presume you brought your concerns over this amalgamation to the relevant person in the county board before the gradings were finalized for the 2021 season?.

The proposed amalgamations were with all the clubs well in advance of the gradings being set in stone.

clonadmad

At U15

St. Pauls
(Courtwood & Emo)

Na Fianna
(Ballyfin, Clonaslee St Manmans, Mountmellick & Slieve Bloom)

At U17

Na Fianna
(Ballyfin, Clonaslee St Manmans, Mountmellick & Slieve Bloom)

Raheen Parish Gaels
(Clonad, Colt, Shanahoe, Trumera, Emo & Courtwood)

clonadmad

Quote from: The Rover on June 03, 2021, 10:13:22 AM
are they Na Fianna?

great to see Portarlington and Emo.

Yes its great to see both Port and Pauls building their way up through the juvenile ranks against all the odds

hopefully in a year or two they will be in a position to put in standalone minor teams also.

A lot could learn from them in the promotion of underage hurling within the county

burdizzo

St. Paul's are with RPG at u15.

Laois man

Well done to St Paul a football area trying and working hard to get hurling going in there area. But for the other join up I rest my case🤔🤔🤔

Helix.

Quote from: clonadmad on June 03, 2021, 10:50:37 AM
Quote from: The Rover on June 03, 2021, 10:13:22 AM
are they Na Fianna?

great to see Portarlington and Emo.

Yes its great to see both Port and Pauls building their way up through the juvenile ranks against all the odds

hopefully in a year or two they will be in a position to put in standalone minor teams also.

A lot could learn from them in the promotion of underage hurling within the county

No doubt it's great to see the football areas thriving in hurling underage. I hope it gets the support required to sustain it. Hopefully won't end up like a Slieve Margy and disintegrate over time.

Hopefully these age groups  get some meaningful games this year, coaching in development squads of some description and GDAs can be established in the clubs interested in doing it (across both codes).

The amalgamations as mentioned can be messy and hopefully over time will see clubs fielding on their own where they can. I see Clonad and Trumera underage at 13s on their own good to to see. Hopefully sustain players as they transition to adults.

clonadmad

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I have a simple enough solution to cutout marriage of convenience amalgamations at juvenile level and help clubs stand on their own and field juvenile teams at u13/15

The aim would to broaden the player base, give more lads game time and force clubs who are in amalgamations but using them not to develop hurling in their clubs to get their acts together.

Club identity would also be reinforced, with lads playing in their own jerseys, training in their own clubs and being coached by their own mentors.


2 Simple rules

1.Clubs stand on their own, no short term amalgamations

2.A B and C terms to be scrapped ,no more "stigmas".



At U13

Id work it as follows

The Jack Finlay league

Which would be 13 a side and clubs would enter by age in descending order their first 17 players


The Paddy Ruschitzko League

Which would be a minimum of 11 and a max of  13 a side and clubs would enter by age in descending order their first 14 players


The Pat Critchely League


Which would be a minimum of 9 and a max of  11 a side and clubs would enter by age in descending order their next 12 players.


The John Taylor League

Which would be a minimum of 7 and a max of  9 a side and clubs would enter by age in descending order their next 11 players.



Pitch sizes would reflect the numbers playing, the pitch hosting a 13 a side game would be proportionately bigger than the one hosting a 9 a side game.



So for example

Portlaoise have 29 players,their first 17  players by age go to the Finlay league and the next 12 go to the Critchley league

Trumera have 12/13 players,they automatically go to the Critchley league.

Mountmellick,Clonaslee or even a pure Football club,have 7/8/9/10/11 hurlers they go to the Taylor league.






Laois man

Good idea Clonadmad but some clubs like to take the easy way and join instead of working with what they have. Some of these clubs armies away from each other.

Laois man