Managers - "outside" versus "inside"

[AZOffaly]

In Football..

Antrim have had Liam Bradley at least.
Donegal?
Derry?
Cavan?
Fermanagh - Peter Canavan, Pete McGrath
Down?
Armagh?
Monaghan?
Tyrone?

Louth - O'Rourke
Meath - Banty
Dublin?
Wicklow - Micko
Wexford - Jason Ryan, Davey Power
Carlow - Rainbow, Bealin?
Laois - Micko, O'Flaherta
Kildare - McGeeney, Jason Ryan
Offaly - Numerous but Lyons, Hackett, Roe, Cribbin to name a few
Westmeath - Numerous, but Flanagan, Lowry, O'Flaherta, Paudie
Longford - Glen Ryan

Sligo - Kevin Walsh and others as outlined by Seanie
Galway - Kernan
Mayo - Mickey Moran
Leitrim - Dessie Dolan
Ros - Evans

Kerry - ?
Cork - ?
Tipp - John Evans. Creedon is from Cork, but is a naturalised Tipp man.
Waterford - Tom McGlinchey
Limerick - Kearns
Clare - Paudie?

Hurling (Liam McCarthy counties)

Antrim - Liam Cahill
Galway - John McIntyre? Although he's naturalised Galway I suppose.
Offaly - Numerous, Bond, Healy, Cregan, Baker
Laois - Babs?
Kilkenny?
Wexford - Cyril Farrell
Dubs - A few at least, Daly, Cunningham

Clare - Len Gaynor
Tipp - ?
Cork - ?
Waterford - Davey Fitz
Limerick - O'Grady (x2)


Where are the gaps?

[FermGael]

Fermanagh's outside men in the last 20 years of the top of my head:

Pete McGrath
Peter Canavan
John Maughan
Terry Ferguson
Charlie Mulgrew
Pat King (technically from Tyrone but living in Lisnaskea most of his life)

Had our most successful period under Mulgrew.
All Ireland Semi final, division 1/2 of the national league for a couple of years.

Fermanagh men managing the team have been:

John O'Neill
Malachy O'Rourke ( Only Fermanagh manager ever not to lose an Ulster final)
Dom Corrigan

Corrigan got us to an All Ireland quarter final and Malachy got us to an Ulster final.

Fermanagh have had some spectacular success with outside manager's and internal men.
We have also had some spectacular failures with outside managers and internal men.

[macdanger2]

Armagh? - POR
Monaghan? - MOR

[rodney trotter]

Eugene Mcgee, Liam Austin,  Martin Mchugh, Mattie Kerrigan, Val Andrews, Tommy Carr, were with Cavan.

[twohands!!!]

Donegal - Gallagher is surely an outsider given he played with 2 different counties.

[Stall the Bailer]

In Football..

Antrim have had Liam Bradley at least.
Donegal?
Derry?
Cavan?
Fermanagh - Peter Canavan, Pete McGrath
Down?
Armagh?
Monaghan?
Tyrone?

Louth - O'Rourke
Meath - Banty
Dublin?
Wicklow - Micko
Wexford - Jason Ryan, Davey Power
Carlow - Rainbow, Bealin?
Laois - Micko, O'Flaherta
Kildare - McGeeney, Jason Ryan
Offaly - Numerous but Lyons, Hackett, Roe, Cribbin to name a few
Westmeath - Numerous, but Flanagan, Lowry, O'Flaherta, Paudie
Longford - Glen Ryan

Sligo - Kevin Walsh and others as outlined by Seanie
Galway - Kernan
Mayo - Mickey Moran
Leitrim - Dessie Dolan
Ros - Evans

Kerry - ?
Cork - ?
Tipp - John Evans. Creedon is from Cork, but is a naturalised Tipp man.
Waterford - Tom McGlinchey
Limerick - Kearns
Clare - Paudie?

Hurling (Liam McCarthy counties)

Antrim - Liam Cahill
Galway - John McIntyre? Although he's naturalised Galway I suppose.
Offaly - Numerous, Bond, Healy, Cregan, Baker
Laois - Babs?
Kilkenny?
Wexford - Cyril Farrell
Dubs - A few at least, Daly, Cunningham

Clare - Len Gaynor
Tipp - ?
Cork - ?
Waterford - Davey Fitz
Limerick - O'Grady (x2)


Where are the gaps?

Derry's and Donegal's current managers are outsiders

[deiseach]

If McIntyre doesn't count in Galway hurling, Loughnane does.

[JoG2]

In Football..

Antrim have had Liam Bradley at least.
Donegal?
Derry?
Cavan?
Fermanagh - Peter Canavan, Pete McGrath
Down?
Armagh?
Monaghan?
Tyrone?

Louth - O'Rourke
Meath - Banty
Dublin?
Wicklow - Micko
Wexford - Jason Ryan, Davey Power
Carlow - Rainbow, Bealin?
Laois - Micko, O'Flaherta
Kildare - McGeeney, Jason Ryan
Offaly - Numerous but Lyons, Hackett, Roe, Cribbin to name a few
Westmeath - Numerous, but Flanagan, Lowry, O'Flaherta, Paudie
Longford - Glen Ryan

Sligo - Kevin Walsh and others as outlined by Seanie
Galway - Kernan
Mayo - Mickey Moran
Leitrim - Dessie Dolan
Ros - Evans

Kerry - ?
Cork - ?
Tipp - John Evans. Creedon is from Cork, but is a naturalised Tipp man.
Waterford - Tom McGlinchey
Limerick - Kearns
Clare - Paudie?

Hurling (Liam McCarthy counties)

Antrim - Liam Cahill
Galway - John McIntyre? Although he's naturalised Galway I suppose.
Offaly - Numerous, Bond, Healy, Cregan, Baker
Laois - Babs?
Kilkenny?
Wexford - Cyril Farrell
Dubs - A few at least, Daly, Cunningham

Clare - Len Gaynor
Tipp - ?
Cork - ?
Waterford - Davey Fitz
Limerick - O'Grady (x2)


Where are the gaps?

Derry's and Donegal's current managers are outsiders

you reckon?

Brian Mullans for a couple of years in the 90's would be Derry's only blow in...cant think of any others

[twohands!!!]

Armagh - I thinkEamonn Coleman was in charge for a short spell in the early 90s. Not 100%

[blewuporstuffed]

Charlie Mulgrew managed Fermanagh
malachy orourke is a fermanagh/tyrone man managing monaghan
paddy orourke in armagh

[Owenmoresider]

Eugene Mcgee, Liam Austin,  Martin Mchugh, Mattie Kerrigan, Val Andrews, Tommy Carr, were with Cavan.

Eamon Coleman too

[twohands!!!]

On Dublin - can't help but think that they might have had an outsider/blow-in in charge back in days of yore when they were regularly fielding teams with serious numbers of country lads.

Clare - Micko, John O' Keefe, Donie Buckley
Limerick - Mickey Ned

[FermGael]

I seem to recall Breheny, taking a break from bemoaning the emptiness of Croke Park on big rugby days in D4, saying that Tyrone have never had an outside manager. In football.

John Donnelly managed Tyrone in the 90's.
Fermanagh man

[muppet]

Mayo: Brian McDonald, Jack O'Shea & Mickey Moran.
Galway: John O'Mahoney, Peter Forde & Joe Kernan
Leitrim: John O'Mahoney, Dolan
Sligo: Millions
Roscommon: John Maughan, Evans, Tommy Carr

[muppet]

On Dublin - can't help but think that they might have had an outsider/blow-in in charge back in days of yore when they were regularly fielding teams with serious numbers of country lads.

Clare - Micko, John O' Keefe, Donie Buckley
Limerick - Mickey Ned

John Maughan also managed Clare.