Down Club Hurling & Football

Started by Lecale2, November 10, 2006, 12:06:55 AM

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Lotto

I just cannot stand the methods that our current manager uses, and more importantly has used in the past to win at all levels he has coached. He himself was entirely responsible for developing a diving culture in his club 20 odd years ago, falling at the slightest touch to earn cheap frees. Now every tackle on a Kilcoo player whether they are playing for Down or Kilcoo ends up with them holding their head, now men tell me that is just not right. There is a manly way to play football but his tactics are just cheap both on the pitch and as we have seen this year, along the line. He may be well got by the players but they'll see his true colours when he's playing against them later in the Summer. What will be the real test will be with next year's U.20's, he's had plenty to work with over the last two years but next year will be a real challenge so lets see how he does with them.

Nanderson

Quote from: Lotto on May 14, 2023, 12:52:31 PM
I just cannot stand the methods that our current manager uses, and more importantly has used in the past to win at all levels he has coached. He himself was entirely responsible for developing a diving culture in his club 20 odd years ago, falling at the slightest touch to earn cheap frees. Now every tackle on a Kilcoo player whether they are playing for Down or Kilcoo ends up with them holding their head, now men tell me that is just not right. There is a manly way to play football but his tactics are just cheap both on the pitch and as we have seen this year, along the line. He may be well got by the players but they'll see his true colours when he's playing against them later in the Summer. What will be the real test will be with next year's U.20's, he's had plenty to work with over the last two years but next year will be a real challenge so lets see how he does with them.
Why are you singling out Down and Kilcoo? I guarantee you every club and county in Ireland have players that do this. Going down after high tackles when in all honesty it doesn't even hurt just because you know its an easy free and yellow card for your opponent. You need to wise up

Lotto

Quote from: Nanderson on May 14, 2023, 01:08:49 PM
Quote from: Lotto on May 14, 2023, 12:52:31 PM
I just cannot stand the methods that our current manager uses, and more importantly has used in the past to win at all levels he has coached. He himself was entirely responsible for developing a diving culture in his club 20 odd years ago, falling at the slightest touch to earn cheap frees. Now every tackle on a Kilcoo player whether they are playing for Down or Kilcoo ends up with them holding their head, now men tell me that is just not right. There is a manly way to play football but his tactics are just cheap both on the pitch and as we have seen this year, along the line. He may be well got by the players but they'll see his true colours when he's playing against them later in the Summer. What will be the real test will be with next year's U.20's, he's had plenty to work with over the last two years but next year will be a real challenge so lets see how he does with them.
Why are you singling out Down and Kilcoo? I guarantee you every club and county in Ireland have players that do this. Going down after high tackles when in all honesty it doesn't even hurt just because you know its an easy free and yellow card for your opponent. You need to wise up

Singling it out because Laverty brought that culture of diving into his club and now his county. Nanderson, I didn't say going down after high tackles, I said going down after every tackle holding their heads. It is absolutely pathetic to watch but apparently you think it is ok to do. Who needs to wise up?

messy gael

So After EVERY tackle our lads hold their heads ?? Do you think our management team allow time at training to go over this practice ??

What way do you coach your teams Lotto ???

Nanderson

Quote from: messy gael on May 14, 2023, 02:03:01 PM
So After EVERY tackle our lads hold their heads ?? Do you think our management team allow time at training to go over this practice ??

What way do you coach your teams Lotto ???
Just seen costello go down holding his head after being pulled down. Can't believe Conor Laverty has found time to go down and coach Dublin. Either that or Costello must have been watching Kilcoo on downgaa.tv

messy gael

Quote from: Nanderson on May 14, 2023, 02:20:37 PM
Quote from: messy gael on May 14, 2023, 02:03:01 PM
So After EVERY tackle our lads hold their heads ?? Do you think our management team allow time at training to go over this practice ??

What way do you coach your teams Lotto ???
Just seen costello go down holding his head after being pulled down. Can't believe Conor Laverty has found time to go down and coach Dublin. Either that or Costello must have been watching Kilcoo on downgaa.tv

Or maybe he went to Trinity College

Lotto

Quote from: messy gael on May 14, 2023, 02:03:01 PM
So After EVERY tackle our lads hold their heads ?? Do you think our management team allow time at training to go over this practice ??

What way do you coach your teams Lotto ???

There is a direct instruction to players to stay down and hold the head after a heavy tackle, to make the most of the situation and all coming from Laverty. I know this for a fact.

Mourne Red

Quote from: Lotto on May 14, 2023, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: messy gael on May 14, 2023, 02:03:01 PM
So After EVERY tackle our lads hold their heads ?? Do you think our management team allow time at training to go over this practice ??

What way do you coach your teams Lotto ???

There is a direct instruction to players to stay down and hold the head after a heavy tackle, to make the most of the situation and all coming from Laverty. I know this for a fact.

Lotto who's your club? If you think you're saints I doubt it

messy gael

He Coaches plenty does our Lotto... Quite vocal on all fronts he is

Sheedy

Quote from: Lotto on May 14, 2023, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: messy gael on May 14, 2023, 02:03:01 PM
So After EVERY tackle our lads hold their heads ?? Do you think our management team allow time at training to go over this practice ??

What way do you coach your teams Lotto ???

There is a direct instruction to players to stay down and hold the head after a heavy tackle, to make the most of the situation and all coming from Laverty. I know this for a fact.
have a day off ffs and enjoy your Sunday.
You don't like Laverty we get it but if you think Down are worse than any other county you haven't watched much football. Kerry don't get called 'cute hoors' for their free flowing football, all the top teams make the most of every situation to gain an advantage. 

Lotto

So you are all defending the way Laverty plays and tells his team what to do. Fair enough.

Mourne Red

Quote from: Lotto on May 14, 2023, 03:42:19 PM
So you are all defending the way Laverty plays and tells his team what to do. Fair enough.

Avoid the question good lad

Lotto

Not at all. How my club plays is up to them, I'm highlighting our current manager's influence on Kilcoo and Down.

Mourne Red

Quote from: Lotto on May 14, 2023, 04:33:13 PM
Not at all. How my club plays is up to them, I'm highlighting our current manager's influence on Kilcoo and Down.

Still avoiding the question.. I've asked you your club because I can give you examples of clubs across the 4 divisions. This isn't a Laverty problem, this happens everywhere. You blanking giving your club for the 2nd time shows you know it isn't just Kilcoo and you've a fascination with bashing everyone associated with Down going back from your first post.

Was Poacher now it's Laverty - You also wanted Wee James to have the job and look how that worked out when he got it. I'd go pick up gold or bird watching to simmer yourself down a bit Lotto

Lotto

Surely there are better ways to spend your time rather than researching my posts. I'll get out of your head if you want, just ask.