Donegal v Dublin AISF 31st Aug 2014

Started by StephenC, August 11, 2014, 09:39:20 PM

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INDIANA

Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 03:12:03 PM
Define domination? Do you take it as winning every game, every year? If so, then yes, that is impossible because on a one off day, anything can happen.

But can you be consistently the best, most competitive team around, while shipping the occasional defeat? Yes you can. And that's what I mean by dominating. Man United dominated English soccer for 20 years, but they didn't win everything.

No team will ever win a 3 in a row. Man United won a number of premierships in a row.

Big problem for Dublin ironically is the shit state of Leinster football . The Leinster championship is a non contest now. It should be identified as a black spot in the GAA and money pumped in to help some of the counties.

It was the considered opinion that Dublin were the best team around . With that theory comfortably dispelled it shows Leinster football to be what it is. a waste ground

seafoid

Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2014, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 03:12:03 PM
Define domination? Do you take it as winning every game, every year? If so, then yes, that is impossible because on a one off day, anything can happen.

But can you be consistently the best, most competitive team around, while shipping the occasional defeat? Yes you can. And that's what I mean by dominating. Man United dominated English soccer for 20 years, but they didn't win everything.

No team will ever win a 3 in a row. Man United won a number of premierships in a row.

Big problem for Dublin ironically is the shit state of Leinster football . The Leinster championship is a non contest now. It should be identified as a black spot in the GAA and money pumped in to help some of the counties.

It was the considered opinion that Dublin were the best team around . With that theory comfortably dispelled it shows Leinster football to be what it is. a waste ground

Mayo had a similar problem in Connacht. 
Big gap as well between the top 4 and the also rans. 

AZOffaly

Dublin lost one game. They may well still be the best team around.  And I agree about money for the other counties. We need it in Tipp too :)

Bingo

Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2014, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 03:12:03 PM
Define domination? Do you take it as winning every game, every year? If so, then yes, that is impossible because on a one off day, anything can happen.

But can you be consistently the best, most competitive team around, while shipping the occasional defeat? Yes you can. And that's what I mean by dominating. Man United dominated English soccer for 20 years, but they didn't win everything.

No team will ever win a 3 in a row. Man United won a number of premierships in a row.

Big problem for Dublin ironically is the shit state of Leinster football . The Leinster championship is a non contest now. It should be identified as a black spot in the GAA and money pumped in to help some of the counties.

It was the considered opinion that Dublin were the best team around . With that theory comfortably dispelled it shows Leinster football to be what it is. a waste ground

I like that. Spend money elsewhere to help Dublin become stronger by providing more competition  ;D

J70

Brendan Devenney must be feeling vindicated this morning.  There were a few eyebrows raised following his post - Ulster final comments about Dublin not being able to handle Donegal.

johnneycool

Quote from: seafoid on September 01, 2014, 03:23:17 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2014, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 03:12:03 PM
Define domination? Do you take it as winning every game, every year? If so, then yes, that is impossible because on a one off day, anything can happen.

But can you be consistently the best, most competitive team around, while shipping the occasional defeat? Yes you can. And that's what I mean by dominating. Man United dominated English soccer for 20 years, but they didn't win everything.

No team will ever win a 3 in a row. Man United won a number of premierships in a row.

Big problem for Dublin ironically is the shit state of Leinster football . The Leinster championship is a non contest now. It should be identified as a black spot in the GAA and money pumped in to help some of the counties.

It was the considered opinion that Dublin were the best team around . With that theory comfortably dispelled it shows Leinster football to be what it is. a waste ground

Mayo had a similar problem in Connacht. 
Big gap as well between the top 4 and the also rans.

Kerry had an easy run in Munster too, so what does that tell you?

GJL

Delighted for Donegal. Hope and think they can beat Kerry now. As for Dublin, did they read that papers too much?

The Hill is Blue

Quote from: J70 on September 01, 2014, 03:34:03 PM
Brendan Devenney must be feeling vindicated this morning.  There were a few eyebrows raised following his post - Ulster final comments about Dublin not being able to handle Donegal.

In fairness many of those raised eyebrows were in Donegal. Judging by the bookies odds there was absolutely no money coming onto Donegal - from anywhere 
I remember Dublin City in the Rare Old Times http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T7OaDDR7i8

Mike Sheehy

We'd probably have 50 AI by now if we had stronger competition in Munster.

seafoid

Quote from: johnneycool on September 01, 2014, 03:41:44 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 01, 2014, 03:23:17 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2014, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 03:12:03 PM
Define domination? Do you take it as winning every game, every year? If so, then yes, that is impossible because on a one off day, anything can happen.

But can you be consistently the best, most competitive team around, while shipping the occasional defeat? Yes you can. And that's what I mean by dominating. Man United dominated English soccer for 20 years, but they didn't win everything.

No team will ever win a 3 in a row. Man United won a number of premierships in a row.

Big problem for Dublin ironically is the shit state of Leinster football . The Leinster championship is a non contest now. It should be identified as a black spot in the GAA and money pumped in to help some of the counties.

It was the considered opinion that Dublin were the best team around . With that theory comfortably dispelled it shows Leinster football to be what it is. a waste ground

Mayo had a similar problem in Connacht. 
Big gap as well between the top 4 and the also rans.

Kerry had an easy run in Munster too, so what does that tell you?
Kerry and Kilkenny run a different model.

J70

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 01, 2014, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: J70 on September 01, 2014, 03:34:03 PM
Brendan Devenney must be feeling vindicated this morning.  There were a few eyebrows raised following his post - Ulster final comments about Dublin not being able to handle Donegal.

In fairness many of those raised eyebrows were in Donegal. Judging by the bookies odds there was absolutely no money coming onto Donegal - from anywhere

No, I know that! Even one of the McGees was commenting on it, although his objection was that it was disrespectful to Armagh (and Monaghan) to be even discussing the match-up.

I thought it was stretching towards wishful thinking myself, but Devenney called it correctly, saying that Donegal's defensive prowess and intensity would eventually frustrate Dublin.

Bord na Mona man

Dublin's problems are a bit like what Brian Cody's were in Kilkenny about a decade ago.
In Leinster, Meath and Kildare are no longer willing or able to raise a gallop against Dublin.
Same as with Kilkenny where Offaly and Wexford lost the hunger for the fight after a couple of trimmings.

The ease in which Kilkenny breezed through Leinster contributed to Galway's ambushes of them in 2001 and 2005. Kilkenny became even more ruthless afterwards.
Dublin may have to prepare for future campaigns on the basis that they won't get hit with live ammo until August.

Rossfan

Quote from: seafoid on September 01, 2014, 03:23:17 PM
Big gap as well between the top 4 and the also rans.
That sadly is very true.
Triple Connacht Champions

Zulu

Quote from: J70 on September 01, 2014, 03:34:03 PM
Brendan Devenney must be feeling vindicated this morning.  There were a few eyebrows raised following his post - Ulster final comments about Dublin not being able to handle Donegal.

Vindicated? He fell over himself back peddling on that comment for the past two weeks.

J70

Quote from: Zulu on September 01, 2014, 04:49:06 PM
Quote from: J70 on September 01, 2014, 03:34:03 PM
Brendan Devenney must be feeling vindicated this morning.  There were a few eyebrows raised following his post - Ulster final comments about Dublin not being able to handle Donegal.

Vindicated? He fell over himself back peddling on that comment for the past two weeks.

Hadn't seen that.

Should have stood his ground if that is the case!

I did hear him clarify that he had been asked to give his opinion on the potential match up and was not being disrespectful to Armagh.