All-Ireland Minor Football Championship 2014

Started by Syferus, July 20, 2014, 03:32:48 PM

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Who will win the All-Ireland?

Donegal
11 (18.6%)
Dublin
10 (16.9%)
Kerry
16 (27.1%)
Mayo
22 (37.3%)

Total Members Voted: 59

Voting closed: August 23, 2014, 01:44:07 PM

Syferus

Quote from: macdanger2 on August 03, 2014, 10:09:49 PM
So will the Mayo v donegal game be on before the Mayo kerry game or the other SF?

Either way, it's a balls for some set of supporters.

Thanks for the support Rossfan ya bitter hoor

It's Mayo v Kerry/Kildare, Donegal v Dublin/Cork.

Mayo's minor game will be before your senior game and the other game will be on the other semi-final bill.

macdanger2

Quote from: Syferus on August 03, 2014, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 03, 2014, 10:09:49 PM
So will the Mayo v donegal game be on before the Mayo kerry game or the other SF?

Either way, it's a balls for some set of supporters.

Thanks for the support Rossfan ya bitter hoor

It's Mayo v Kerry/Kildare, Donegal v Dublin/Cork.

Mayo's minor game will be before your senior game and the other game will be on the other semi-final bill.

Oh right, thought it was setup similar to the seniors and we were playing donegal. Should be fair enough so

Rossfan

Quote from: macdanger2 on August 03, 2014, 10:09:49 PM
So will the Mayo v donegal game be on before the Mayo kerry game or the other SF?

Thanks for the support Rossfan ya bitter hoor
Will ye ( 12 Mayos and 3 Rossies that is) not be playing the winners of Kerry v Kildare??
Why the fcuk would I support ye're( plus 3 of ours) buicíns? Didn't ye win it last year anyway.
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Syferus

Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2014, 11:14:30 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 03, 2014, 10:09:49 PM
So will the Mayo v donegal game be on before the Mayo kerry game or the other SF?

Thanks for the support Rossfan ya bitter hoor
Will ye ( 12 Mayos and 3 Rossies that is) not be playing the winners of Kerry v Kildare??
Why the fcuk would I support ye're( plus 3 of ours) buicíns? Didn't ye win it last year anyway.

Sure the hoors are Connacht men still. Keep it west of the Shannon.

macdanger2

Quote from: Syferus on August 03, 2014, 11:23:46 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2014, 11:14:30 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 03, 2014, 10:09:49 PM
So will the Mayo v donegal game be on before the Mayo kerry game or the other SF?

Thanks for the support Rossfan ya bitter hoor
Will ye ( 12 Mayos and 3 Rossies that is) not be playing the winners of Kerry v Kildare??
Why the fcuk would I support ye're( plus 3 of ours) buicíns? Didn't ye win it last year anyway.

Sure the hoors are Connacht men still. Keep it west of the Shannon.

Exactly. Same as I was supporting Galway today and sligo & Ross last week. I may not like ye that much but I'll still support ye agin themmuns  ;)

Rossfan

I'd always shout for ( never support please note - only support Ros teams and my clubeen)  the most deserving team rather than just someone who plays in the same Championship as ussuns ;)
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Syferus

Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2014, 11:40:27 PM
I'd always shout for ( never support please note - only support Ros teams and my clubeen)  the most deserving team rather than just someone who plays in the same Championship as ussuns ;)

To hell or to the most deserving team doesn't have the same ring to it.

ck

I was at the Ross Donegal game on Saturday. Roscommon were as defensive as any team I've seen. 3 permanent sweepers and I counted 14 men behind the ball at one stage. They were 6 down and still played like this. On that basis alone they had no right to win the game. I'd love to ask Fergal O'Donnell what his thinking was. They were never going to win the game playing like that. Donegal were by far the better team but struggled with a damage limitation style blanket.
In saying that, I wouldn't be putting money on Donegal for AI. They are average enough with some poor enough players. They won't be in same league as Kerry or Dublin.

Syferus

Quote from: ck on August 04, 2014, 12:50:40 AM
I was at the Ross Donegal game on Saturday. Roscommon were as defensive as any team I've seen. 3 permanent sweepers and I counted 14 men behind the ball at one stage. They were 6 down and still played like this. On that basis alone they had no right to win the game. I'd love to ask Fergal O'Donnell what his thinking was. They were never going to win the game playing like that. Donegal were by far the better team but struggled with a damage limitation style blanket.
In saying that, I wouldn't be putting money on Donegal for AI. They are average enough with some poor enough players. They won't be in same league as Kerry or Dublin.

They had a burst for ten minutes after half time but they were hardly far better. By the end they had fell to pieces.

Donegal also operated very defensively themselves with barely any more men in our half when the got the ball. It was all about running from deep from both sides. Trying to single out one side or the other is ridiculous, particularly the one that went in with reason to be defensive.

ck

Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 01:07:48 AM
Quote from: ck on August 04, 2014, 12:50:40 AM
I was at the Ross Donegal game on Saturday. Roscommon were as defensive as any team I've seen. 3 permanent sweepers and I counted 14 men behind the ball at one stage. They were 6 down and still played like this. On that basis alone they had no right to win the game. I'd love to ask Fergal O'Donnell what his thinking was. They were never going to win the game playing like that. Donegal were by far the better team but struggled with a damage limitation style blanket.
In saying that, I wouldn't be putting money on Donegal for AI. They are average enough with some poor enough players. They won't be in same league as Kerry or Dublin.

They had a burst for ten minutes after half time but they were hardly far better. By the end they had fell to pieces.

Donegal also operated very defensively themselves with barely any more men in our half when the got the ball. It was all about running from deep from both sides. Trying to single out one side or the other is ridiculous, particularly the one that went in with reason to be defensive.

We'll have to agree to disagree syferus. Donegal operated a sweeper who attacked at every opportunity. Bar that it was man for man. Roscommon sat at least 4 men at all times. Incredibly defensive. Had they not got a goal they would have fizzled out and lost by 7 or 8 points. They smacked of a team who simply aimed to keep the score down.
In saying that the best individual players were on the Rossies team. 6, 11 and 13 were pure quality. 13 was as good as I've seen at minor level. Donegal didn't have any players of that quality but I still maintain they were by far the better team. They were there to win the game. Ross were there to frustrate, spoil and negate. Winning would have been a bonus. O'Donnell will have come away with credit for pushing it close. Personally I wouldn't give him any credit. He had a better team than his tactics suggested in my opinion.
It'll be a Dublin Kerry All Ireland minor final. Mayo and Donegal very much behind at the moment I would guess.

Syferus

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Quote from: ck on August 04, 2014, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 01:07:48 AM
Quote from: ck on August 04, 2014, 12:50:40 AM
I was at the Ross Donegal game on Saturday. Roscommon were as defensive as any team I've seen. 3 permanent sweepers and I counted 14 men behind the ball at one stage. They were 6 down and still played like this. On that basis alone they had no right to win the game. I'd love to ask Fergal O'Donnell what his thinking was. They were never going to win the game playing like that. Donegal were by far the better team but struggled with a damage limitation style blanket.
In saying that, I wouldn't be putting money on Donegal for AI. They are average enough with some poor enough players. They won't be in same league as Kerry or Dublin.

They had a burst for ten minutes after half time but they were hardly far better. By the end they had fell to pieces.

Donegal also operated very defensively themselves with barely any more men in our half when the got the ball. It was all about running from deep from both sides. Trying to single out one side or the other is ridiculous, particularly the one that went in with reason to be defensive.

We'll have to agree to disagree syferus. Donegal operated a sweeper who attacked at every opportunity. Bar that it was man for man. Roscommon sat at least 4 men at all times. Incredibly defensive. Had they not got a goal they would have fizzled out and lost by 7 or 8 points. They smacked of a team who simply aimed to keep the score down.
In saying that the best individual players were on the Rossies team. 6, 11 and 13 were pure quality. 13 was as good as I've seen at minor level. Donegal didn't have any players of that quality but I still maintain they were by far the better team. They were there to win the game. Ross were there to frustrate, spoil and negate. Winning would have been a bonus. O'Donnell will have come away with credit for pushing it close. Personally I wouldn't give him any credit. He had a better team than his tactics suggested in my opinion.
It'll be a Dublin Kerry All Ireland minor final. Mayo and Donegal very much behind at the moment I would guess.

You didn't see how loose we were at the back in the Connacht final. As has been said repeatedly, it wasn't our greatest minor side but they had a work ethic that dove-tailed very nicely with a defensive game-plan designed to put us in a position to challenge in the second half.

The general idea was entirely correct for a team that enter the game as massive underdogs. Aside from a blitz after half-time we effectively slowed down and nullified Donegal playing that style. The difference ended up being those ten minutes after half-time where our defensive structure was no where near as stable as it was in the first half.

It's always easy to watch a team pour forward effectively when legs have tired and marking becomes ropey and think they should have been playing that way from the beginning but playing that style for the entire match was never going to give us the best possible chance.

It was the right thing to do in general terms but we could have transitioned into attack more effectively than we did.

I don't see where being down on Mayo has come from, they've got better with every game and will give Kerry as good a rattle as anyone. Cork made Dublin look vulnerable today and I'd expect them to give Donegal more space than we did, we'll see if they can use if effectively. Minor is never a sure thing.

ck

Not down on Mayo at all. They play Kerry who apparently are the best Kerry minor side in 30 years according to Kerry people I've spoken to. On that basis I don't see Mayo threatening them but who knows. Dublin on the other side should come through on their home pitch against a fine Donegal side but I think they just lack that cutting edge player or two to really do damage.

As an aside, I train our club minor team and we went to Kerry for a trip at Easter and if half what I heard is true no-one will touch Kerry.

Chimley

Quote from: ck on August 04, 2014, 10:19:23 PM
Not down on Mayo at all. They play Kerry who apparently are the best Kerry minor side in 30 years according to Kerry people I've spoken to. On that basis I don't see Mayo threatening them but who knows. Dublin on the other side should come through on their home pitch against a fine Donegal side but I think they just lack that cutting edge player or two to really do damage.

As an aside, I train our club minor team and we went to Kerry for a trip at Easter and if half what I heard is true no-one will touch Kerry.

Talk is cheap though. We have a very good record at this level and will not surrender the AI crown without a fight. I hope but doubt that the Kerry camp are that complacent.

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What are the odds on a Kerry Dublin Minor/Senor final this year?

Rossfan

We'll have to avoid the Dublin media wankfest for a few weeks then.
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