Sigerson Cup 2012

Started by Blowitupref, December 19, 2011, 05:14:32 PM

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Any craic

See Niall McKenna's goal for QUB tonight in the Sigerson, the only goal tho Maynooth came back to win by a point - http://tiny.cc/xisag - the Maynooth winner will go up shortly beside this video at the same link

regulator

McKenna had some goal. Very tight games, was at it myself, Queens didnt play well but still had the chances to win but were wasteful. Fair play to Maynooth though, very hard to break down and had a lot of big men

NP 76

The goal was all Mc kenna done all night . Queens very wasteful from play and from frees . Maynooth the better team on the night great tackling all over the field . Thought the Maynooth no 4 was excellent

Blowitupref

Quarter Finals to be played in neutral venues on the 15th/16th February

N.U.I.G v UUJ

IT Sligo V UCC

N.U.I.M V UCD

DIT v DCU or IT Cork*


*Played on Tuesday 7th
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Lone Shark

Quote from: subterranean saffron on February 01, 2012, 04:39:32 PM
Really low scoring game between NUIG and St. Mary's. Can anyone shed any light on the statement below the result with regards St. Mary's point after the whistle?

It actually wasn't bad viewing as games go, certainly much better than the scoreline suggested. St Mary's won't win too many friends with their style of play, but while that won't bother them, I dare say they won't win too many matches with it either. It shows how devoted you are to pulling men back when on a couple of occasions Marys had the ball around their own 45m line, in the last ten minutes, with a man advantage and one or two points down and they still had only one player in the opposition half. That would be fine if you had pacey players who cut run into the space and beat a man with a sidestep or a little burst of speed but they didn't. A big reason for the low scoring was that St Marys were essentially trying to walk the ball as far as the opposition 20m line.

Michael Stephenson came on as a sub after about ten minutes in the second half and he added a lot to them in an attacking sense. He took one good point with a very natural looking kick on the turn, the kind of thing they hadn't managed all day, and then he got clean through on goal after two minutes of injury time. You could debate that he should have just punched it over the bar, but the game was there to be won, he went for it and his shot was very well taken - only Donal O'Sullivan in the NUIG goal made an incredible diving save, as good as I've ever seen. That deflected the ball out for a 45 and I did see the ref say something to the guy taking it. Obviously I couldn't hear, but (admittedly NUIG) players said to me afterwards that they heard him say it was the last kick, and they did line the goal and didn't bother marking for a short kick.

The 45 was taken and never really got off the ground and the ref blew up as the ball was in flight, once he could see that it was never going to go over the bar. A St Marys forward caught it and kicked it straight over, but the whistle had gone. In fairness he had played the right amount of injury time, and if it was the case that he was just allowing time for the 45 to be taken, then he did that.

I heard a rumour afterwards that one of the St Marys players hit the ref after the game, but that was just word going round so I've no idea if that's true or not. Hopefully not, I honestly thought it was an unlucky end to the game from their point of view, but no more than that. 

Lone Shark

Quote from: Blowitupref on February 01, 2012, 11:18:34 PM
Quarter Finals to be played in neutral venues on the 15th/16th February

N.U.I.G v UUJ

IT Sligo V UCC

N.U.I.M V UCD

DIT v DCU or IT Cork*


*Played on Tuesday 7th

It won't be neutral venues - first named team at home, with the exception of the last game, which is the wrong way around - DCU/Cork IT will be at home. I think the 200km exception rule still applies so Sligo vs Cork will probably be in Clare somewhere, but NUIG might be at home regardless - I think that's part of the deal when you're the host college for the final. I hope so, I'd look forward to that game and needless to say I won't be making a midweek trek to Longford or Cavan.

everymanaman

The following is the report on incidents at the end of the NUIG/ St Mary's match. Doesn't make for great reading.


http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2012/0202/higheredu.html

Dylan

Good summary of the game above from Lone Shark. Marys showed a lack of ambition that was ultimately their undoing.

The scenes at the end were just apalling. As a lover of all things gaelic football, I am getting completely fed up with having to look at this kind of rubbish dragging the game through the mud.

The early reporting of the end of the match is inaccurate in that it gives the impression that the ref blew the whistle while the ball was in the air and travelling over the bar. In actuality, the 45 was taken (very poorly) and the whistle went just as a Mary's player won posession facing away from goal completely surrounded by defenders. NUIG immediately stopped and started celebrating and then Mary's kicked the ball over the bar.

The referee was immediately surrounded, jostled, verbally abused, harangued and harrassed by Mary's players and their coach (not Paddy Tally) who was at the forefront of the dishing out of abuse. It seemed lost on them all that having played for 60 minutes in perfect conditions, 40 of the minutes against 14 men, they were unable to score more than 5 points. They had a free shot at goal from 45m to tie the game at the death and failed to get it within 25m of the target. Yet the defeat was the referees fault.

I didn't witness the later scenes on the approach to the dressing rooms but it sounds even worse than the immediate aftermath of the game. I am of the opinion purely on the basis of what I saw that Mary's should be thrown out of next years competition. The current sanctions dealing with this kind of thing are clearly not enough of a deterrent. Many players and officials (and spectators) appear to feel completely entitled to abuse referees in whatever manner they see fit for any perceived injustice visited upon them.

A culture of respect for referees and ultimately for the game itself has to be developed. This is a priority issue and far more important than payment to managers despite what Messrs. Cooney and Duffy might think. The alternative is to have games overshadowed every week by reports of brawls and baiting of referees. Great and all as the game is, it cannot withstand such constant negative publicity.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Lone Shark on February 02, 2012, 08:12:25 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 01, 2012, 11:18:34 PM
Quarter Finals to be played in neutral venues on the 15th/16th February

N.U.I.G v UUJ

IT Sligo V UCC

N.U.I.M V UCD

DIT v DCU or IT Cork*


*Played on Tuesday 7th

It won't be neutral venues - first named team at home, with the exception of the last game, which is the wrong way around - DCU/Cork IT will be at home. I think the 200km exception rule still applies so Sligo vs Cork will probably be in Clare somewhere, but NUIG might be at home regardless - I think that's part of the deal when you're the host college for the final. I hope so, I'd look forward to that game and needless to say I won't be making a midweek trek to Longford or Cavan.
Yes has been decided only IT Sligo v UCC will be played in a neutral venue.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Any craic

See a review of the First Round videos here, soft peno for DIT tho I think they'd of won anyway - http://www.he.gaa.ie/home/he-gaa-tv

lenny

Quote from: Dylan on February 02, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Good summary of the game above from Lone Shark. Marys showed a lack of ambition that was ultimately their undoing.

The scenes at the end were just apalling. As a lover of all things gaelic football, I am getting completely fed up with having to look at this kind of rubbish dragging the game through the mud.

The early reporting of the end of the match is inaccurate in that it gives the impression that the ref blew the whistle while the ball was in the air and travelling over the bar. In actuality, the 45 was taken (very poorly) and the whistle went just as a Mary's player won posession facing away from goal completely surrounded by defenders. NUIG immediately stopped and started celebrating and then Mary's kicked the ball over the bar.

The referee was immediately surrounded, jostled, verbally abused, harangued and harrassed by Mary's players and their coach (not Paddy Tally) who was at the forefront of the dishing out of abuse. It seemed lost on them all that having played for 60 minutes in perfect conditions, 40 of the minutes against 14 men, they were unable to score more than 5 points. They had a free shot at goal from 45m to tie the game at the death and failed to get it within 25m of the target. Yet the defeat was the referees fault.

I didn't witness the later scenes on the approach to the dressing rooms but it sounds even worse than the immediate aftermath of the game. I am of the opinion purely on the basis of what I saw that Mary's should be thrown out of next years competition. The current sanctions dealing with this kind of thing are clearly not enough of a deterrent. Many players and officials (and spectators) appear to feel completely entitled to abuse referees in whatever manner they see fit for any perceived injustice visited upon them.

A culture of respect for referees and ultimately for the game itself has to be developed. This is a priority issue and far more important than payment to managers despite what Messrs. Cooney and Duffy might think. The alternative is to have games overshadowed every week by reports of brawls and baiting of referees. Great and all as the game is, it cannot withstand such constant negative publicity.

Wasnt at the game but what is extremely worrying is that this group of players are our teachers of the future. They are supposed to be setting an example and showing respect.

shark


shawshank

Quote from: lenny on February 03, 2012, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: Dylan on February 02, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Good summary of the game above from Lone Shark. Marys showed a lack of ambition that was ultimately their undoing.

The scenes at the end were just apalling. As a lover of all things gaelic football, I am getting completely fed up with having to look at this kind of rubbish dragging the game through the mud.

The early reporting of the end of the match is inaccurate in that it gives the impression that the ref blew the whistle while the ball was in the air and travelling over the bar. In actuality, the 45 was taken (very poorly) and the whistle went just as a Mary's player won posession facing away from goal completely surrounded by defenders. NUIG immediately stopped and started celebrating and then Mary's kicked the ball over the bar.

The referee was immediately surrounded, jostled, verbally abused, harangued and harrassed by Mary's players and their coach (not Paddy Tally) who was at the forefront of the dishing out of abuse. It seemed lost on them all that having played for 60 minutes in perfect conditions, 40 of the minutes against 14 men, they were unable to score more than 5 points. They had a free shot at goal from 45m to tie the game at the death and failed to get it within 25m of the target. Yet the defeat was the referees fault.

I didn't witness the later scenes on the approach to the dressing rooms but it sounds even worse than the immediate aftermath of the game. I am of the opinion purely on the basis of what I saw that Mary's should be thrown out of next years competition. The current sanctions dealing with this kind of thing are clearly not enough of a deterrent. Many players and officials (and spectators) appear to feel completely entitled to abuse referees in whatever manner they see fit for any perceived injustice visited upon them.

A culture of respect for referees and ultimately for the game itself has to be developed. This is a priority issue and far more important than payment to managers despite what Messrs. Cooney and Duffy might think. The alternative is to have games overshadowed every week by reports of brawls and baiting of referees. Great and all as the game is, it cannot withstand such constant negative publicity.

Wasnt at the game but what is extremely worrying is that this group of players are our teachers of the future. They are supposed to be setting an example and showing respect.

The ref is responsible for many of the most annoying things that happen in games. That is because there is absolutely no consistency in refereeing. One free given in one passage of play would ignored in the next. You cannot get any consistency in the foul leading to all sorts of questions being asked if you lost by a point. NOT condoning this at all , but can understand perfectly why it happens. Until the referring standards are sorted out these events will without doubt continue to happen

shark

5 each HT. DCU all the possession but very wasteful

shark