Dublin - Are the Rare Auld Times coming back?

Orangemac · March 06, 2011, 10:58:16 PM

Halfway through the league and Dublin have had 3 good wins with players to come back into the team. This combined with last years showings when they improved as they went through the Championship and should have beaten Cork have raised expectation levels but can this be the year they end the famine?

Reasons why they can win it

1) Pat Gilroy - Many thought he was on a hiding to nothing when he took over after a couple of years of humiliating defeats but few could argue he has done a great job. From last years league when they started with ultra defensive tactics to the changes he made throughout last years championship he has done a remarkable job with a reasonably low amount of new players.

2) Bernard Brogan - along with the Gooch the best player in Ireland at present.Unmarkeable last year and seems to be more of a team player this year.

3) Standard - Tyrone and Kerry aren't at the level they were at a few years ago and Dublin have no fear of Cork.

Reasons why they can't.

1) Hype - last year no one give them much hope against Tyrone after previous years. Expectations have been raised and Gilroy will have this to contend with if they get on a roll early on.

2) Bernard Brogan - at times last year he carried the team. If he doesn't hit the levels of last year or gets injured is there enough in the forward line to trouble top teams?

3) Discipline - Cost them v Cork last year. Have conceded heavily enough so far in league this year.

What does anyone think? If they were playing Tyrone again in the QF would you back them?

orangeman · March 06, 2011, 11:13:32 PM

Quote from: Orangemac on March 06, 2011, 10:58:16 PM
Halfway through the league and Dublin have had 3 good wins with players to come back into the team. This combined with last years showings when they improved as they went through the Championship and should have beaten Cork have raised expectation levels but can this be the year they end the famine?

Reasons why they can win it

1) Pat Gilroy - Many thought he was on a hiding to nothing when he took over after a couple of years of humiliating defeats but few could argue he has done a great job. From last years league when they started with ultra defensive tactics to the changes he made throughout last years championship he has done a remarkable job with a reasonably low amount of new players.

2) Bernard Brogan - along with the Gooch the best player in Ireland at present.Unmarkeable last year and seems to be more of a team player this year.

3) Standard - Tyrone and Kerry aren't at the level they were at a few years ago and Dublin have no fear of Cork.

Reasons why they can't.

1) Hype - last year no one give them much hope against Tyrone after previous years. Expectations have been raised and Gilroy will have this to contend with if they get on a roll early on.

2) Bernard Brogan - at times last year he carried the team. If he doesn't hit the levels of last year or gets injured is there enough in the forward line to trouble top teams?

3) Discipline - Cost them v Cork last year. Have conceded heavily enough so far in league this year.

What does anyone think? If they were playing Tyrone again in the QF would you back them?

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What odds you offering ?

Jinxy · March 06, 2011, 11:15:56 PM

I think Kerry are the biggest threat to the Dubs.
They'd have no fear of anyone else, Cork & Tyrone included.
I just think Kerry on a big day in Croke Park might be too cute for them.

Jinxy · March 06, 2011, 11:17:04 PM

Needless to say, the Dubs will be progressing via the back-door.
Laois will hammer them!

orangeman · March 06, 2011, 11:21:32 PM

Quote from: Jinxy on March 06, 2011, 11:17:04 PM
Needless to say, the Dubs will be progressing via the back-door.
Laois will hammer them!

Can't see them being bet in Leinster this year. No offence to all those fine teams in Leisnter.

DUBSFORSAM1 · March 07, 2011, 09:07:47 AM

Quote from: Orangemac on March 06, 2011, 10:58:16 PM
Halfway through the league and Dublin have had 3 good wins with players to come back into the team. This combined with last years showings when they improved as they went through the Championship and should have beaten Cork have raised expectation levels but can this be the year they end the famine?

Reasons why they can win it

1) Pat Gilroy - Many thought he was on a hiding to nothing when he took over after a couple of years of humiliating defeats but few could argue he has done a great job. From last years league when they started with ultra defensive tactics to the changes he made throughout last years championship he has done a remarkable job with a reasonably low amount of new players.

2) Bernard Brogan - along with the Gooch the best player in Ireland at present.Unmarkeable last year and seems to be more of a team player this year.

3) Standard - Tyrone and Kerry aren't at the level they were at a few years ago and Dublin have no fear of Cork.

Reasons why they can't.

1) Hype - last year no one give them much hope against Tyrone after previous years. Expectations have been raised and Gilroy will have this to contend with if they get on a roll early on.

2) Bernard Brogan - at times last year he carried the team. If he doesn't hit the levels of last year or gets injured is there enough in the forward line to trouble top teams?

3) Discipline - Cost them v Cork last year. Have conceded heavily enough so far in league this year.

What does anyone think? If they were playing Tyrone again in the QF would you back them?

With a full team comfortably back them.....

Hardy · March 07, 2011, 09:20:03 AM

I support the hype. In fact the AI championship is just too small for Dublin. Let's call it the World Championship.

Maiden1 · March 07, 2011, 10:13:05 AM

Quote from: Orangemac on March 06, 2011, 10:58:16 PM
Halfway through the league and Dublin have had 3 good wins with players to come back into the team. This combined with last years showings when they improved as they went through the Championship and should have beaten Cork have raised expectation levels but can this be the year they end the famine?

Reasons why they can win it

1) Pat Gilroy - Many thought he was on a hiding to nothing when he took over after a couple of years of humiliating defeats but few could argue he has done a great job. From last years league when they started with ultra defensive tactics to the changes he made throughout last years championship he has done a remarkable job with a reasonably low amount of new players.

2) Bernard Brogan - along with the Gooch the best player in Ireland at present.Unmarkeable last year and seems to be more of a team player this year.

3) Standard - Tyrone and Kerry aren't at the level they were at a few years ago and Dublin have no fear of Cork.

Reasons why they can't.
1) Hype - last year no one give them much hope against Tyrone after previous years. Expectations have been raised and Gilroy will have this to contend with if they get on a roll early on.

2) Bernard Brogan - at times last year he carried the team. If he doesn't hit the levels of last year or gets injured is there enough in the forward line to trouble top teams?

3) Discipline - Cost them v Cork last year. Have conceded heavily enough so far in league this year.

What does anyone think? If they were playing Tyrone again in the QF would you back them?

4) They always manage to f&*k it up

heffo · March 07, 2011, 10:28:00 AM

Quote from: Hardy on March 07, 2011, 09:20:03 AM
I support the hype. In fact the AI championship is just too small for Dublin. Let's call it the World Championship.

Agreed.

Declan · March 07, 2011, 12:04:39 PM

QuoteI support the hype. In fact the AI championship is just too small for Dublin. Let's call it the World Championship

I'd be all for that as well

Kerry Mike · March 07, 2011, 12:12:22 PM

QuoteI think Kerry are the biggest threat to the Dubs.

Not at all, we are in a long transitional period, The Jackeens for Sam in 2011.

Chris agus Snoop · March 07, 2011, 01:46:57 PM

Lets see what happens when other teams catch up fitness wise.

heffo · March 07, 2011, 01:51:37 PM

Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on March 07, 2011, 01:46:57 PM
Lets see what happens when other teams catch up fitness wise.

I love that old chestnut.

Sure every other county is doing a couple of laps, followed by a few pints and twenty major after three rounds of the league.

AbbeySider · March 07, 2011, 02:22:52 PM

Quote from: heffo on March 07, 2011, 01:51:37 PM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on March 07, 2011, 01:46:57 PM
Lets see what happens when other teams catch up fitness wise.

I love that old chestnut.

Sure every other county is doing a couple of laps, followed by a few pints and twenty major after three rounds of the league.

No, they are only after starting their endurance work and had concentrated on strength and conditioning whereas Dublin were at their fitness work much earlier.

They wont make it past Leinster

heffo · March 07, 2011, 03:23:42 PM

Quote from: AbbeySider on March 07, 2011, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: heffo on March 07, 2011, 01:51:37 PM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on March 07, 2011, 01:46:57 PM
Lets see what happens when other teams catch up fitness wise.

I love that old chestnut.

Sure every other county is doing a couple of laps, followed by a few pints and twenty major after three rounds of the league.

No, they are only after starting their endurance work and had concentrated on strength and conditioning whereas Dublin were at their fitness work much earlier.

The other 31 counties??