Israel Attack Humanitarian Ship, 10 men killed

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seafoid

Quote from: cicfada on November 05, 2011, 09:36:18 PM
Until the yanks start threatening the Israelis  with a reduction in aid the Israelis will continue to do what they like! So these flotillas are pointless really. The aid will never get to the people of Gaza and the only  thing resulting from  this is to direct some attention to the siege!  It's an awful situation for the Palestinians and it is so counterproductive  for the  Israelis as the only response  that  a lot of Palesitinians  will  engage in is joining the suicide  bomber groups!!! The Israelis are b**tards no doubt but I just  wish that Arafat had accepted the huge concessions that he was offered by Ehud Barak in the talks in  Camp David  in the 90s! I mean wouldn't they be a bit better off now??

This is what Arafat was offered in the West Bank (it doesn't include Gaza)

The green is the land the Palestinians would have had for the state and the blue is Israeli controlled.

  http://bigthink.com/ideas/21423

Would you think this is good enough for a state ?

Groucho

Arafat......classy guy ::)

In August 2002, the Israeli Military Intelligence Chief alleged that Arafat's personal wealth was in the range of USD $1.3 billion.[105] In 2003 the International Monetary Fund (IMF) conducted an audit of the PNA and stated that Arafat diverted $900 million in public funds to a special bank account controlled by Arafat and the PNA Chief Economic Financial adviser. However, the IMF did not claim that there were any improprieties, and it specifically stated that most of the funds had been used to invest in Palestinian assets, both internally and abroad.[106][107]

However in 2003, a team of American accountants–hired by Arafat's own finance ministry–began examining Arafat's finances; this team reached a different conclusion. The team claimed that part of the Palestinian leader's wealth was in a secret portfolio worth close to $1 billion, with investments in companies like a Coca-Cola bottling plant in Ramallah, a Tunisian cell phone company and venture capital funds in the US and the Cayman Islands. The head of the investigation stated that "although the money for the portfolio came from public funds like Palestinian taxes, virtually none of it was used for the Palestinian people; it was all controlled by Arafat. And none of these dealings were made public."[108]

An investigation conducted by the General Accounting Office reported that Arafat and the PLO held over $10 billion in assets even at the time when he was publicly claiming bankruptcy
I like to see the fairways more narrow, then everyone would have to play from the rough, not just me

Arthur_Friend

Quote from: Groucho on November 06, 2011, 11:09:04 AM
Arafat......classy guy ::)

In August 2002, the Israeli Military Intelligence Chief alleged that Arafat's personal wealth was in the range of USD $1.3 billion.[105] In 2003 the International Monetary Fund (IMF) conducted an audit of the PNA and stated that Arafat diverted $900 million in public funds to a special bank account controlled by Arafat and the PNA Chief Economic Financial adviser. However, the IMF did not claim that there were any improprieties, and it specifically stated that most of the funds had been used to invest in Palestinian assets, both internally and abroad.[106][107]

However in 2003, a team of American accountants–hired by Arafat's own finance ministry–began examining Arafat's finances; this team reached a different conclusion. The team claimed that part of the Palestinian leader's wealth was in a secret portfolio worth close to $1 billion, with investments in companies like a Coca-Cola bottling plant in Ramallah, a Tunisian cell phone company and venture capital funds in the US and the Cayman Islands. The head of the investigation stated that "although the money for the portfolio came from public funds like Palestinian taxes, virtually none of it was used for the Palestinian people; it was all controlled by Arafat. And none of these dealings were made public."[108]

An investigation conducted by the General Accounting Office reported that Arafat and the PLO held over $10 billion in assets even at the time when he was publicly claiming bankruptcy

Have you checked the sources from your wikipedia cut and paste?

That figure of 10 billion comes from a website calling itself 'Christian Action for Israel'.

mylestheslasher

Quote from: Arthur_Friend on November 06, 2011, 12:16:27 PM
Quote from: Groucho on November 06, 2011, 11:09:04 AM
Arafat......classy guy ::)

In August 2002, the Israeli Military Intelligence Chief alleged that Arafat's personal wealth was in the range of USD $1.3 billion.[105] In 2003 the International Monetary Fund (IMF) conducted an audit of the PNA and stated that Arafat diverted $900 million in public funds to a special bank account controlled by Arafat and the PNA Chief Economic Financial adviser. However, the IMF did not claim that there were any improprieties, and it specifically stated that most of the funds had been used to invest in Palestinian assets, both internally and abroad.[106][107]

However in 2003, a team of American accountants–hired by Arafat's own finance ministry–began examining Arafat's finances; this team reached a different conclusion. The team claimed that part of the Palestinian leader's wealth was in a secret portfolio worth close to $1 billion, with investments in companies like a Coca-Cola bottling plant in Ramallah, a Tunisian cell phone company and venture capital funds in the US and the Cayman Islands. The head of the investigation stated that "although the money for the portfolio came from public funds like Palestinian taxes, virtually none of it was used for the Palestinian people; it was all controlled by Arafat. And none of these dealings were made public."[108]

An investigation conducted by the General Accounting Office reported that Arafat and the PLO held over $10 billion in assets even at the time when he was publicly claiming bankruptcy

Have you checked the sources from your wikipedia cut and paste?

That figure of 10 billion comes from a website calling itself 'Christian Action for Israel'.

Maybe so - but he was no saviour to the Palestinians!

In the End He Became a Little Dictator, Falsely Promising Democracy
Arafat Died Years Ago
by ROBERT FISK

The Independent

Yet again, Yasser Arafat is dying. We thought he'd been killed back in 1982 when the Israeli air force flew around Beirut attacking apartment blocks and homes they thought he was visiting. Their bombs tore to pieces hundreds of innocent Lebanese civilians but Arafat was never there. Then we thought he'd died in a plane crash in the Libyan desert — but it was the pilot who died and the bodyguard who shielded him in his airline seat. Then we thought he'd bought it on the road to Baghdad when he suffered a blood clot. But Jordanian doctors brought him back to the world of the living. Now, again, we're preparing for the old man's death. Yet like the Pope, he seems to go on and on and on.

He is a wearying man, not just in his repeated death but in life as well, a man who married the Revolution — as his wife was to discover — rather than develop a coherent strategy for a people under occupation. And in the end, he became like so many other Arab leaders — and as the Israelis intended him to be — a little dictator, handing out dollars and euros to his ageing but loyal cronies, falsely promising democracy, clinging to power in his shambles of an office in Ramallah. Had he done what he was supposed to do — had he governed "Palestine" (the quotation marks are daily more important) with ruthlessness and crushed all opposition and accepted all Israel's demands — he would be able now to visit Jerusalem, even Washington.

I recall how, just after the famous handshake on the White House lawn, I told an Israeli friend in Jerusalem that it was only fair that he would now have to live with Arafat next door. After all, I said, I'd had to suffer his near-occupation of West Beirut for seven years. Those were the days when he promised to return all the refugees of pre-1948 Palestine to their homes, when he deliberately sacrificed thousands of Palestinian lives in the Tel el-Zaatar camp to earn the world's sympathy, when he tolerated aircraft hijacking and talked about "democracy among the guns" and eventually left his people in Beirut to Israel's murderous henchmen in the Phalange.

The Arafat mug was never going to find its way on to university walls like Guevara or even Castro. There was — and still is — a kind of seediness about it and maybe that's what the Israelis saw too, a man who could be relied on to police his people in their little Bantustans, another proxy to run the show when occupation became too tiresome. "Can Arafat control his own people?" That's what the Israelis asked and the world obligingly asked the same question without realising the truth: that this was precisely why Arafat had been allowed back to the Occupied Territories — to "control" his people. The only time he did stand up to his Israeli-American masters — when he refused to accept 64 per cent of the 22 per cent of Palestine that was left to him — he returned in triumph to Gaza and allowed the Israelis to claim he was offered 95 per cent but chose war.

When he started negotiating with the Israelis, he had not even seen a Jewish settlement but he put his trust in the Americans — always a dangerous thing to do in the Middle East — and when Israel began to renege on the withdrawals, there was no one to help him. Israel broke withdrawal agreements five times.

Then came intifada two and the Palestinian suicide bombings and 11 September 2001, and it was only a matter of time — about six hours, to be exact — before Israel said Arafat was linked to Osama bin Laden and that Ariel Sharon, too, was fighting world terror in his battle with the "terrorist" Arafat. In a country where the word "terrorist" is even more promiscuously used than it is in the United States, it was applied to Arafat by every Israeli official and every right-wing journalist outside Israel.

Sitting like an old and dying owl in his Ramallah headquarters, it must have struck Arafat that he had one unique distinction. Some "terrorists" — Khomeini, for example — die of old age. Some — Gaddafi comes to mind — become statesmen courtesy of mendacious folk like Tony Blair. Others — Abu Nidal is an obvious candidate — get murdered, often by their own side. But Arafat is perhaps the only man who started off as a "super-terrorist", was turned overnight by the Oslo agreement into a "super-statesman" and then went back to being a "super-terrorist" again. No wonder he often seems to be losing attention, making factual errors, falling ill.

Like all dictators, he made sure that there was no succession. It might have been Abu Jihad, but he was murdered by the Israelis in Tunis. It might have been one of the militant leaders whom the Israelis have been executing by air attack over the past two years. It could still be, just, the imprisoned Marwan Barghouti. And, if the Israelis decide that he should be the leader — be sure the Palestinians won't get any choice in the matter — then the prison doors may open for Barghouti.

Yes, Arafat might die. The funeral would be the usual excruciating rhetoric bath. But the truth, I fear, is that Arafat died years ago.

seafoid

Even if Arafat was no Brian Cowen, does it justify the continued denial of their basic human rights to 3.5 million stateless Palestinians ?
Israel is run by sociopaths. If the Palestinians were lead by Dag Hammarskold or Mother Teresa nothing would change.

Deputy Knesset speaker Danny Danon explains that the Palestinians have no right to live  on their own land in their own country


http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/talktojazeera/2011/08/201185103022120129.html

mylestheslasher

Quote from: seafoid on November 06, 2011, 01:42:55 PM
Even if Arafat was no Brian Cowen, does it justify the continued denial of their basic human rights to 3.5 million stateless Palestinians ?
Israel is run by sociopaths. If the Palestinians were lead by Dag Hammarskold or Mother Teresa nothing would change.

Deputy Knesset speaker Danny Danon explains that the Palestinians have no right to live  on their own land in their own country


http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/talktojazeera/2011/08/201185103022120129.html

I agree but while it is right to point out the crimes if Israel we do ourselves no favours by saying everyone on the other side was angelic. We must call it as it is and the truth is Arafat was not a good leader at all.

seafoid

Nobody is angelic in the real world. Sure he  was corrupt .   
I think the biggest mistake Arafat made was to trust the Israelis.
They never wanted peace. They just want the land.
Just look at the Israeli response to the UNESCO vote.

I can't see how anyone else would have made a difference.

cicfada

Below is what Arrafat was offered in the camp david talks! What a fool not to take it!!

•Israeli redeployment from 95% of the West Bank and 100% of the Gaza Strip
•The creation of a Palestinian state in the areas of Israeli withdrawal
•The removal of isolated settlements and transfer of the land to Palestinian control
•Other Israeli land exchanged for West Bank settlements remaining under Israeli control
•Palestinian control over East Jerusalem, including most of the Old City
•"Religious Sovereignty" over the Temple Mount, replacing Israeli sovereignty in effect since 1967
And  this is from palestine facts .org! Full link below:

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1991to_now_campdavid_2000.php

seafoid


http://ustogaza.org/latest/human-rights-activists-on-boats-to-gaza-beaten-by-israeli-forces-denied-visits-by-lawyers-and-access-to-families-once-in-custody/


Human Rights Activists on Boats to Gaza Beaten by Israeli Forces, Denied Visits by Lawyers and Access to Families Once in Custody
Contact: Felice Gelman, (917)-912-2597

New York, NY 11/6/2011 – Although Freedom Waves to Gaza organizers have not yet had direct communication with the people taken into custody by Israeli armed forces as they tried to peacefully sail to Gaza last week. Information is emerging that Israeli armed forces tactics in confronting the non-violent activists have been violent and dangerous. This despite claims from the IDF spokesperson that "every precaution will be taken for the safety of the activists."

Prisoners include U.S. citizen Kit Kittredge, a delegate on the Tahrir from Quilcene, WA, and Jihan Hafiz, a U.S. citizen and journalist from Democracy Now, the national news program. Both have been advised by the U.S. consul in Israel to sign an Israeli deportation agreement. Both have refused because the statement says they came into Israel illegally and will not attempt another effort to break the Gaza blockade. Both statements are untrue.

A letter from Canadian David Heap, smuggled from the Givon prison, states that he was tasered and beaten when the Israeli Navy attacked the Tahrir. Irish prisoner, Fintan Lane, in a telephone call from Givon prison, reported that the takeover of the Saoirse was also violent. The Tahrir and the Saoirse were forced, by Israeli warships, to crash into each other, crippling both ships.

Palestinian Israeli Majd Kayal, a delegate aboard the Tahrir, who was arrested and released confirms these reports. "As a Palestinian, I was not surprised at how the IDF treated us," said Kayal, after his release, noting this kind of abuse is a daily reality for the 1.5 million people of Gaza, who are indefinitely detained in an open-air prison. "However, for the Canadians and other Westerners onboard, it was a complete shock."

"Israeli brutality and the unnecessary use of force against non-violent protests is well documented. What has happened to the passengers on the Tahrir and the Saoirse is just a tiny fraction of the daily abuse directed at Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank as part of Israel's occupation policy," said U.S. coordinator Jane Hirschmann. "Nonetheless, all people – Palestinians under occupation and peace activists kidnapped and imprisoned – have human rights under international law that civilized governments must respect. The purpose of the boats' voyage to Gaza was to demonstrate that Israel continually violates those laws, and that the U.S. government cares more about Israel than about its own citizens.


seafoid

Quote from: cicfada on November 06, 2011, 09:22:41 PM
Below is what Arrafat was offered in the camp david talks! What a fool not to take it!!

•Israeli redeployment from 95% of the West Bank and 100% of the Gaza Strip
•The creation of a Palestinian state in the areas of Israeli withdrawal
•The removal of isolated settlements and transfer of the land to Palestinian control
•Other Israeli land exchanged for West Bank settlements remaining under Israeli control
•Palestinian control over East Jerusalem, including most of the Old City
•"Religious Sovereignty" over the Temple Mount, replacing Israeli sovereignty in effect since 1967
And  this is from palestine facts .org! Full link below:




http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1991to_now_campdavid_2000.php

Israel would have held on to East Jerusalem and 2 settlement blocs  that effectively carve the West Bank into 3 disconnected
cantons.

http://www.mideastweb.org/lastmaps.htm

Anyway it doesn't matter now. Israel is f*cked.

Tyrones own

Quote from: seafoid on November 06, 2011, 09:27:15 PM
Quote from: cicfada on November 06, 2011, 09:22:41 PM
Below is what Arrafat was offered in the camp david talks! What a fool not to take it!!

•Israeli redeployment from 95% of the West Bank and 100% of the Gaza Strip
•The creation of a Palestinian state in the areas of Israeli withdrawal
•The removal of isolated settlements and transfer of the land to Palestinian control
•Other Israeli land exchanged for West Bank settlements remaining under Israeli control
•Palestinian control over East Jerusalem, including most of the Old City
•"Religious Sovereignty" over the Temple Mount, replacing Israeli sovereignty in effect since 1967
And  this is from palestine facts .org! Full link below:




http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1991to_now_campdavid_2000.php

Israel would have held on to East Jerusalem and 2 settlement blocs  that effectively carve the West Bank into 3 disconnected
cantons.

http://www.mideastweb.org/lastmaps.htm

Anyway it doesn't matter now. Israel is f*cked.

Is that mere wishful thinking or fact...cause we've heard that all before you know!
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
  - Walter Lippmann

seafoid

http://irishshiptogaza.org/?p=861

Hijacking of MV Saoirse "Violent and Dangerous" – call received directly from Israeli prison
Posted by Kev

Irish Ship to Gaza National Coordinator Fintan Lane was able to make a phone call this afternoon from the Israeli prison in which he and 13 other Irish citizens are being held. He communicated the following to the Irish Ship to Gaza team in Dublin:

The takeover of the MV Saoirse was violent and dangerous. Despite very clear protests from the occupants of the two boats that they did not want to be taken to Israel, they were forcibly removed from the boats in a violent manner. The whole takeover took about three hours. It began with Israeli forces hosing down the boats with high pressure hoses and pointing guns at the passengers through the windows. I was hosed down the stairs of the boat. Windows were smashed and the bridge of the boat nearly caught fire. The boats were corralled to such an extent that the two boats, the Saoirse and the Tahrir, collided with each other and were damaged, with most of the damage happening to the MV Saoirse.  The boats nearly sank. The method used in the takeover was dangerous to human life. The Israeli forces initially wanted to leave the boats at sea, but the abductees demanded that they not be left to float at sea, for they would have been lost and possibly sunk. All belongings of the passengers and crew were taken from them and they still do not know if and what they will get back.  The 14 Irish citizens remain in Givon prison.

The phone call was very rushed and ended abruptly with Fintan saying, "I have to go."

Claudia Saba, spokesperson for Irish Ship to Gaza, who received the call from Lane, said:

"The account received from Fintan Lane flatly contradicts the Israeli narrative that Israel 'took every precaution necessary to ensure the safety of the activists on board the vessels'. It is a small miracle that no one was seriously injured during this obviously very violent boarding of the Freedom Waves boats."

Irish Ship to Gaza spokesperson Laurence Davis added:

"This account confirms our fear that the hijacking of the boats was very violent, and explains the time lag between the point at which we lost contact with the boats on Wednesday at 11:12 am (Irish time) and news of the passengers' arrival at Ashdod not before 5pm."

In an interview he gave to www.Omniatv.com, Greek captain of the Tahrir Giorgos Klontzas has confirmed the use of violence on him by Israeli soldiers during his interrogation.

The Canadian boat lawyers are today being denied access to the detainees by the prison authorities. We were informed by the Canadian land team: "They kicked the lawyers out at 5pm yesterday, after only three hours, and today they have not been responding to any calls (either on the main line or the cell number of one of the prison officials) to coordinate a visit or arrange phone contact with the detainees."

We also have reports that at least one of the Canadian boat participants was electrically tased and beaten. Canadian David Heap is now limping as a result.

seafoid

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/512198

Lina Attalah, Al-Masry Al-Youm English's managing editor, recently took part in the "Freedom Waves"  flotilla carrying aid to Gaza. She was captured at sea by Israeli security forces on Friday along with the rest of the passengers, 27 activists and journalists from around the world. She returned to Egypt safely on Saturday. The two boats, one Irish and one Canadian, were an attempt to draw the world's attention to the Israeli blockade imposed on Gaza since 2007. This is her account.

Inside the Tahrir boat to Gaza Friday morning, as everyone sat opposite computer screens, updating the world about our trip, David Heap, one of the boat's organizers, made a grand entrance to our make-shift media center.

"50! We're 50 miles away from Gaza," he screamed to applause.

The previous night, we were expecting Israeli intervention at any point. Israel has a record of attacking solidarity boats in international waters as far as 100 nautical miles off Gaza's shore. But when we woke up to a sunny day and found that our communications system was working, we thought that arrival to Gaza was imminent. Activists on board spent the first half of the day decorating the boat with pro-Gaza flags, signs and artwork.

The enthusiasm, however, didn't eliminate our expectation of Israeli intervention. Activists were working on English and Hebrew signs reading "this is piracy" and "this is kidnapping," in anticipation of a possible attack in international waters.

We were right to temper our optimism.Towards the early afternoon, we saw three Israeli warships in the horizon. We knew that the moment had come.

At that point, some activists and journalists on board started throwing equipment into the sea, fearing that the information stored on their technology could be used by our potential captors to implicate other activists who were not on the boat.

Soon after, the Israeli presence in the waters around us intensified. We counted at least 15 ships, four of which were warships, and the rest a mix of smaller boats and water cannons. From inside the smaller boats, dozens of Israeli soldiers pointed their machines guns at us. This is when our communications system was jammed and we lost contact with the world.

Our boat's captain started receiving radio messages from the Israeli navy, asking about the organizers and the destination of the trip. Ehab Lotayef, another organizer of the Tahrir boat to Gaza, communicated with the Israeli navy, telling them that our destination was Gaza and that any attempt to arrest us would be illegal. When the navy repeated over the radio, "Tahrir, what is your final destination?" Lotayef, who is a poet, responded, "the betterment of mankind."

As Israeli naval vessels loomed around our boat, the Israelis made a proposition that they would send one person to inspect for weapons, and if he found nothing, they would let us pass. The proposition was met with skepticism among the activists, although some thought this could really be a way to get to Gaza. The Irish boat, which was sailing with us, staunchly refused the proposition.

As the Israeli ships closed in on us, we found the Irish boat heading into our direction and hitting our boat so aggressively that they damaged their entry point. We speculated that this could be a form of resistance to the forced Israeli boarding, but we couldn't communicate with them to find out.

At this point, the Israelis had withdrawn their proposition and sent radio messages to our boat, asking us to stop sailing because they would board the boat and take us to the Israeli port of Ashdod. When our boat refused to surrender, they aimed their canons at us, showering us with salty water. This came a few minutes after Heap had warned us, "get ready for a shower." The radio warnings from the Israeli navy continued, asking the boat's members to remove the net surrounding the boat, which we had put in place as a form of protection.

The boat had become highly unstable and panic was in the air. But a beautiful rainbow in the sky caught our attention, and, in what was a surreal moment, we started capturing it with our cameras.

Then we were outmaneuvered. Israeli ships hit our boat and soldiers started boarding. Dozens of masked soldiers screamed "on your knees," and "hands up." One soldier filmed the whole process. At the same time, a group of soldiers invaded the boat's lower level, where we had set up our media center. I don't remember at what point an Israeli flag was flown from the boat.

After some initial checks, we also found ourselves below deck, where we were seated one next to the other. We learned that the boat was already being steered towards Ashdod. When one of the soldiers asked if we needed anything, Lotayef and Heap said "we need our boat back." They were ignored.

We were then allowed to go one by one to collect our luggage from the ship's hold. I found no computers or any other electronics left, and our luggage was dumped in piles, with soldiers lying on the floor in what became a mess. That same area had been our temporary home for the past four days as we worked, ate and slept there. The scene of a dismantled home was quite disturbing.

After two hours we reached Ashdod. Unfortunately, I couldn't see what became of the other passengers because I was called out first. We exchanged painful gazes at each other as I was taken out, wondering when and where next we would meet next.

On the way out of the boat, I was showered with flashes as Israeli soldiers took pictures. The place we were taken to at Ashdod is a featureless detention facility for "illegal migrants." I was strip-searched and had my flip cam, personal diary, USB stick, mobile phone and voice recorder confiscated. My computer and camera had already been taken by the soldiers on the boat. I tried to negotiate to get my things back - or at least to recuperate my personal diary, where I had compiled minute details of the trip - but failed. I did manage to keep two books they wanted to confiscate.

My thoughts, in the meantime, were with the boat's activists, who pledged to peacefully resist being taken out of the boat. They agreed that they would only leave the boat by being forcibly dragged. As I was searched, I heard Heap screaming inside the facility. "Ehab, can you hear me?," "Majd, can you hear me?," "Kit, can you hear me?," "Karen, can you hear me?," "Michael, can you hear me?" His calls echoed in the large detention facility, piercing through its noisy corridors. But I heard no responses from fellow activists.

I was brought somewhere else, where I was interrogated by police officers for 30 minutes and where my finger prints and photo were taken. During the interrogation, I was asked about my professional history, the different organizations I worked for and how I knew Freedom Waves, our flotilla to Gaza, and the activists involved. As I was facing the police officer, I saw the reflection of George Klontzas, the boat's captain, in the mirror. His legs were cloaked in metal chain.

"Are you aware that you were heading into a closed military zone?" the police officer asked. I said yes. When he asked why I did that, I told him I was covering an activists' quest to challenge the Gaza blockade. He smiled and let me go.

I was driven by two diplomats from the Egyptian Embassy to the Taba border crossing and crossed over to Egypt, quite smoothly and unharmed.

***

Right before setting sail, I was sitting with Heap in an office at the Fethiye port in Turkey, sending last minute emails. Amid frantic emailing, I overheard Heap calling his son on Skype and telling him, "I love you, you know that." I was a little disconcerted. I hadn't thought to do the same. I asked him, "Do you really think we need to call our folks and tell them we love them before we sail?" He told me, "We have to tell them we love them all the time." At the time of writing this article, he and Lotayef were still detained in Israel.

One of the two books that escaped confiscation was Mediterranean Crossings by Iain Chambers. As the soldier removed my bookmark, I naively rushed to mark the page by folding it. "The Mediterranean becomes a site for an experiment to a different form of history," read some of Chambers' words on that page. Perhaps the line describes the act of appropriating international waters in a quest to change the status quo.

Tyrones own

 :D
Especially this bit;

"The boat had become highly unstable and panic was in the air. But a beautiful rainbow in the sky caught our attention, and, in what was a surreal moment, we started capturing it with our cameras"
:'(  ....... Baa :D
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
  - Walter Lippmann

muppet

Quote from: Tyrones own on November 07, 2011, 06:12:15 PM
:D
Especially this bit;

"The boat had become highly unstable and panic was in the air. But a beautiful rainbow in the sky caught our attention, and, in what was a surreal moment, we started capturing it with our cameras"
:'(  ....... Baa :D

Fox News headline:

Surrender Cheese eating Pinkos Capture Israeli Rainbow................
MWWSI 2017