Antrim Hurling

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NAG1

Quote from: cfclg on November 04, 2015, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2015, 10:59:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Three other candidates have emerged for the Antrim job.

Jim Greene ( Waterford. Kevin Ryan's buddy  ::))

Matty Lennon from Armagh

And an ex Cork hurler.  ???
its an absolute f**king joke the way this has been handled.  A man was approached and asked to take it. He said when club hurling was done for the year he'd be interested.  Now it's over and it's quite clear the little rat doesn't want to give him it now.  Love him or hate him from loughgiel or rival club. Pj O Mullan deserves his shot at this job, the way the county board and one individual is dealing with this is f**king laughable!!!!    Go and give it to some so called name and fire another 50K plus at him.it will come down to the blame game again when he flops.  This county needs an in house man that knows club hurling inside out to take the county forward.
Is there anything in this county that can just run smoothly? Why is everything a total balls up?

We are an unbelievable mess. Its actually laughable.

See the 'little rat' mentioned above, I presume that is reference to J. Edwards? If so, what has he done at a playing/coaching level in Hurling? That's an honest question, i'm trying to figure out what credentials he has to be able to give opinions on who hurling management should be.

Again I would seriously guard against this getting into this personal level of attack.

If you dont know the facts of the matter or cant read into them through some of the posts then dont be jumping in and naming people.


Sleeping giant

Quote from: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 04, 2015, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2015, 10:59:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Three other candidates have emerged for the Antrim job.

Jim Greene ( Waterford. Kevin Ryan's buddy  ::))

Matty Lennon from Armagh

And an ex Cork hurler.  ???
its an absolute f**king joke the way this has been handled.  A man was approached and asked to take it. He said when club hurling was done for the year he'd be interested.  Now it's over and it's quite clear the little rat doesn't want to give him it now.  Love him or hate him from loughgiel or rival club. Pj O Mullan deserves his shot at this job, the way the county board and one individual is dealing with this is f**king laughable!!!!    Go and give it to some so called name and fire another 50K plus at him.it will come down to the blame game again when he flops.  This county needs an in house man that knows club hurling inside out to take the county forward.
Is there anything in this county that can just run smoothly? Why is everything a total balls up?

We are an unbelievable mess. Its actually laughable.

See the 'little rat' mentioned above, I presume that is reference to J. Edwards? If so, what has he done at a playing/coaching level in Hurling? That's an honest question, i'm trying to figure out what credentials he has to be able to give opinions on who hurling management should be.

Again I would seriously guard against this getting into this personal level of attack.

If you dont know the facts of the matter or cant read into them through some of the posts then dont be jumping in and naming people.
no names were named by me.  And the roll of the eyes means what???   Am sure anyone who knows who's on our county board knows who the "wee rat" is.   Tell me am wrong nag?!?   Everyone was happy that Barr was getting to pick the manager.  When he does he's under minded.  And yes.  He was!!!  Fact.  Joke of a county set up all round. Absolute shambles.
1983 & 2012 All Ireland Champions.

NAG1

Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 04, 2015, 01:03:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 04, 2015, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2015, 10:59:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Three other candidates have emerged for the Antrim job.

Jim Greene ( Waterford. Kevin Ryan's buddy  ::))

Matty Lennon from Armagh

And an ex Cork hurler.  ???
its an absolute f**king joke the way this has been handled.  A man was approached and asked to take it. He said when club hurling was done for the year he'd be interested.  Now it's over and it's quite clear the little rat doesn't want to give him it now.  Love him or hate him from loughgiel or rival club. Pj O Mullan deserves his shot at this job, the way the county board and one individual is dealing with this is f**king laughable!!!!    Go and give it to some so called name and fire another 50K plus at him.it will come down to the blame game again when he flops.  This county needs an in house man that knows club hurling inside out to take the county forward.
Is there anything in this county that can just run smoothly? Why is everything a total balls up?

We are an unbelievable mess. Its actually laughable.

See the 'little rat' mentioned above, I presume that is reference to J. Edwards? If so, what has he done at a playing/coaching level in Hurling? That's an honest question, i'm trying to figure out what credentials he has to be able to give opinions on who hurling management should be.

Again I would seriously guard against this getting into this personal level of attack.

If you dont know the facts of the matter or cant read into them through some of the posts then dont be jumping in and naming people.
no names were named by me.  And the roll of the eyes means what???   Am sure anyone who knows who's on our county board knows who the "wee rat" is.   Tell me am wrong nag?!?   Everyone was happy that Barr was getting to pick the manager.  When he does he's under minded.  And yes.  He was!!!  Fact.  Joke of a county set up all round. Absolute shambles.

SG never said you did if you read up you will see which post I was referring too on both occasions I have commented.

I also never said that anyone did or didnt undermine CB. I also have not commented on the process I raised my concern over one issue.

Seamroga in exile

Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
what issues do you have with the proposed back room team?
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

NAG1

#30394
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2015, 02:17:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
what issues do you have with the proposed back room team?

Exactly that, the lack of quality. I look around every good back room team coaches and selectors and what I see is not only gifted coaches but people who know what it takes ex players at that level. People who not only know what it is to talk about it but when they are standing with a player from any of the other clubs involved in the squad that the players will have that instant respect.

The players can stand there and maybe even think to themselves what the hell is this guy asking from me but in the back of their mind they know the coach/ selector has been through it and has that understanding of what/how the player is feeling at that point.

We all know that not all ex players make good managers/ coaches but that is where you need a blend of both.

That is my opinion.

Sleeping giant

Quote from: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2015, 02:17:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
what issues do you have with the proposed back room team?

Exactly that, the lack of quality. I look around every good back room team coaches and selectors and what I see is not only gifted coaches but people who know what it takes ex players at that level. People who not only know what it is to talk about it but when they are standing with a player from any of the other clubs involved in the squad that the players will have that instant respect.

The players can stand there and maybe even think to themselves what the hell is this guy asking from me but in the back of their mind they know the coach/ selector has been through it and has that understanding of what/how the player is feeling at that point.

We all know that not all ex players make good managers/ coaches but that is where you need a blend of both.

That is my opinion.
who would you like to be there then?   Now remember it has to be someone who is willing to put in a lot of time and possibly get very little thanks for it.  The men mentioned above have all committed to the cause. And all feel they could bring something to the table.  Surely a bit of a different approach and going down this route can't hurt.  Or will we go and throw a heep more  money at the free state coach and expect miracles?! 
1983 & 2012 All Ireland Champions.

Sleeping giant

Kevin Ryan named Ulster manager for the up and coming inter provincial series.  Wonder who picks that?
1983 & 2012 All Ireland Champions.

Seamroga in exile

Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2015, 07:50:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 04, 2015, 07:49:28 PM
Kevin Ryan named Ulster manager for the up and coming inter provincial series.  Wonder who picks that?
Neil McManus.
;D
;D
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

Two Hands FFS

Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2015, 07:50:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 04, 2015, 07:49:28 PM
Kevin Ryan named Ulster manager for the up and coming inter provincial series.  Wonder who picks that?
Neil McManus.
;D
Nah hes been too busy lately

Sleeping giant

Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 04, 2015, 08:19:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2015, 07:50:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 04, 2015, 07:49:28 PM
Kevin Ryan named Ulster manager for the up and coming inter provincial series.  Wonder who picks that?
Neil McManus.
;D
Nah hes been too busy lately
;D
1983 & 2012 All Ireland Champions.

WTF u on about?

Quote from: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2015, 02:17:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
what issues do you have with the proposed back room team?

Exactly that, the lack of quality. I look around every good back room team coaches and selectors and what I see is not only gifted coaches but people who know what it takes ex players at that level. People who not only know what it is to talk about it but when they are standing with a player from any of the other clubs involved in the squad that the players will have that instant respect.

The players can stand there and maybe even think to themselves what the hell is this guy asking from me but in the back of their mind they know the coach/ selector has been through it and has that understanding of what/how the player is feeling at that point.

We all know that not all ex players make good managers/ coaches but that is where you need a blend of both.

That is my opinion.

Sambo and woody? Highly respected ex players when they came in. Even humpy at Bcastle this year as another example. The game now is light years ahead of what it was when these former greats were playing. With pj you know what ur going to get. A well organised professional set up were everyone knows their role. Wouldn't that be a step forward from our current set up? Also the next management team would need to take the under 21 set up more seriously than previous years.

Sleeping giant

Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 04, 2015, 10:57:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2015, 02:17:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
what issues do you have with the proposed back room team?

Exactly that, the lack of quality. I look around every good back room team coaches and selectors and what I see is not only gifted coaches but people who know what it takes ex players at that level. People who not only know what it is to talk about it but when they are standing with a player from any of the other clubs involved in the squad that the players will have that instant respect.

The players can stand there and maybe even think to themselves what the hell is this guy asking from me but in the back of their mind they know the coach/ selector has been through it and has that understanding of what/how the player is feeling at that point.

We all know that not all ex players make good managers/ coaches but that is where you need a blend of both.

That is my opinion.

Sambo and woody? Highly respected ex players when they came in. Even humpy at Bcastle this year as another example. The game now is light years ahead of what it was when these former greats were playing. With pj you know what ur going to get. A well organised professional set up were everyone knows their role. Wouldn't that be a step forward from our current set up? Also the next management team would need to take the under 21 set up more seriously than previous years.
listen if it makes sense.It won't happen!!! 
1983 & 2012 All Ireland Champions.

Na Glinntí Glasa

im willing to give PJ a chance at it but club management isnt the same as a county set up.

At Lgiel he had a world of talent all wanting to play for him, cash in the background from people willing to give it up due to their love of the club and players wanting to die for the jersey.

He wont have that at the county and thats where the difficulties lie for him.


Seamroga in exile

#30403
 So, the choice is give it to PJ, who knows the players,  or a mercenary that doesn't. Hasn't the latter been tried to death?
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

MoChara

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2015, 09:31:01 AM
So, the choice is give it to PJ, who knows the players,  or a mercenary that doesn't. Hasn't the latter been tried to death?


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