The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

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Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 25, 2009, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 25, 2009, 03:27:56 PM
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Quote from: aroundincircles on May 25, 2009, 01:37:11 PM
Is Strachan going for sure? Was talking to some one during the week who is close to john hartson and he said Strachan was quitting no matter what the outcome was yesterday. When will he go if he does? new manager needs to be installed asap to give him a chance to make some changes

Heard on the radio earlier on today that Celtic Park will be issuing a statement later on this week.

Who ever next manager is some passion needs to be restored somehow. For the last 6 or 7 years atmosphere inside stadium has been desperate nearly afraid to sing or chant incase some one gets offended.


The problem is that in this "PC" world people are afraid to sing as someone will most suredly take offence. I think your right in saying that passion needs to be restored, and imho to do this we need a "Celtic minded" manager, on this point Coyle would be the ideal choice (not sure about Moyes - think he may be a Rangers fan even though he played for us).

Rangers fan or not, he would be my ideal choice...

Yes he would be the pick of the list, but I think it's just wishful thinking, with a top 5 finish in the EPL european football  and all the money that Everton can offer him, he'd be mad to come.

But u just said that "Coyle would be the ideal choice"  ??? Anyways I agree that Moyes would be next to impossible to recruit, after him I'd go Jol then Curbishley...

Ok badly put, what I meant was that Coyle would be the ideal choice from the "celtic minded" end of things. Wouldn't have thought that Jol would come and don't know too much about Curbishley?  :-\
We'll probably end up with someone no-ones ever heard of, or else Mowbrey or McGhee!!!
Whats the chances of attracting a "big" name manager?
Tbc....

Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Burnley one up with about 6 mins plus injurytime left!
Tbc....

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 25, 2009, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 25, 2009, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 25, 2009, 03:12:01 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 25, 2009, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: aroundincircles on May 25, 2009, 02:17:53 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 25, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
Quote from: aroundincircles on May 25, 2009, 01:37:11 PM
Is Strachan going for sure? Was talking to some one during the week who is close to john hartson and he said Strachan was quitting no matter what the outcome was yesterday. When will he go if he does? new manager needs to be installed asap to give him a chance to make some changes

Heard on the radio earlier on today that Celtic Park will be issuing a statement later on this week.

Who ever next manager is some passion needs to be restored somehow. For the last 6 or 7 years atmosphere inside stadium has been desperate nearly afraid to sing or chant incase some one gets offended.


The problem is that in this "PC" world people are afraid to sing as someone will most suredly take offence. I think your right in saying that passion needs to be restored, and imho to do this we need a "Celtic minded" manager, on this point Coyle would be the ideal choice (not sure about Moyes - think he may be a Rangers fan even though he played for us).

Rangers fan or not, he would be my ideal choice...

Yes he would be the pick of the list, but I think it's just wishful thinking, with a top 5 finish in the EPL european football  and all the money that Everton can offer him, he'd be mad to come.

But u just said that "Coyle would be the ideal choice"  ??? Anyways I agree that Moyes would be next to impossible to recruit, after him I'd go Jol then Curbishley...
Moyes next move will be up a level, not down.

Muzz

Really is tiring hearing some of the comments from "supporters" of Celtic on this thread.  

Were these same supporters complaining about Strachan when he got to the last 16 in the Champions League?

Fact is new manager and new ideas does not mean success.  What other manager is likely to come in and win the league in his first season?  I just hope that this time next season we arent reflecting on "being careful what we wished for".

No doubt this was the worse Rangers team in years...what does it say about Celtic???  

Anyways onwards and upwards!!!  Hail Hail!

slow corner back

What are the odds on Strachan being sunderland manager this time next week?

Croí na hÉireann

Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 25, 2009, 04:46:54 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 25, 2009, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 25, 2009, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 25, 2009, 03:12:01 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 25, 2009, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: aroundincircles on May 25, 2009, 02:17:53 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 25, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
Quote from: aroundincircles on May 25, 2009, 01:37:11 PM
Is Strachan going for sure? Was talking to some one during the week who is close to john hartson and he said Strachan was quitting no matter what the outcome was yesterday. When will he go if he does? new manager needs to be installed asap to give him a chance to make some changes

Heard on the radio earlier on today that Celtic Park will be issuing a statement later on this week.

Who ever next manager is some passion needs to be restored somehow. For the last 6 or 7 years atmosphere inside stadium has been desperate nearly afraid to sing or chant incase some one gets offended.


The problem is that in this "PC" world people are afraid to sing as someone will most suredly take offence. I think your right in saying that passion needs to be restored, and imho to do this we need a "Celtic minded" manager, on this point Coyle would be the ideal choice (not sure about Moyes - think he may be a Rangers fan even though he played for us).

Rangers fan or not, he would be my ideal choice...

Yes he would be the pick of the list, but I think it's just wishful thinking, with a top 5 finish in the EPL european football  and all the money that Everton can offer him, he'd be mad to come.

But u just said that "Coyle would be the ideal choice"  ??? Anyways I agree that Moyes would be next to impossible to recruit, after him I'd go Jol then Curbishley...
Moyes next move will be up a level, not down.

Well he's never gonna break into the "big 4" with Everton and I can't see him being offered one of them jobs either if/when they become available. So where does he go then to move up a level. Out foreign where there's not much demand for an English speaking manager & poor media coverage or up to Scotland as manager of one of the big two. He wins all around him & is linked with the "big 4" jobs if/when they become available, much the same as what happened to MON. That's moving up through my tinted glasses...

I do think we need a proven manager at the highest level, whether that be Premiership, European or International. Someone like Curbishley who constantly overachieved with Charlton would be the minimum I'd accept. Look at the depths they've plummed to since he left...
Westmeath - Home of the Christy Ring Cup...

Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Muzz, I backed Strachan for 3 and a half years, but the standard of football coming out of Paradise has been getting gradually worse and worse, the last two matches against Hibs and Hearts were rank. Whilst I generally don't like slagging off the club or it's manager, I feel this time the blame has fallen at the right feet (obviously the board have a responsibility as well).
A new manager may not offer a short term panacea, given the right man who knows, imho Strachan had done what he could at Celtic and things were starting to go stale.

Anyway as you said onwards and upwards.

Hail Hail
Tbc....

Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Burnley are promoted.
It will be interesting to see if Coyle does what he said he would do "and walk to Glasgow, if the Celtic job was ever offered to him NO MATTER WHAT OTHER JOBS WHERE ON THE TABLE".
Tbc....

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 25, 2009, 05:07:05 PM
Burnley are promoted.
It will be interesting to see if Coyle does what he said he would do "and walk to Glasgow, if the Celtic job was ever offered to him NO MATTER WHAT OTHER JOBS WHERE ON THE TABLE".

Just caught the Coyle interview after the final whistle there. He didn't seem too happy for someone who just got Burnley promoted to the premier league. Almost as if he knows he's leaving. Maybe I'm reading too much into it though.

Certainly are shades of MON about him though.

aroundincircles

Will the new manager get any sort of money to spend

Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Quote from: aroundincircles on May 25, 2009, 05:21:23 PM
Will the new manager get any sort of money to spend

Possibily if they off load Artur and Brown, Naka and Bobos gone so theres money there to pay wages.
Tbc....

aroundincircles

What players worth there salt could celtic get.

thechampishere

I'm of the belief that even if Celtic had won the Title yesterday, Strachan being Strachan would have walked away anyway. He knew maybe 2 years into the job that the bulk of Celtic fans couldn't stand him, maybe not so much his style of play but his whole attitude and apparent lack of respect for the fans with his wit and sarcasm, esp post match, almost trying to fob fans off by continually saying he couldn't ask any more of his team. I mean the whole leaving McGeady out of the game at Ibrox was bad enough but the post match interview after the hibs game was unreal. He actually stood there and said, he thought we played some fantastic stuff and all that was lacking was scoring a goal??? Hello is that not the name of the game, first and foremost, irrespective of the performance, cos I know I'd take goals over a shit performance all day long, esp if it was the difference between winning and losing the league, which in the end cost us this season. Strachan isn't totally to blame though, some of the players in that team really aint up to the task, ie, big mouth Samaras, JVOH, Crosas, just to name a few! Would Barca have sold Marc Crosas if he had anythin about him, NOT A CHANCE!!!

WGS may have led the side to 3 in a row, but when you look at it closely, it wasn't that tough a task! First title was won mainly due to the fact that Hearts fell apart having led the chase for nigh on half the season, Rangers were shite under Le Guen that season and didn't get close and were some 18 points behind Celtic and finished 3rd!!! Second of the three was won in early april with Naka's free kick against Kilmarnock. Once again, Rangers were pure shite that season too, Smith replaced Le Guen mid season and the title was pretty much in the bag by the time he'd taken over, and Rangers finished up 12 points behind us! Last season was a total fluke that Celtic won the title, had Rangers not been competing on four different fronts, the league would have been theirs after they won the 2nd old firm game in March. Celtic fell 10 points behind after losing to 1-0 at home to Motherwell in early April. Granted we did beat Rangers twice in 10 days but any club having the end of season schedule that Rangers had would have run out of gas, so yes we did win 7 straight games to win the title on the last game of the season but in all honestly, Rangers threw the title away due to their fatigue factor, which cannot be ignored, even if it was nice to see!!!

This season. we recovered from the 4-2 loss to Rangers in August and ended up 7 clear after skippy's wonder goal at Ibrox. YES 7 POINTS CLEAR GOING INTO THE NEW YEAR!!! It was strange that the only addition to the squad in January was Willo Flood, who then played f**k all in the final 4 months of the campaign. However, the word from down Govan way was that a certain Mr Boyd would need to be sold to balance their books, and me prob like alot of celtic fans thought it was only a matter of time before we won 4 in a row! The slide started up at Pittodrie back in mid January, and for me thats when the alarm bells started ringing. Losing 4-2 in the manner we did was a big cause for concern, yet Strachan seemed to thing that everything fell right for Aberdeen that day, WRONG - His constant use of the zonal marking system undid us that day, all well and good playing the zonal system if you have the defenders that can play it properly, BUT WE DON'T!!! Our home form this season was pretty sound after January, but our away form was our undoing time and time again! 0-0 away at Caley Thistle, 1-1 at Motherwell having been in front, 2-2 at Dundee Utd having been leading, and 1-1 at Hearts after going in front after 30 seconds. That was 8 points thrown away, and then the failure to score at Ibox, and more importantly Easter road after Rangers slipped up there 4 days before was the real killer, so in my honest opinion, Celtic had the league won in December after the win at Ibrox and had we signed a couple of players in January, esp Steven Fletcher then I do believe we would have won the league, prob even before the split. But our lack of transfer dealings coupled with our awful away form this year, gave Rangers the momentum they needed and fair play to them, they went to Tannadice yesterday and won easy against a Dundee Utd side who have been more than a match for the Old Firm this season. Samaras' comments about Rangers made him look pretty stupid when he was subbed at half time yesterday

In the final analysis, Celtic were guilty of alot of things this season, from the board not wanting to spend in January, to Strachan's sometimes confusing tactics and seeming lack of know how when it came to the crunch and more importantly our poor away form after that win at Ibrox. Winning 2 out of 8 away games after that was costly in the end. So Strachan has gone, can't say i'm disappointed cos I'm not, I just hope that the board do their best to get the right man in and make sure he is allowed to strengthen the squad to get the Title back next season, because right now the momentum is with Rangers and if Celtic don't want a period of Rangers domination to begin again, they had better get their act together. My choice for new manager would be David Moyes, but I reckon a more realistic target would be either Craig Levein or Mark McGhee

ROLL ON NEXT SEASON AND KEEP THE FAITH, C'MON THE BHOYS!!!

Minder

Trying to think of a manager that brought the success that Strachan did and being as villified by his own fans, cant think of another. . . . Would the fact that he is a prod have anything to do with it?
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

the colonel

minder, being a prod has nothing to do with it for me, its the fact the football is minging. why should people who spend so much money to go to games, be happy to watch the absolutely minging football that celtic have played under strachan
the difference between success and failure is energy