Tyrone v Kildare AIQF official thread!

[Donnellys Hollow]

Dermot has just been out of this world all year. For a guy who has been cursed with both injuries and illness his resilience has been incredible.

It's often said that Dermot Earley snr is one of the greatest players never to win an All-Ireland and I don't think it's overstating it to say that Dermot jnr is approaching that level. Even though he's been around for years he's only 31/32. Could still have a few years left in that Rolls Royce engine - maybe the elusive Earley celtic cross might come yet!

[sandwiches_in_the_boot]

Dermot has just been out of this world all year. For a guy who has been cursed with both injuries and illness his resilience has been incredible.

It's often said that Dermot Earley snr is one of the greatest players never to win an All-Ireland and I don't think it's overstating it to say that Dermot jnr is approaching that level. Even though he's been around for years he's only 31/32. Could still have a few years left in that Rolls Royce engine - maybe the elusive Earley celtic cross might come yet!

I think his engine and desire should be commended at his age, and his fitness. But (I'll wait for the lashback) I feel there's a cynical side to him that Mc Geeney has brought out. I think he should have been yellow carded much earlier. I think he was kept quiet enough today. He maybe only caught 1/2 clean balls but went in more to knock the ball down, which worked 1st half but not in 2nd. Plus he was kept back a lot today, which may have lessened his impact.

[Bomber2312]

sorry for them typo's lads. obviously i meant gormley.

what hat are u referring to?

didnt mean to make a big point of mcmenimen but it was and is always great to see the game move on when something like that happens and the pretender just has to get up

what i meant about dooher and he is one of my favourites is that i think he's feeling the pace abit....not sayin hes not a super footballer, bit like dara in kerry that the legs may be tiring abit. miskella will be a great contest. be happy to eat my words on that but i feel that he may be commin to the end is all

[never kickt a ball]

Oh, and Sean Cavanagh for 6 2" does go down very easily indeed .

Know exactly what you mean

[Bomber2312]

re white seen him in all ireland under 21 final and was ver impressed  but alwaya got the feeling he was gonna do something mental. he has all the attributes but he buys into the needless stuff way too easily.

[slievegullion]

Can I just point out that there is a world of difference between booing a klicker before he takes a free and cheering as a free kick goes wide.

It can be incredibly tense following your team in a game like that and when a ball goes wide which you had expected was going to go over, it is sheer elation that your team has somehow managed to not concede a further point and so you let out a cheer, it's not jeering of the opposition players.

Disappointed Kildare are out, there's no team left in the competition now that I would actually like to see lift Sam.

[Carmen Stateside]

Tough hard game today which is just what Tyrone needed.  The first fifteen minutes of the second half was as good a football that has been played in a while.  People giving out about Gormley is a joke, smiling at someone deserves this slating?
For me motm should have been between Primrose ( this is what one of the papers here in New York called him a few years ago when he played out here )
                                                   and  Dooher, the possession this man won in the second half was unreal and when it was needed!
                                                   and Gormley 
Fair play to Mc Geeney and Kildare, they had their tactics spot on today and it was no surprise to see Mc Geeney so gutted at the end for he knew they had done enough to win it.  Early and Doyle imo were unreal!
By the way no one has mentioned Stephen O Neills point in the first half from the left corner, pure class!

[ONeill]

This was the perfect preparation for Cork. Because of the level Tyrone had been playing at all Summer, Kildare's tenacity knocked Tyrone back for a while. However, when they needed to move through the gears they did, and in style. Those first 15 mins of the second half were majestic. Mugsy played his best football since 2005. Some crucial scores. O'Neill scored 0-7 despite having 2-3 men hanging out of him.

Very impressed with Kildare, especially after they went behind by 2. They didn't fold and only for a couple of wides late on we'd be looking at a replay. I thought Earley has hit and miss today and didn't like Hughes' presence! Still slightly concerned with Jordan since the Antrim game but have a feeling this side is peaking perfectly and can envisage a more complete performance next time.

Looks like Tommy, Mugsy and O'Neill are all best when close to goal but Mickey'll never do that. Tommy suffered today.

Ricey won a fantastic ball in midfield late on and as for McGuigan's catch....memories of '84.

[Zapatista]

Presume you're talking about Gormley rather than Ciarán Gourley in the rest of your post. Gourley didn't even come on for Tyrone. Gormley plays the game on the edge and riles up the opposition players and supporters no end. I thought Roli Sweeney showed incredible restraint not to deck him, but to be honest we'd all love Gormley if he was one of our own. When Justin McMahon gallopped up the field for an insurance point, Brian Flanagan had the perfect opportunity to cut him off as he went for the return pass but he didn't. I've no doubt if it was the other way round and Mick Foley was running past Gormley he'd have been hauled down. Cynical - without doubt, but the point wouldn't have been conceded.

I'd say Pearse O'Neill might fancy his chances of putting manners on him!

Are you seriously calling Tyrone cynical for something that didn't happen? Fcuk me  

[pintsofguinness]

Will post more When I'm next on computer. Superb second half from Tyrone, showing they did have an extra gear after all. Fair play to Kildare, really took the game to us. Especially enjoyed watching Doyle and Early. My MoTM was Gormley.

Got to say, laughable some of the anti-Tyrone stuff in here tonight.... from the usual quarters. Get over yourselves!

No dont worry, weve sorted it out, no one is allowed to say ANYTHING bad about tryone or any tyrone player because they're the best in the whole wide world, ever.      

Get over YOURSELVES!

[Archie Mitchell]

Talking shit as usual POG.

If you think that was Tyrone being cynical, you obvioulsy haven't seen alot of Tyrone games or you're just anti-Tyrone. I'd be the first to admit that Tyrone push it to the limit at times and do anything to win a match, but there wasn't much evidence to that yesterday compared to games in the past. And the fact that you singled out Conor Gormley for smiling at an opponent after he was fouled by him speaks volumes for your dislike of Tyrone.

[loughshore lad]

Some of the comments about Tyrone cynacism are laughable and very blinkered.  Anyone at the game will have clearly seen that Kildare are as well drilled to play as competitively, cutely and on the edge as anyone.  They reminded me of armagh in their pomp, McGeeney and Grimleys fingerprints are all over Kildare and fair play to them as they are a serious outfit.

Also the comments on Gormely are way over the top.  Every team in the country would love him on their side he is an absolutely brilliant player.  He has lost a yard of pace but his reading of the game, footballing ability and physical presence more than compensate.  

[pintsofguinness]

Talking shit as usual POG.

If you think that was Tyrone being cynical, you obvioulsy haven't seen alot of Tyrone games or you're just anti-Tyrone. I'd be the first to admit that Tyrone push it to the limit at times and do anything to win a match, but there wasn't much evidence to that yesterday compared to games in the past. And the fact that you singled out Conor Gormley for smiling at an opponent after he was fouled by him speaks volumes for your dislike of Tyrone.

I didnt say tyrone were being cynical. Maybe you should read the posts on the thread before playing the man (the wrong man)?        Several people have said they were cynical and you come in and play me who didnt even say it 

Gormley wasnt smiling at his opponent, he was up in his face trying to goad him, after a free had been won (twice) - bit different than exchanging pleasantries with a smile.  As I said above, it's not nice to see but hardly a big deal. 

This is unbelievable, some tyrone supporters cannot accept any criticism of their team, cant even accept a discussion on the referees performance, it's just bizarre.  Anyone who says anything negative must be "anti tyrone", and then you've got ziggy telling people to get over themselves!! The irony.

anyway, no point in letting the thread get bogged down, get over yourselves.   

[Donnellys Hollow]

Presume you're talking about Gormley rather than Ciarán Gourley in the rest of your post. Gourley didn't even come on for Tyrone. Gormley plays the game on the edge and riles up the opposition players and supporters no end. I thought Roli Sweeney showed incredible restraint not to deck him, but to be honest we'd all love Gormley if he was one of our own. When Justin McMahon gallopped up the field for an insurance point, Brian Flanagan had the perfect opportunity to cut him off as he went for the return pass but he didn't. I've no doubt if it was the other way round and Mick Foley was running past Gormley he'd have been hauled down. Cynical - without doubt, but the point wouldn't have been conceded.

I'd say Pearse O'Neill might fancy his chances of putting manners on him!

Are you seriously calling Tyrone cynical for something that didn't happen? Fcuk me  

No, I was just pointing out that an element of cynicism is inherent in all the better teams of the modern era. This cynicism or gamesmanship, whatever you want to call it, is something Kildare will probably have to develop as they gain more experience. I'm not under the impression that Kildare are whiter than white (excuse the pun!) but I thought we were very naive at times yesterday. If you're under the impression that Gormley is whiter than white though you're only deluding yourself. Maybe you missed him take down James Kavanagh during the second half when there was the sniff of a goal chance?

On reflection, Tyrone fully deserved their win. While we played well in the first half, four points in 35 minutes of championship football simply isn't good enough. We'd been putting up an average of eighteen and nineteen points over the whole of the league and championship and it is testament to Tyrone that they held us to twelve scores yesterday. Any Kildare fans whingeing about the ref should quieten down because there will be another day for this team and maybe that day we might be in receipt of a few 50/50 calls.

Well done to Tyrone and good luck for the rest of the season.

[Hardy]

Through the chair - I'd like to propose that we change the subject. I'd like to add an amendment that we ban the use of the words "cynical" and "cynicism". Just for  awhile, like, FFS.

Here's a whole lot of better words to play with - skill, courage, pace, resilience, resolution, commitment, power, determination.