Mayo v Roscommon - Connacht SFC Semi-Final, June 20, Venue TBC

[mannix]

saturday or sunday?

[SLIGONIAN]

From the lightnevergoes out or something like that mayo website,

THE day I get sick of Mayo beating Roscommon is the day I lose my lust for life. You cannot beat them enough! And by the same token there's no one more insufferable to lose to either.

We probably should hate Galway more than we hate the Rossies but there's an acknowledgement of Galway's pedigree and a cursory nod to their footballing principles. But Roscommon bring out a different animal in us altogether.

We are regarded as good losers (no spot prizes for the first wag to say we get enough practice) but Roscommon is the exception. We cannot abide it. Even in the FBD league, there is never a good time to lose to the Rossies.

Why is this? Its not as if Roscommon have visited despair on us all the time – we certainly have the upper hand on them. And its not as we're driven by jealousy at their success – again Galway would be the target here.

No I think the hatred we reserve for the Rossies is for one very simple reason – their supporters. At the risk of being racist I don't know of any more obnoxious or ignorant group of GAA people in the country than Rossie supporters! I know not of any other county whose supporters so personally abuse opposition players.

I don't know any other county supporters who so vigoursly fling insults at opposition supporters. Not witty remarks mind, but highly personal and rude stuff.

I've seen it time and time again at Mayo Roscommon matches for it not to be a few isolated incidents. But I recall especially one incident that sums up a lot of it. It was at the infamous (for Mayo) 2001 Connacht final when Eddie Lohan scored that late, late goal after David Nestor looked to have stolen success for us with a goal a minute before.

Our group had been jubilant when that Nestor goal went in. Not gloating, just cheering. Then Lohan hit the killer goal and a family of a wife and husband and a son and daughter, neither of whom were even teenagers, turned around and used what should have been their own time for celebration to hurl insults at us.

'Take that ye c****' and 'shove that up your h***' and 'go home to f*** now ye boggers with yer tails between yer legs'. We were stupified.

And, let's be fair, its not every Rossie who acts like this. And every county has a few clowns or yahoos who engage in this behaviour. But, per capita, Roscommon certainly have more of this ilk of 'supporter' than anywhere else. Customers, as Johnny Maughan would call them.

Certaily publicans in Castlebar this weekend will welcome the custom that Saturday's game will bring but they'd much rather to be hosting Galway supporters than Rossies because the Rossies have been known to create more trouble than any other supporters.

And then there's  Ballaghaderreen, which the Rossie supporters spend all day and night moaning about. A town historically in Mayo and moved into Roscommon for reasons of rates cuts and the people of Ballaghaderreen's insistance on remaining in Mayo GAA since is something the Rossies cannot understand. I wouldn't blame the Ballaghs for waiting in Mayo GAA either!

I'm sure to the untrained eye this looks like a crazy, paranoid rant. But it is not something only I feel. Ask any Mayo supporter of their thoughts on Rossies and most will concur with me.

All that being said life would be dull without them. Intense rivalry is a great part of sport. The Rossies would, grudingly, say the same about us. I wonder why they hate us. And I wonder is it just for us that such scorn is reserved? Come what may there's no doubting that Mayo Roscommon clashes evoke the best and worst of both counties.

All of which makes defeat on Saturday unthinkable. Unfortunately though, impossible it is not.

We plan to disect most angles possible about Saturday during the week. We just said we'd start with the most stand-out – both counties sheer hatred of each other!



Thats a disgraceful article, considering the abuse ive seen mayofans give mort over the yrs (yer best forward) , and ive been on the receiving end myself and remember mcdonald family stopped going to games becuase of the abuse he got. there some joke if they cant see it themselves. They some cheek going on ballaghdereen when you see whats going in bellaghy which was never in mayo and still isnt but ive accepted whats happened there because i know it will stop soon.

Hopefully this will get back to FOD and the players. Stupid article, and will definitly rile Roscommon. Let the battle commence .

[Lar Naparka]

I think the generous inclusion of Mcgarrity shows i have no bias

As does the fact I haven't mentioned James

While you are at it, why didn't you include David Heaney?
Remember the game in Salthill '07?
At a crucial stage in the second half, he had a shot at goal blocked down  and gave the ball away.
He was inside the 21 at the time!

[kevmy]

I think we have much more nailed on starters this year than we had last year. Some fellas are making stuff up they'd like to see themselves but has no basis in fact - Parsons at CF for example when has he ever played there for Mayo at senior level - never as far as I can recall. Every time he came on in the league Harte moved to the half forwards and he went to midfield. I don't think a leopard like Johnno is going to change his spots like that come Championship.

For me nailed down are Nos. 1,2,3,6,8,9,10,11,12,13,14.

Clarke is first choice goalie and O'Malley is back up with Clarke out it's O'Malley's jersey.
LO'M and Cafferkey played pretty much all the league and won't be moved. Howley is in possession of the No. 6 especially since Cunniffe his only challenger is out injured. McGarrity and Parsons will play midfield. Dillon, Trev and Harte will play in the half forward line assuming they are fit (Trev and Harte may swap but both will play). CMort will play - he's back from injury and is pretty much our top scorer for the last 5 years it would be crazy not to start him at least. O'Sé is our FF.

That leaves the team like this. With those already mentioned I'd have

                O'Malley

O'Malley     Cafferkey   McLaughlin

Gardiner      Howley      Higgins

        McGarrity      Parsons

Dillon        Trevor      Harte

C Mort       O'Sé      A Moran


It's tough on a couple of players Vaughan, B Moran, Austie and Ronaldson in particular who all showed well in the league. I'm firmly of the opinion that Heaney and Nallen should be used as rather than starters. Austie is probably a better corner forward than full forward but I don't think you can trust him. Higgins probably got better challenges from the hurling game than the useless challenge games we've been playing over the last while and he's been our best player over the last 2 yrs. If he doesn't start this he prob won't start against Galway and we'll need him then.

[muppet]

Kenneth O'Malley
Liam O'Malley David heaney ,James nallen
Peadar Gardiner Trevor Howley  K higgins
Ronan McGarrity Tom Parsons
andy moran Aidan O'Shea ,Aidan Kilcoyne
CMort  Barry MOran, AOM

Spot on ros but throw in Dermot Geraghty in place of Liam O'Malley and I reckon that's the team.

What have you heard?

Cafferkey will be at the edge of the square and he will have his hands full with Kilbride. Can't see Nallen stating but we'll probably see him at some stage.

[FL/MAYO]

From the lightnevergoes out or something like that mayo website,

THE day I get sick of Mayo beating Roscommon is the day I lose my lust for life. You cannot beat them enough! And by the same token there's no one more insufferable to lose to either.

We probably should hate Galway more than we hate the Rossies but there's an acknowledgement of Galway's pedigree and a cursory nod to their footballing principles. But Roscommon bring out a different animal in us altogether.

We are regarded as good losers (no spot prizes for the first wag to say we get enough practice) but Roscommon is the exception. We cannot abide it. Even in the FBD league, there is never a good time to lose to the Rossies.

Why is this? Its not as if Roscommon have visited despair on us all the time – we certainly have the upper hand on them. And its not as we're driven by jealousy at their success – again Galway would be the target here.

No I think the hatred we reserve for the Rossies is for one very simple reason – their supporters. At the risk of being racist I don't know of any more obnoxious or ignorant group of GAA people in the country than Rossie supporters! I know not of any other county whose supporters so personally abuse opposition players.

I don't know any other county supporters who so vigoursly fling insults at opposition supporters. Not witty remarks mind, but highly personal and rude stuff.

I've seen it time and time again at Mayo Roscommon matches for it not to be a few isolated incidents. But I recall especially one incident that sums up a lot of it. It was at the infamous (for Mayo) 2001 Connacht final when Eddie Lohan scored that late, late goal after David Nestor looked to have stolen success for us with a goal a minute before.

Our group had been jubilant when that Nestor goal went in. Not gloating, just cheering. Then Lohan hit the killer goal and a family of a wife and husband and a son and daughter, neither of whom were even teenagers, turned around and used what should have been their own time for celebration to hurl insults at us.

'Take that ye c****' and 'shove that up your h***' and 'go home to f*** now ye boggers with yer tails between yer legs'. We were stupified.

And, let's be fair, its not every Rossie who acts like this. And every county has a few clowns or yahoos who engage in this behaviour. But, per capita, Roscommon certainly have more of this ilk of 'supporter' than anywhere else. Customers, as Johnny Maughan would call them.

Certaily publicans in Castlebar this weekend will welcome the custom that Saturday's game will bring but they'd much rather to be hosting Galway supporters than Rossies because the Rossies have been known to create more trouble than any other supporters.

And then there's  Ballaghaderreen, which the Rossie supporters spend all day and night moaning about. A town historically in Mayo and moved into Roscommon for reasons of rates cuts and the people of Ballaghaderreen's insistance on remaining in Mayo GAA since is something the Rossies cannot understand. I wouldn't blame the Ballaghs for waiting in Mayo GAA either!

I'm sure to the untrained eye this looks like a crazy, paranoid rant. But it is not something only I feel. Ask any Mayo supporter of their thoughts on Rossies and most will concur with me.

All that being said life would be dull without them. Intense rivalry is a great part of sport. The Rossies would, grudingly, say the same about us. I wonder why they hate us. And I wonder is it just for us that such scorn is reserved? Come what may there's no doubting that Mayo Roscommon clashes evoke the best and worst of both counties.

All of which makes defeat on Saturday unthinkable. Unfortunately though, impossible it is not.

We plan to disect most angles possible about Saturday during the week. We just said we'd start with the most stand-out – both counties sheer hatred of each other!



Thats a disgraceful article, considering the abuse ive seen mayofans give mort over the yrs (yer best forward) , and ive been on the receiving end myself and remember mcdonald family stopped going to games becuase of the abuse he got. there some joke if they cant see it themselves. They some cheek going on ballaghdereen when you see whats going in bellaghy which was never in mayo and still isnt but ive accepted whats happened there because i know it will stop soon.


Hopefully this will get back to FOD and the players. Stupid article, and will definitly rile Roscommon. Let the battle commence .

I would take that type of abuse from a Rossie and his family any day, its better than having some smug Kerry supporter being patronising to you 10 minutes into an All Ireland,  its the Kerry supporters that try me over the edge.

[Tubberman]

A sneak preview of the new stand and press box in McHale park for those who haven't been in Castlebar lately. Photos courtesy of Jack Loftus on castlebar.ie http://www.castlebar.ie/JLoftus/McHale_Park_Stand_Update.shtml

[SLIGONIAN]

Looks like alot of work still to do , those pics are from 11/06/09, I have a few criticisms if i were from mayo but since im not i wont dislose them, no point.

[Turlough O Carolan]

Looks like they just got to finish painting the steps primrose.

[GalwayBayBoy]

Looks like they just got to finish painting the steps primrose.

They want to have the Roscommon colours up by the weekend obviously.

[Tubberman]

Quote from: Turlough O Carolan on Today at 03:46:03 PM
Looks like they just got to finish painting the steps primrose.


They want to have the Roscommon colours up by the weekend obviously.

We're nothing if not good hosts 
That could be taking it slighty too far though...

[StoneWall]

Going on those photos it's most unimpressive! The monstrosity on the MacHale Rd side looks like what the Brits used to have over Crossmaglens ground  . TV As for the blue seats  what were they thinking...unless they represent the Fine Gael colours!

[neilthemac]

is it a cantilever roof? or are those pillars supporting the roof?

[Turlough O Carolan]

Pillars. Probably an architectural nod to the old stand that stood there.

[Tubberman]

No, it's not a cantilever roof. The poles are permanent  
They seem to be fairly thin in comparison to the big girders that were in the old stand. Apparently it would have cost another million for a cantilever roof...
And I wouldn't want to be sitting in the back corner of the stand where your view seems to be blocked by the side of the stand.