The Many Faces of US Politics...

Gabriel_Hurl · September 30, 2020, 01:00:47 AM

Eamonnca1 · September 30, 2020, 01:13:05 AM

Captain Obvious · September 30, 2020, 01:36:10 AM

A not so bold prediction. Trump to be awful in this upcoming debate yet his followers will say he was great.

screenexile · September 30, 2020, 03:02:29 AM

It's 2 old dudes shouting at each other nobody is winning this shitshow which means Biden is!!!

omochain · September 30, 2020, 03:05:25 AM

Just watching the debate. I was trying to figure out how to figure out when Trump was lying and my smart wife told me...that's simple. Every time his lips are moving he's lying.

Captain Obvious · September 30, 2020, 03:13:52 AM

Trump keeps interrupting. Biden with the best line. You wouldn't know a suburb unless you took a wrong turn.

omochain · September 30, 2020, 03:33:48 AM

Quote from: screenexile on September 30, 2020, 03:02:29 AM
It's 2 old dudes shouting at each other nobody is winning this shitshow which means Biden is!!!

Think one old man was doing most of the shouting.... As always, false equivalence even from a benevolent viewpoint does not help democracy.

sid waddell · September 30, 2020, 03:34:33 AM

Trump literally told white supremacists to "stand by"

"Stand by" means stand ready to attack

Trump has been every bit as execrable as I expected

You'd literally get more sense out of a four year old child

Evil in action

omochain · September 30, 2020, 03:52:18 AM

Quote from: sid waddell on September 30, 2020, 03:34:33 AM
Trump literally told white supremacists to "stand by"

"Stand by" means stand ready to attack

Trump has been every bit as execrable as I expected

You'd literally get more sense out of a four year old child

Evil in action

Perhaps in the words of Barney Frank... you might substitute "the leg of a table or chair" for the child.

sid waddell · September 30, 2020, 03:56:06 AM

Quote from: omochain on September 30, 2020, 03:52:18 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on September 30, 2020, 03:34:33 AM
Trump literally told white supremacists to "stand by"

"Stand by" means stand ready to attack

Trump has been every bit as execrable as I expected

You'd literally get more sense out of a four year old child

Evil in action

Perhaps in the words of Barney Frank... you might substitute "the leg of a table or chair" for the child.

The proverbial inanimate carbon rod looks like FDR and Lincoln put together compared to Trump

omochain · September 30, 2020, 05:00:43 AM

Democracy is on a knife edge. Unhinged Trump.. Media trying to be fair and it ain't working.

RedHand88 · September 30, 2020, 07:54:52 AM

Biden refusing to condemn Antifa.
Trump refusing to condemn proud boys.

How did America get to this point?

J70 · September 30, 2020, 08:05:19 AM

I didn't watch. Just couldn't put myself through that orange lowlife's sordid freakshow. Sounds like it was a wise decision.

MoChara · September 30, 2020, 08:27:40 AM

Quote from: RedHand88 on September 30, 2020, 07:54:52 AM
Biden refusing to condemn Antifa.
Trump refusing to condemn proud boys.

How did America get to this point?

I don't think AntiFa have any love for Biden, but proud boys etc do love their trump.

Hound · September 30, 2020, 09:43:58 AM

Biden started very slowly, Trump started reasonably well, got in a couple of witty digs. But then couldn't stop himself being a complete ignorant buffoon for the rest of the debate. Appealing to the base of his base I guess. Trump is good at deflecting questions so he only talks about and around the sound bytes he wants to talk about. Very little depth.

Biden is clearly superior about discussing policy, albeit when he starts talking about specific numbers, he often had to correct himself. But after the slow start he performed reasonably competently. He did lose the rag twice 'shut up' and 'clown', which was twice too many, but a lot better than many people would have done in the face of the constant interruptions and barbs, and better than being Sleepy Joe.