British Isles, Western European Isles, North Atlantic Isles

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Its not that difficult to know what Britain/UK/British isles etc actually consist of
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It's quite simple
1. Britain is England, Scotland & Wales
2. The United Kingdom is England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland.
3. The British Isles don't exist.
4. England is England not Britain.
5. England is not the Sceptred isle Isle, Britain is. Ireland is the Emerald Isle.
6. Ireland is both (A) The Island of Ireland & (B) The Independent state officially called Eire or Ireland (The Republic of Ireland is a soccer team).
7. Northern Ireland consists of 6 Irish counties in Ulster on the Island of Ireland under British administration.
8. Ulster is a province on the Island of Ireland consisting of 9 Irish counties, 6 in the UK, 3 in Eire.
9. Both the UK & Ireland are in the European Union.
10. Citizens of Ireland & Subjects/Citizens of the UK are Europeans.
11. The mainland is Continental Europe not Britain, its a friggen Island too.

Most British people struggle to understand most of these.

How hard is the above to understand?

[Puckoon]

Americans with an ounce of wit,

Is that a large number?

Personally I think they should introduce grammes of wit.

I enjoy the musings of eejits like you, if that is your true belief.

[muppet]

Of all the terminlogy, this is the one that grates me the most.

The next time you say America instead of the US or the States give yourself a bollocking.

It is quite correct to say America in reference to visiting any country in North or South America.

Personally I don't like the term US or the states, The USA is not the only country made up of united states.

As for including Ireland in the British isles - i've no real problem with that.

References to Ulster - meaning the 6 counties really annoys me
And references to Nirthern Ireland part of Britain also really annoys me!

Its not that difficult to know what Britain/UK/British isles etc actually consist of

It is not correct to refer to the United States of America as simply America.

The United States of America or USA is its official name so it is correct to refer to it in those terms.

If you are unhappy with the use of the term US instead of USA then fair enough but I think life is too short.

[Lawrence of Knockbride]

Of all the terminlogy, this is the one that grates me the most.

The next time you say America instead of the US or the States give yourself a bollocking.

It is quite correct to say America in reference to visiting any country in North or South America.

Personally I don't like the term US or the states, The USA is not the only country made up of united states.

As for including Ireland in the British isles - i've no real problem with that.

References to Ulster - meaning the 6 counties really annoys me
And references to Nirthern Ireland part of Britain also really annoys me!

Its not that difficult to know what Britain/UK/British isles etc actually consist of

Why does one annoy you and not the other Lazer? The term British Isles suggest that the islands in question belong to Britain which they don't.

[Maguire01]

Its not that difficult to know what Britain/UK/British isles etc actually consist of


It's quite simple
1. Britain is England, Scotland & Wales
2. The United Kingdom is England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland.
3. The British Isles don't exist.
4. England is England not Britain.
5. England is not the Sceptred isle Isle, Britain is. Ireland is the Emerald Isle.
6. Ireland is both (A) The Island of Ireland & (B) The Independent state officially called Eire or Ireland (The Republic of Ireland is a soccer team).
7. Northern Ireland consists of 6 Irish counties in Ulster on the Island of Ireland under British administration.
8. Ulster is a province on the Island of Ireland consisting of 9 Irish counties, 6 in the UK, 3 in Eire.
9. Both the UK & Ireland are in the European Union.
10. Citizens of Ireland & Subjects/Citizens of the UK are Europeans.
11. The mainland is Continental Europe not Britain, its a friggen Island too.

Most British people struggle to understand most of these.

How hard is the above to understand?

The mainland is usually the continental part of a region, as opposed to the islands nearby, or, if the region is entirely insular, the largest of the several islands comprising the region.

Whilst it's an annoying term when used in relation to NI & GB, the use of 'mainland' in relation to Britain is not actually incorrect.

[mylestheslasher]

Maybe I am contrary but someone refers to Ireland as part of the british isles or refers to going back to the mainland I will immediately correct them. I've done this to a number of customers/suppliers of companies I work for and in 99% of cases they do mean no harm. But still I can't let it go. Its like saying Monaghan is somehow apart of Cavan, make me feel dirty.

[pk205]

Yes Britain & Ireland were playing golf together and they were called Britain & Ireland. When Britain & Ireland play rugby together they're called the British & Irish Lions. I hate the term British Isles when it refers to Britain and Ireland because Ireland is not a British Isle-it's fairly simple. I'd point it out to anyone that is ignorant to the fact.
And the Ulster thing also pisses me off. In fact, people from certain areas of Ireland are actually confused to what province Cavan is in. "Yeah, but you're from Leinster though aren't you" I've been asked more than once.

I once heard Chris McGimpsey being interviewed on RTE - when the 'Peace Process' was newsworthy. He said that his forefathers "came from the Leinster area - County Cavan"!!!

Does that mean we will only have right teams in the draw for the Ulster Championship next year?

[Olaf]

Its not that difficult to know what Britain/UK/British isles etc actually consist of

It's quite simple
1. Britain is England, Scotland & Wales
2. The United Kingdom is England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland.
3. The British Isles don't exist.
4. England is England not Britain.
5. England is not the Sceptred isle Isle, Britain is. Ireland is the Emerald Isle.
6. Ireland is both (A) The Island of Ireland & (B) The Independent state officially called Eire or Ireland (The Republic of Ireland is a soccer team).
7. Northern Ireland consists of 6 Irish counties in Ulster on the Island of Ireland under British administration.
8. Ulster is a province on the Island of Ireland consisting of 9 Irish counties, 6 in the UK, 3 in Eire.
9. Both the UK & Ireland are in the European Union.
10. Citizens of Ireland & Subjects/Citizens of the UK are Europeans.
11. The mainland is Continental Europe not Britain, its a friggen Island too.

Most British people struggle to understand most of these.

How hard is the above to understand?
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Must admit 6 confuses me a bit. An island called "Ireland"  AND a state making up part of that island also calling itself  "Ireland." Someting not quite right there.

The rest are easily understood.

[thewobbler]

Two many men getting too hung up about nothing on this thread.

If you're one of the few people in this world who is genuinely politically correct, and careful not to offend anyone with remarks they might find derogatory, then you are probably a boring b*st*rd and not worth having a conversation with.

If you're not one of these people, yet you get offended by other people's decriptions of place, then you're a hypocrite.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Its not that difficult to know what Britain/UK/British isles etc actually consist of

It's quite simple
1. Britain is England, Scotland & Wales
2. The United Kingdom is England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland.
3. The British Isles don't exist.
4. England is England not Britain.
5. England is not the Sceptred isle Isle, Britain is. Ireland is the Emerald Isle.
6. Ireland is both (A) The Island of Ireland & (B) The Independent state officially called Eire or Ireland (The Republic of Ireland is a soccer team).
7. Northern Ireland consists of 6 Irish counties in Ulster on the Island of Ireland under British administration.
8. Ulster is a province on the Island of Ireland consisting of 9 Irish counties, 6 in the UK, 3 in Eire.
9. Both the UK & Ireland are in the European Union.
10. Citizens of Ireland & Subjects/Citizens of the UK are Europeans.
11. The mainland is Continental Europe not Britain, its a friggen Island too.

Most British people struggle to understand most of these.

How hard is the above to understand?

Must admit 6 confuses me a bit. An island called "Ireland"  AND a state making up part of that island also calling itself  "Ireland." Someting not quite right there.

The rest are easily understood.
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The official name of the Independent state of Ireland is Ireland or Eire. The Republic of Ireland is a non-existent country, I really hate the term Republic of Ireland & I don't use it other than the Irish soccer team. When talking to foreigners when they ask me if I am from the North or South, I first reply the West, then if they continue to look confused, I say that I'm from the Independent State, the Republic.

I refer to the 32 counties as the Island of Ireland & the Independent Republic as Ireland.

[Roger]

Two many men getting too hung up about nothing on this thread.

If you're one of the few people in this world who is genuinely politically correct, and careful not to offend anyone with remarks they might find derogatory, then you are probably a boring b*st*rd and not worth having a conversation with.

If you're not one of these people, yet you get offended by other people's decriptions of place, then you're a hypocrite.

Good post. 

[Aerlik]

Two many men getting too hung up about nothing on this thread.

If you're one of the few people in this world who is genuinely politically correct, and careful not to offend anyone with remarks they might find derogatory, then you are probably a boring b*st*rd and not worth having a conversation with.

If you're not one of these people, yet you get offended by other people's decriptions of place, then you're a hypocrite.

Which two?   

[Lazer]

Of all the terminlogy, this is the one that grates me the most.

The next time you say America instead of the US or the States give yourself a bollocking.

It is quite correct to say America in reference to visiting any country in North or South America.

Personally I don't like the term US or the states, The USA is not the only country made up of united states.

As for including Ireland in the British isles - i've no real problem with that.

References to Ulster - meaning the 6 counties really annoys me
And references to Nirthern Ireland part of Britain also really annoys me!

Its not that difficult to know what Britain/UK/British isles etc actually consist of

Why does one annoy you and not the other Lazer? The term British Isles suggest that the islands in question belong to Britain which they don't.

The use of teh term Britain annoys me simply because N.Ireland isn't actually in Britain, whereas although we may not like the term Ireland is geographically part of the British Isles