Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[marty34]

There is, as far as I'm aware, no evidence of this gang rape/mass rape thing. Its also pretty much accepted that Israel shot up a large amount of their own people. If they gave a damn about hostages they would gave negotiated their release, instead they carpet bombed civilian areas. You need to think of Israel as Nazis to understand the evil you are dealing with here.

I have no doubt that Israel wilfully murder and starve Palestinians - it's clear from their actions.

Though hasn't the ICC also accepted that Hamas fighters used sexual violence? I'd imagine they must have seen evidence before stating such.

Well there is that one clip of the girl getting dragged out of the Jeep by the hair-can't imagine what horrors she suffered

Has that story been debunked recently? Is that the one with the girl with blood of her trousers?

Didn't the IDF recently release videos of this same girl who was kidnapped with her hands tied behind her back and they were bleeding?

[PadraicHenryPearse]

There is, as far as I'm aware, no evidence of this gang rape/mass rape thing. Its also pretty much accepted that Israel shot up a large amount of their own people. If they gave a damn about hostages they would gave negotiated their release, instead they carpet bombed civilian areas. You need to think of Israel as Nazis to understand the evil you are dealing with here.

I have no doubt that Israel wilfully murder and starve Palestinians - it's clear from their actions.

Though hasn't the ICC also accepted that Hamas fighters used sexual violence? I'd imagine they must have seen evidence before stating such.

Well there is that one clip of the girl getting dragged out of the Jeep by the hair-can't imagine what horrors she suffered

Has that story been debunked recently? Is that the one with the girl with blood of her trousers?

Didn't the IDF recently release videos of this same girl who was kidnapped with her hands tied behind her back and they were bleeding?

they (zionists and supporters) also reposted it all over social media qith mis translation of what was said in the video.

[marty34]

There is, as far as I'm aware, no evidence of this gang rape/mass rape thing. Its also pretty much accepted that Israel shot up a large amount of their own people. If they gave a damn about hostages they would gave negotiated their release, instead they carpet bombed civilian areas. You need to think of Israel as Nazis to understand the evil you are dealing with here.

I have no doubt that Israel wilfully murder and starve Palestinians - it's clear from their actions.

Though hasn't the ICC also accepted that Hamas fighters used sexual violence? I'd imagine they must have seen evidence before stating such.

Well there is that one clip of the girl getting dragged out of the Jeep by the hair-can't imagine what horrors she suffered

Has that story been debunked recently? Is that the one with the girl with blood of her trousers?

Didn't the IDF recently release videos of this same girl who was kidnapped with her hands tied behind her back and they were bleeding?

they (zionists and supporters) also reposted it all over social media qith mis translation of what was said in the video.

Correct - by releasing the video they were caught out.

Zionist liars.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Milltown this reminded of your arguments early a little bit

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1793502017538949331?t=g_jx53To1wsQET9V3PlmnQ&s=19

[Itchy]

Milltown this reminded of your arguments early a little bit

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1793502017538949331?t=g_jx53To1wsQET9V3PlmnQ&s=19

You can tell she really worries about the lives of Palestinians.

[armaghniac]

Western standards laid bare for all to see:

I'm not sure the term "Western" is appropriate, every west European country and Canada, Australia and New Zealand support the ICC.

The USA don't.

Then the post should have referred to the USA and not to "Western".

While your post shouldn't have made the claim that "every western country" supports the ICC.

Where I did make that claim?

[Milltown Row2]

Milltown this reminded of your arguments early a little bit

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1793502017538949331?t=g_jx53To1wsQET9V3PlmnQ&s=19

None whatsoever has that anything to do with what I said. Again show me where I said that no international pressure will result in no help for the people surviving in Gaza?

You are the master of spin. Like I said you'd be a good spokesperson for the IDF

You read something then assume something and then come on and spew some crap!

I'll be clear again, no conflict will be resolved in Gaza without sitting round a table, I can't help you understand that. Not one death is worth it. If you want something closer to home look at the troubles, I'm 52 years old and we still are under British rule while our political parties on the national side sit side by side with the unionists.

Throwing rocks at tanks won't bring about change, this 75 years of loss suffered by the Palestinian people is horrendous, if the current genocide attempt continues there won't be a country/people to go back to.

So these countries that are standing up to Israel are going to put political pressure on them, they are doing exactly what I said needs done, dialogue. Thanks for highlighting that.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Milltown this reminded of your arguments early a little bit

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1793502017538949331?t=g_jx53To1wsQET9V3PlmnQ&s=19

None whatsoever has that anything to do with what I said. Again show me where I said that no international pressure will result in no help for the people surviving in Gaza?

You are the master of spin. Like I said you'd be a good spokesperson for the IDF

You read something then assume something and then come on and spew some crap!

I'll be clear again, no conflict will be resolved in Gaza without sitting round a table, I can't help you understand that. Not one death is worth it. If you want something closer to home look at the troubles, I'm 52 years old and we still are under British rule while our political parties on the national side sit side by side with the unionists.

Throwing rocks at tanks won't bring about change, this 75 years of loss suffered by the Palestinian people is horrendous, if the current genocide attempt continues there won't be a country/people to go back to.

So these countries that are standing up to Israel are going to put political pressure on them, they are doing exactly what I said needs done, dialogue. Thanks for highlighting that.

The Israeli ambassador said doing what Ireland did does nothing to help Palestinians which is 'a little bit' like your patronising me for waving flags and boycotting, "but that won't stop non combatants from being obliterated".

what fantasy world do you live in where Israel sits round a table to end conflict in Gaza/palestine. What in 75 years of occupation, has indicated a willingness to do that, the Israelis outright saying there will be no two state solution, where the uk/us/germans etc. arm them while they commit a genocide and starve the palestines.. I cannot help you understand that!!!

was it the nakba, the osla accords, camp david, the increasing land grabs and settlements the 'mowing of the lawn' every few years, or the outcome of the peaceful great march that makes you think Israeli wants a lasting and just peace.

dialogue, the Israelis have recalled their ambassadors. they don't do dialogue. We have recognoised Palestine state something most of the world already does, its the close to the minimum we should do, and should have been done decades ago.

your solution is for Palestinians to act like good little prisoners some more and then Israel will start a dialogue at some point... deluded.

you keep asking me to show you where you said something, but suggesting what you are suggesting leaves the current reality for Palestinians which  is more occupation, more settlements, more apartheid, more death, more suffering.

[tonto1888]

Milltown this reminded of your arguments early a little bit

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1793502017538949331?t=g_jx53To1wsQET9V3PlmnQ&s=19

None whatsoever has that anything to do with what I said. Again show me where I said that no international pressure will result in no help for the people surviving in Gaza?

You are the master of spin. Like I said you'd be a good spokesperson for the IDF

You read something then assume something and then come on and spew some crap!

I'll be clear again, no conflict will be resolved in Gaza without sitting round a table, I can't help you understand that. Not one death is worth it. If you want something closer to home look at the troubles, I'm 52 years old and we still are under British rule while our political parties on the national side sit side by side with the unionists.

Throwing rocks at tanks won't bring about change, this 75 years of loss suffered by the Palestinian people is horrendous, if the current genocide attempt continues there won't be a country/people to go back to.

So these countries that are standing up to Israel are going to put political pressure on them, they are doing exactly what I said needs done, dialogue. Thanks for highlighting that.

While I agree with you I don't think the countries standing up to Israel will make one bit of a difference while they still have the support from the US

[Milltown Row2]

Milltown this reminded of your arguments early a little bit

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1793502017538949331?t=g_jx53To1wsQET9V3PlmnQ&s=19

None whatsoever has that anything to do with what I said. Again show me where I said that no international pressure will result in no help for the people surviving in Gaza?

You are the master of spin. Like I said you'd be a good spokesperson for the IDF

You read something then assume something and then come on and spew some crap!

I'll be clear again, no conflict will be resolved in Gaza without sitting round a table, I can't help you understand that. Not one death is worth it. If you want something closer to home look at the troubles, I'm 52 years old and we still are under British rule while our political parties on the national side sit side by side with the unionists.

Throwing rocks at tanks won't bring about change, this 75 years of loss suffered by the Palestinian people is horrendous, if the current genocide attempt continues there won't be a country/people to go back to.

So these countries that are standing up to Israel are going to put political pressure on them, they are doing exactly what I said needs done, dialogue. Thanks for highlighting that.

The Israeli ambassador said doing what Ireland did does nothing to help Palestinians which is 'a little bit' like your patronising me for waving flags and boycotting, "but that won't stop non combatants from being obliterated".

what fantasy world do you live in where Israel sits round a table to end conflict in Gaza/palestine. What in 75 years of occupation, has indicated a willingness to do that, the Israelis outright saying there will be no two state solution, where the uk/us/germans etc. arm them while they commit a genocide and starve the palestines.. I cannot help you understand that!!!

was it the nakba, the osla accords, camp david, the increasing land grabs and settlements the 'mowing of the lawn' every few years, or the outcome of the peaceful great march that makes you think Israeli wants a lasting and just peace.

dialogue, the Israelis have recalled their ambassadors. they don't do dialogue. We have recognoised Palestine state something most of the world already does, its the close to the minimum we should do, and should have been done decades ago.

your solution is for Palestinians to act like good little prisoners some more and then Israel will start a dialogue at some point... deluded.

you keep asking me to show you where you said something, but suggesting what you are suggesting leaves the current reality for Palestinians which  is more occupation, more settlements, more apartheid, more death, more suffering.

If you are going to quote me do it, but quote what I said, not what you think I mean.

Do you think taking Israel on with weapons will work?

What's the end game here for Palestine?

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Taking on Israel with weapons might work, nothing including peace has worked so far. Armed resistence is a right under an international law. I wouldn't denied Palestinians that right if they choose it.

the Palestinians want self determination. I think based on 67 border or close to it, Jerusalem as its capital, control of its land, sea and air borders and the right of return dealt with in someway would be agreeable to most Palestinians.

Given the UK/us/german/eu reaction to the genocide, in continuing to arm and support Israeli to carry out the genocide I have no clue what Palestinians can do, but they cannot accept the status quo, that is a slow death.

 zionists and their supporters do not see Palestinians as human, the openly called for a genocide and have said they won't be a 2 state solution.

[theskull1]

MR
Read this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm

Dyou know that Netenyahu funded Hamas so as to divide Palestinian allegiance in Gaza and the west bank? The PA were moving towards peace at that time and Israel didn't want it. They've never wanted a "partner for peace"

Can we not all agree that Zionism is the  problem. Heartless and evil cnuts

[whitey]

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/artc-father-and-son-terrorists-admit-to-murder-and-rape-of-israeli-women-on-oct-7

Lovely individuals-very "heroic"

In his own words

"He shamelessly described raping a crying woman at gunpoint and leaving her without knowing her fate. Abdallah's confession revealed a more harrowing truth: his father killed the woman after multiple rapes by the terrorists, including himself and his cousin"