Race for the ARAS 2025

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Rossfan

Did you find them yet?
Who are they?
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.


seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2025/10/27/gerard-howlin-if-micheal-martin-survives-this-his-achievement-will-almost-rival-catherine-connollys/

Catherine Connolly's election is a nadir for Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael. It is not just the debacle of the campaign. It is the reality that, for the first time since 2007, there will be an alternative government on offer at the next general election.
Sinn Féin was the big winner last Friday and Mary Lou McDonald for taoiseach is now a credible possibility. It is an each-way bet for Sinn Féin. If the left alliance can muster the numbers, that's fine. But if Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael fall back, and they can't make it together, Sinn Féin can and would consider a deal with Fianna Fáil under new leadership.



whitey

Quote from: Truthsayer on October 26, 2025, 07:14:38 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 26, 2025, 12:03:33 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 26, 2025, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 26, 2025, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 26, 2025, 10:47:39 AMConsidering Dana got 2% in 2011 it is doubtful there would have given a huge vote for Marie Steen this time. Esposing a similar return to the old Catholic ethos ruling Ireland.
Not a hope would Steen got in. Pity she didn't run wouldn't have to listen to all this girning from Toibín and Aontú folk.

You are probably right. Blocking her left her less open to scrutiny and accountability. She became far bigger than she really was shouting from the gallery and playing the victim.

That said we are in a different Ireland from when Dana ran in 2011.

The reality though is Her and her like are a threat and the momentum is building. So blocking her hides the true disquiet statistically for the moment.

 
Seems to be an overlap with the religious fundamentalism and far right MAGA mindset. Aontú paid huge tribute to Charlie Kirk.
She would have got torn apart in the debates with her record on different issues including same sex marriage and abortion... whatever one's opinion both were overwhelming voted in.

Whether you agree or disagree with her points of view, she would have wiped the floor with all of them in a debate


:D the Ireland you and Marie yearn for is gone Whitey. Those same sex marriage and abortion votes showed that as did Dana's effort to be President. It's 2025 not 1970.. thank God whoever your god maybe 🙏 

I disagree with Maria Steen on almost everything BUT it is important that hers and other dissenting voices be heard

I actually don't believe in God, but I respect people who do and I respect their perspectives and opinions

From the Bunker

Quote from: whitey on October 27, 2025, 08:58:37 PMI disagree with Maria Steen on almost everything BUT it is important that hers and other dissenting voices be heard

I actually don't believe in God, but I respect people who do and I respect their perspectives and opinions

That's is the importance of free speech and proper democracy.

Armagh18

Quote from: From the Bunker on October 27, 2025, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 27, 2025, 08:58:37 PMI disagree with Maria Steen on almost everything BUT it is important that hers and other dissenting voices be heard

I actually don't believe in God, but I respect people who do and I respect their perspectives and opinions

That's is the importance of free speech and proper democracy.
It is.

But democracy would be some shitshow if every Tom Dick and Harry could get on the ballot paper. Needs to be some sort of criteria.

The whole Steen thing gives me the feeling shes happier being able to sit on the sidelines; she wouldn't have had a hope of getting elected, would have got some votes of course but nowhere near winning.

If she cares that much she'll put the work in next time and get on the ballot paper. 

whitey

#1311
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 27, 2025, 09:37:39 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 27, 2025, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 27, 2025, 08:58:37 PMI disagree with Maria Steen on almost everything BUT it is important that hers and other dissenting voices be heard

I actually don't believe in God, but I respect people who do and I respect their perspectives and opinions

That's is the importance of free speech and proper democracy.
It is.

But democracy would be some shitshow if every Tom Dick and Harry could get on the ballot paper. Needs to be some sort of criteria.

The whole Steen thing gives me the feeling shes happier being able to sit on the sidelines; she wouldn't have had a hope of getting elected, would have got some votes of course but nowhere near winning.

If she cares that much she'll put the work in next time and get on the ballot paper. 

We had 6 on the last ballot and 8 on the one before

Were either of those elections a a $hit show?

We can talk all we want about her "not putting in the work" but in reality  didn't the main political parties (FF/FG) remove the path to the ballot through the local authorities that were available for the last two elections.


https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0906/1532140-fine-gael-presidential/

"For independents, council nominations have historically been a key path to the ballot paper - a path now threatened by party-political interference"

Truthsayer

Quote from: whitey on October 27, 2025, 08:58:37 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 26, 2025, 07:14:38 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 26, 2025, 12:03:33 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 26, 2025, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 26, 2025, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 26, 2025, 10:47:39 AMConsidering Dana got 2% in 2011 it is doubtful there would have given a huge vote for Marie Steen this time. Esposing a similar return to the old Catholic ethos ruling Ireland.
Not a hope would Steen got in. Pity she didn't run wouldn't have to listen to all this girning from Toibín and Aontú folk.

You are probably right. Blocking her left her less open to scrutiny and accountability. She became far bigger than she really was shouting from the gallery and playing the victim.

That said we are in a different Ireland from when Dana ran in 2011.

The reality though is Her and her like are a threat and the momentum is building. So blocking her hides the true disquiet statistically for the moment.

 
Seems to be an overlap with the religious fundamentalism and far right MAGA mindset. Aontú paid huge tribute to Charlie Kirk.
She would have got torn apart in the debates with her record on different issues including same sex marriage and abortion... whatever one's opinion both were overwhelming voted in.

Whether you agree or disagree with her points of view, she would have wiped the floor with all of them in a debate


:D the Ireland you and Marie yearn for is gone Whitey. Those same sex marriage and abortion votes showed that as did Dana's effort to be President. It's 2025 not 1970.. thank God whoever your god maybe 🙏 

I disagree with Maria Steen on almost everything BUT it is important that hers and other dissenting voices be heard

I actually don't believe in God, but I respect people who do and I respect their perspectives and opinions
Sorry doesn't do to be presumptuous had you down for the whole right wing package.. religious fundamentalism included.
Her opinions are well known. Doesn't mean she's entitled to rack up at the last minute and get running for President.