Hurling Refereeing and the let it go mentality.

[Milltown Row2]

whatever happened to applying the rules?

The minute referees do the likes of Cody start giving out about manliness, we're not football and other stuff.
The tackle is a huge issue - a lot of head high tackles, players barging through opponents.
The one issue I get annoyed about is steps. 4 steps is the rule. I've seen players get away with 8/9 steps (as they were avoiding a tackle) - it shouldn't matter

Correct, but it was nice to see Cody throw his arms up in the air in despair as the Kilkenny lads were on the receiving end of a lot of pulling and dragging, going to ground for James McGrath to award frees against them for overcarrying..
You reap what you sow Brian and everyone will be at it come summer time..

Watching it though there was some strange decisions given during the game

[johnneycool]

whatever happened to applying the rules?

The minute referees do the likes of Cody start giving out about manliness, we're not football and other stuff.
The tackle is a huge issue - a lot of head high tackles, players barging through opponents.
The one issue I get annoyed about is steps. 4 steps is the rule. I've seen players get away with 8/9 steps (as they were avoiding a tackle) - it shouldn't matter

Correct, but it was nice to see Cody throw his arms up in the air in despair as the Kilkenny lads were on the receiving end of a lot of pulling and dragging, going to ground for James McGrath to award frees against them for overcarrying..
You reap what you sow Brian and everyone will be at it come summer time..

Watching it though there was some strange decisions given during the game

Because its now on impossible to know what foul is actually being penalised as there's now a steady stream of fouls when anyone comes into contact, arm round the shoulders, overcarrying, a bit of a pull back, a few more steps and on we go..

[muppet]

Or the Brian Gavin version


Let it go, let it go,
Don't pull them back any more,
Let it go, let it go
Turn away, ignore the roar
I don't care what tipperary say
Let the game go on
Cody's gonna love me anyway,

Excellent. If we do a Cody verse and maybe a Ger Loughnane verse we might be on to something.

[Plain of the Herbs]

whatever happened to applying the rules?

The minute referees do the likes of Cody start giving out about manliness, we're not football and other stuff.
The tackle is a huge issue - a lot of head high tackles, players barging through opponents.
The one issue I get annoyed about is steps. 4 steps is the rule. I've seen players get away with 8/9 steps (as they were avoiding a tackle) - it shouldn't matter

Correct, but it was nice to see Cody throw his arms up in the air in despair as the Kilkenny lads were on the receiving end of a lot of pulling and dragging, going to ground for James McGrath to award frees against them for overcarrying..
You reap what you sow Brian and everyone will be at it come summer time..

Watching it though there was some strange decisions given during the game

Because its now on impossible to know what foul is actually being penalised as there's now a steady stream of fouls when anyone comes into contact, arm round the shoulders, overcarrying, a bit of a pull back, a few more steps and on we go..

Yes, which is why I think a quota system operates.  SAy there is a quota of 20 frees per game, the referee blows for a free about every 3 or 4 minutes.

I mean, if a referee (theoretically) blows for everything, there will be a free every minute, and the referee will be blamed for 'ruining' the game despite hardly any hurler on the field having a clue how to effect a tackle legally.

And if one team does all the fouling and the free count is heavily weighed in one team's favour (say 25 frees awarded to one team, 7 to the other). the referee will be blamed despite the fact one team was generally first to every ball and the team in possession generally are not the ones who do the fouling.

And on a wet day the referee is expected to lower the quota to 'allow for the conditions', so a forward can be swung around and not get a free, of there can be a free-for-all under a dropping ball but no free can be awarded to 'allow for the conditions'.

[deiseach]

I'd rather a referee blew for everything outside the 21m line. I  saw it early in the Waterford-Antrim game, where the ref waved play on about 50m from the Waterford goal after a foul. Antrim duly moved forward and lost possession. No advantage there. The free would have been 'advantage' enough, so why bother?

[johnneycool]

I'd rather a referee blew for everything outside the 21m line. I  saw it early in the Waterford-Antrim game, where the ref waved play on about 50m from the Waterford goal after a foul. Antrim duly moved forward and lost possession. No advantage there. The free would have been 'advantage' enough, so why bother?

When does the 5 second rule come in?

If a player doesn't want the 'advantage' the ref is giving him and wants the free, can he just throw the ball to the ground or something?

[muppet]

I'd rather a referee blew for everything outside the 21m line. I  saw it early in the Waterford-Antrim game, where the ref waved play on about 50m from the Waterford goal after a foul. Antrim duly moved forward and lost possession. No advantage there. The free would have been 'advantage' enough, so why bother?

When does the 5 second rule come in?

If a player doesn't want the 'advantage' the ref is giving him and wants the free, can he just throw the ball to the ground or something?

Yes imagine getting the advantage in injury time with the score level. How you do take the free rather than risk giving the opposition a chance to win it, and thus the real advantage?

[deiseach]

I've no idea about this new rule. As Lecale2 pointed out recently, a lot can happen in five seconds on a hurling pitch...