UK breakup - effect on Irish nationalism

[Eamonnca1]

What an interesting character. Who is this lad?

[Rossfan]

.  In the south you wouldn't have had the Magdalene laundries or education and social services outsourced to a paedophile ring,

Kincora 

[deiseach]

Hamill's spot on.  Partition led to a prod state for a prod people in the north and a taig state for a taig people in the south.  If all 32 counties had seceded from the UK the new state would have been much more balanced.  In the south you wouldn't have had the Magdalene laundries or education and social services outsourced to a paedophile ring, and in the north you wouldn't have had "catholics need not apply" job ads.

Yeah, you would have just had a bloodbath of Biblical proportions. Unionism's great Keyser Soze trick (aided and abetted in recent times by the Provos) is to get people to forget the armageddon they promised if they were forced into a united Ireland. And if the Curragh mutiny was anything to go by, the best Irish Nationalism could have hoped for would be the Brits standing by - worst case scenario being them joining in the carnage.

[Eamonnca1]

There was a civil war anyway.

[LondonCamanachd]

Hamill's spot on.  Partition led to a prod state for a prod people in the north and a taig state for a taig people in the south.  If all 32 counties had seceded from the UK the new state would have been much more balanced.  In the south you wouldn't have had the Magdalene laundries or education and social services outsourced to a paedophile ring, and in the north you wouldn't have had "catholics need not apply" job ads.

Yeah, you would have just had a bloodbath of Biblical proportions. Unionism's great Keyser Soze trick (aided and abetted in recent times by the Provos) is to get people to forget the armageddon they promised if they were forced into a united Ireland. And if the Curragh mutiny was anything to go by, the best Irish Nationalism could have hoped for would be the Brits standing by - worst case scenario being them joining in the carnage.

I was thinking thee article took a very optimistic view of the "What-if?" there.  I just can't see how a fledgling 32-county state would have stood up to the competing pressures.

Option 1 - "The long war" in the six counties, only this time round it's loyalists attacking the instruments of the Irish state;

Option 2 - A longer, bloodier Irish Civil War that ends in partition and reunification for part of the island;

Option 3 - A longer, bloodier civil war, ending with an independent statelet that loathes its southern neighbours, and the Brits for the betrayal of 1920?

[Maguire01]

Yeah, I don't think any option would have been without its difficulties.