Ex-treasurer told to repay €100,000 stolen from GAA

[Zapatista]

You're right - it has nothing to do with qualifications and everything to do with honesty and integrity.

Mr Collins said the GAA club operated on a shoestring budget and relied on the support of the local community and were struggling "big time" as a result of the theft.

If they operated on a shoestring budget, surely they should have noticed that €100k was missing a bit sooner?!

who would know ?
How many people have access to your clubs financial dealings or current bank balance ?

Surely more than one person - that's my point!

I'd say if the books were doctored well you would have no idea untill the cheque bounced.

So no one else would sign off a bank rec / see bank statements? really?

That would be the treasurer I'd assume? I could be wrong  but if it can happen in FAS it can happen in a GAA club and any other organisation.

[Maguire01]

You're right - it has nothing to do with qualifications and everything to do with honesty and integrity.

Mr Collins said the GAA club operated on a shoestring budget and relied on the support of the local community and were struggling "big time" as a result of the theft.

If they operated on a shoestring budget, surely they should have noticed that €100k was missing a bit sooner?!

who would know ?
How many people have access to your clubs financial dealings or current bank balance ?

Surely more than one person - that's my point!

I'd say if the books were doctored well you would have no idea untill the cheque bounced.

So no one else would sign off a bank rec / see bank statements? really?

That would be the treasurer I'd assume? I could be wrong  but if it can happen in FAS it can happen in a GAA club and any other organisation.

The Treasurer should prepare the ban rec, but someone independent of should sign it off (Chairman maybe?). It's a very basic control - segregation of duties - especially where there is a lot of actual cash. Maybe a lot of clubs can learn a lesson from this and tighten up their controls - to protect the integrity of the Treasurer as much as anything else.

[lynchbhoy]

You're right - it has nothing to do with qualifications and everything to do with honesty and integrity.

Mr Collins said the GAA club operated on a shoestring budget and relied on the support of the local community and were struggling "big time" as a result of the theft.

If they operated on a shoestring budget, surely they should have noticed that €100k was missing a bit sooner?!

who would know ?
How many people have access to your clubs financial dealings or current bank balance ?

Surely more than one person - that's my point!

I'll ask the question again, in YOUR club how many people have this access.

I am not in disagreement with your last post and how transparancey and protection should be in place, but as there are no guidelines for a club to set these up or what procedures to follow (yet) then I would bet that most clubs are like the clubs I have known on my travels and only the treasurer and maybe the chairman would actually know.

so , your club, do you know the financials? Do all committee members, do club members
how easy is it to get the info etc....

[moysider]

That s a bad case. The temptation for somebody with a problem with gambling etc etc could see them go down this road.

I know of a situation where a treasurer invented a phantom lotto winner in a sporting club in a different association. Only when the executive thought it would be a good idea if there was a photo of 'Mrs Murphy' with her cheque for the local paper that the truth emerged. Of course it was hush, hush because clubs would nt sell many lotto tickets if that kind of thing goes public. Needs to be a committee in charge of finances. Fairer on everybody. A gambler, alcoholic, somebody in debt can do stuff they normally would nt.