Conor McGregor

[imtommygunn]

What is the deal with people defending Tyson on rape and mcgregor on what he did? Tyson's rape conviction is dubious so it sounds like it doesn't count and "yer wan" is as bad as mcgregor? Seriously?

[Armagh18]

What is the deal with people defending Tyson on rape and mcgregor on what he did? Tyson's rape conviction is dubious so it sounds like it doesn't count and "yer wan" is as bad as mcgregor? Seriously?

I wasn't defending Tyson, just that his conviction is very rarely mentioned and he's still respected and  looked up to even by traditional media and seems to have escaped the "cancelling" or what ever you'd want to call it.

[Look-Up!]

Huge international "sports star". Was very talented fighter back in the day but has largely made his money from motor mouthing and "fighting" in a huge exhibition con. Completely lost his way as a fighter and sold out to cheap easy money. Keeps talking about getting back in the ring to remain relevant but he's the furthest thing from a serious fighter you could get. Blood pressure looks off the scale, head about to pop. Will be another BS exhibition if he does get back in ring.

Unfortunately still hugely popular. An absolutely terrible role model. Should be an inspirational figure in a sporting context for a small country like ours but there's too much fake, brash and unsavoury about him to ever be an Irish sporting hero to be proud of.

He had a huge role in promoting MMA to the mainstream. There are some great athletes and role models in the game and it is a skilled and disciplined sport but I don't think MMA in general is a very good role model to the masses. Maybe I'm old fashioned but pounding someone when they're prone and down and out on the floor doesn't sit well with me. Laying the boot in too. Growing up, if involved in a brawl, only a tr**p would not let someone up or kick when they're down.

[jmcgdoire]

For me the most striking thing was that Conor's comments to Paul Hughes were reactionary and instinctual. Throwing about phrases like "foreign" "the real Irish" and "you little know what you are **** from up there" just shows that these thoughts are on the minds of Southerners when talking about Northerners.

And I know its not all Southerners, but its not an insignificant number either. Even the finest Gaels in the South have been accused numerous times of abusing teams from the six counties calling them Nordies and Prods. Ironically a friend of mine from Armagh told me he was once called a "Nordie c**t" by Donegal men in Ulster Championship.

Sickening stuff, but a poppy-wearing racist acussing a Derry man of not being Irish is just a cherry on top.

[imtommygunn]

McGregor has been using that kind of language since those riots etc and just grouped a northerner in with the way he talks about immigrants. A lot of it I imagine was reactionary and fuelled by any manner of substances. His race has been ran tbh. A has been. It is absolute car crash stuff how the man has went. He's one of those ones that if you looked at the news in the morning and read he was dead you wouldn't be surprised with the way he lives his life.

Armagh18 you used the word "dubious". I am not sure why you used that word for Tyson. Your explanation doesn't tally with your use of the word though fair enough.

[Armagh18]

McGregor has been using that kind of language since those riots etc and just grouped a northerner in with the way he talks about immigrants. A lot of it I imagine was reactionary and fuelled by any manner of substances. His race has been ran tbh. A has been. It is absolute car crash stuff how the man has went. He's one of those ones that if you looked at the news in the morning and read he was dead you wouldn't be surprised with the way he lives his life.

Armagh18 you used the word "dubious". I am not sure why you used that word for Tyson. Your explanation doesn't tally with your use of the word though fair enough.

I honestly don't know much about the whole Tyson case and had read (possibly one here or elsewhere) that there were a lot of questions around it and a lot of doubt whether he was actually guilty, was wondering if that is possibly why it doesn't get mentioned or if enough time has passed that people have moved on/forgiven him? I don't know.

[Dagda Moore]

No, of course he wasn't. He behaved like a p***k, but yer wan was no better.

Yes. A rapist's victim is "no better" than her rapist.

He was brought down partly by his own stupidity, but partly by an establishment bent on bringing him down because he was seen as a threat

Well I mean...it could be that his downfall was down to the establishment being out to get him. Then again, it could also have something to do with him having raped someone. Possibly not helped by him being a pensioner assaulting, racist, homophonic, partitionist, poppy wearing, facist endorsing, adulterous coke head.

She was also an adulterous coke-head. Not admirable specimens, either of them.

[Truthsayer]

No, of course he wasn't. He behaved like a p***k, but yer wan was no better.

Yes. A rapist's victim is "no better" than her rapist.

He was brought down partly by his own stupidity, but partly by an establishment bent on bringing him down because he was seen as a threat

Well I mean...it could be that his downfall was down to the establishment being out to get him. Then again, it could also have something to do with him having raped someone. Possibly not helped by him being a pensioner assaulting, racist, homophonic, partitionist, poppy wearing, facist endorsing, adulterous coke head.

She was also an adulterous coke-head. Not admirable specimens, either of them.

Which does not give him a licence to rape her.

[Dagda Moore]

No, of course he wasn't. He behaved like a p***k, but yer wan was no better.

Yes. A rapist's victim is "no better" than her rapist.

He was brought down partly by his own stupidity, but partly by an establishment bent on bringing him down because he was seen as a threat

Well I mean...it could be that his downfall was down to the establishment being out to get him. Then again, it could also have something to do with him having raped someone. Possibly not helped by him being a pensioner assaulting, racist, homophonic, partitionist, poppy wearing, facist endorsing, adulterous coke head.

She was also an adulterous coke-head. Not admirable specimens, either of them.

Which does not give him a licence to rape her.

No, didn't say it did. But she was just hoping for a big pay-out from the whole sordid affair. Put it this way, my heart bleeds for neither of them.

[Truthsayer]

No, of course he wasn't. He behaved like a p***k, but yer wan was no better.

Yes. A rapist's victim is "no better" than her rapist.

He was brought down partly by his own stupidity, but partly by an establishment bent on bringing him down because he was seen as a threat

Well I mean...it could be that his downfall was down to the establishment being out to get him. Then again, it could also have something to do with him having raped someone. Possibly not helped by him being a pensioner assaulting, racist, homophonic, partitionist, poppy wearing, facist endorsing, adulterous coke head.

She was also an adulterous coke-head. Not admirable specimens, either of them.

Which does not give him a licence to rape her.

No, didn't say it did. But she was just hoping for a big pay-out from the whole sordid affair. Put it this way, my heart bleeds for neither of them.

Quite entitled to a pay-out after being subjected to rape. Victim blaming is not a good look...

[Dagda Moore]

No, of course he wasn't. He behaved like a p***k, but yer wan was no better.

Yes. A rapist's victim is "no better" than her rapist.

He was brought down partly by his own stupidity, but partly by an establishment bent on bringing him down because he was seen as a threat

Well I mean...it could be that his downfall was down to the establishment being out to get him. Then again, it could also have something to do with him having raped someone. Possibly not helped by him being a pensioner assaulting, racist, homophonic, partitionist, poppy wearing, facist endorsing, adulterous coke head.

She was also an adulterous coke-head. Not admirable specimens, either of them.

Which does not give him a licence to rape her.

No, didn't say it did. But she was just hoping for a big pay-out from the whole sordid affair. Put it this way, my heart bleeds for neither of them.

Quite entitled to a pay-out after being subjected to rape. Victim blaming is not a good look...

Nor is 'victim'-worship.

[Truthsayer]

No, of course he wasn't. He behaved like a p***k, but yer wan was no better.

Yes. A rapist's victim is "no better" than her rapist.

He was brought down partly by his own stupidity, but partly by an establishment bent on bringing him down because he was seen as a threat

Well I mean...it could be that his downfall was down to the establishment being out to get him. Then again, it could also have something to do with him having raped someone. Possibly not helped by him being a pensioner assaulting, racist, homophonic, partitionist, poppy wearing, facist endorsing, adulterous coke head.

She was also an adulterous coke-head. Not admirable specimens, either of them.

Which does not give him a licence to rape her.

No, didn't say it did. But she was just hoping for a big pay-out from the whole sordid affair. Put it this way, my heart bleeds for neither of them.

Quite entitled to a pay-out after being subjected to rape. Victim blaming is not a good look...

Nor is 'victim'-worship.

Is a desperate attitude to female victims here. Natasha O'Brien getting hammered on social for having the courage to speak out after that hammering from another maggot the soldier Cathal Crotty.
... if it had been a 'foreigner' carried out the rape or assault be total outrage, but victim blaming when our lads to do it.

[Armagh18]

No, of course he wasn't. He behaved like a p***k, but yer wan was no better.

Yes. A rapist's victim is "no better" than her rapist.

He was brought down partly by his own stupidity, but partly by an establishment bent on bringing him down because he was seen as a threat

Well I mean...it could be that his downfall was down to the establishment being out to get him. Then again, it could also have something to do with him having raped someone. Possibly not helped by him being a pensioner assaulting, racist, homophonic, partitionist, poppy wearing, facist endorsing, adulterous coke head.

She was also an adulterous coke-head. Not admirable specimens, either of them.

Which does not give him a licence to rape her.

No, didn't say it did. But she was just hoping for a big pay-out from the whole sordid affair. Put it this way, my heart bleeds for neither of them.

Quite entitled to a pay-out after being subjected to rape. Victim blaming is not a good look...

Nor is 'victim'-worship.

Is a desperate attitude to female victims here. Natasha O'Brien getting hammered on social for having the courage to speak out after that hammering from another maggot the soldier Cathal Crotty.
... if it had been a 'foreigner' carried out the rape or assault be total outrage, but victim blaming when our lads to do it.

What did Natasha O'Brien supposedly do wrong? If its the case I'm thinking of, remember seeing pictures of her face afterwards, jesus no woman deserves that beating so not sure how your mans actions could be defended

[Truthsayer]

No, of course he wasn't. He behaved like a p***k, but yer wan was no better.

Yes. A rapist's victim is "no better" than her rapist.

He was brought down partly by his own stupidity, but partly by an establishment bent on bringing him down because he was seen as a threat

Well I mean...it could be that his downfall was down to the establishment being out to get him. Then again, it could also have something to do with him having raped someone. Possibly not helped by him being a pensioner assaulting, racist, homophonic, partitionist, poppy wearing, facist endorsing, adulterous coke head.

She was also an adulterous coke-head. Not admirable specimens, either of them.

Which does not give him a licence to rape her.

No, didn't say it did. But she was just hoping for a big pay-out from the whole sordid affair. Put it this way, my heart bleeds for neither of them.

Quite entitled to a pay-out after being subjected to rape. Victim blaming is not a good look...

Nor is 'victim'-worship.

Is a desperate attitude to female victims here. Natasha O'Brien getting hammered on social for having the courage to speak out after that hammering from another maggot the soldier Cathal Crotty.
... if it had been a 'foreigner' carried out the rape or assault be total outrage, but victim blaming when our lads to do it.

What did Natasha O'Brien supposedly do wrong? If its the case I'm thinking of, remember seeing pictures of her face afterwards, jesus no woman deserves that beating so not sure how your mans actions could be defended

I've seen comments on social media suggesting she shouldn't have got involved like it was her own fault and many more now calling her a publicity seeker now.. many.
Original sentence tells you all about attitude to violence against women here. Took a female judge to jail him after Prosecution appealed leniency of sentence.

[general_lee]

What did Natasha O'Brien supposedly do wrong? If its the case I'm thinking of, remember seeing pictures of her face afterwards, jesus no woman deserves that beating so not sure how your mans actions could be defended

His mate was shouting homophobic abuse and she told him to stop, Crotty then battered her. He then boasted about it on Snapchat. A proper rat.