The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

[Boycey]

Seeing as apologies are all the rage I wonder if Klopp will have the manners to apologise to Gary Neville....

[Hound]

Seeing as apologies are all the rage I wonder if Klopp will have the manners to apologise to Gary Neville....

You're a bit behind. Neville already apologised to Klopp "live and exclusive" on Sky Sports.

[north_antrim_hound]

Seeing as apologies are all the rage I wonder if Klopp will have the manners to apologise to Gary Neville....

Neville has been brilliant During this whole farce but when he degrades the YNWA motif then he's crossing the line but Klopp was taking it to seriously. Neville was mostly complementary of Liverpool and was just trying to mobilize a Revolt which he did. Don't think an apology is due as emotions have been running high. Should you not be more pre occupied with getting an apology from Glacier.

[north_antrim_hound]

https://twitter.com/lfc/status/1384763846557147142?s=21

I'm maybe judging this wrong but that it did come across as sincere and a genuine attempt to mend some broken bridges,  considering where FSG has taken us and they do seem to want to win trophies unlike the Glacier family who want the money first I think it's time to let it go.

[bigarsedkeeper]

https://twitter.com/lfc/status/1384763846557147142?s=21

I'm maybe judging this wrong but that it did come across as sincere and a genuine attempt to mend some broken bridges,  considering where FSG has taken us and they do seem to want to win trophies unlike the Glacier family who want the money first I think it's time to let it go.

From a United supporter I'd say the only difference is he wants to stay on side with Liverpool fans whereas the Glazers couldn't give a shite what we think of them. If you think FSG weren't as much into this as everyone else you're fooling yourself. I think they're better owners than the Glazers but that's not saying much.

When you're winning it's easy to say they're great fellas. We've been through that. 

[Armamike]

I was willing to give FSG some slack for the previous errors of judgement but really they should go.  They're nowhere near as crass as Hicks and Gillette, but they've shown time and again that they've got zero understanding of the club and the game.  They've alienated the supporters and possibly caused terminal damage to their relationship with Klopp and other staff at the club, who have been treated shabbily here.

I don't know who would replace them and perhaps it would be more of the same with different owners, but in an ideal world FSG should be planning an exit strategy.

[north_antrim_hound]

I was willing to give FSG some slack for the previous errors of judgement but really they should go.  They're nowhere near as crass as Hicks and Gillette, but they've shown time and again that they've got zero understanding of the club and the game.  They've alienated the supporters and possibly caused terminal damage to their relationship with Klopp and other staff at the club, who have been treated shabbily here.

I don't know who would replace them and perhaps it would be more of the same with different owners, but in an ideal world FSG should be planning an exit strategy.

That's the crux of it but, if they do go who's to say the next shower won't be worse. Then again I don't think someone like the glacier family would have lasted as long At Anfield.

[trueblue1234]

I was willing to give FSG some slack for the previous errors of judgement but really they should go.  They're nowhere near as crass as Hicks and Gillette, but they've shown time and again that they've got zero understanding of the club and the game.  They've alienated the supporters and possibly caused terminal damage to their relationship with Klopp and other staff at the club, who have been treated shabbily here.

I don't know who would replace them and perhaps it would be more of the same with different owners, but in an ideal world FSG should be planning an exit strategy.

It's sometimes a case of better the devil you know. I don't think anyone buying LFC will be doing so from a football perspective unfortunately. It's a business, and it will be business owners driving it. For that reason alone I wouldn't be jumping up and down to get them out. Won't be running to defend them either tho.

[Maroon Manc]

FSG are in it to make money, not sure why anyone would expect any different from the,; The only difference between them and the Glazers is they are more competent businessmen, self made men unlike the Glazer siblings who inherited their wealth.

[Boycey]

Seeing as apologies are all the rage I wonder if Klopp will have the manners to apologise to Gary Neville....

Neville has been brilliant During this whole farce but when he degrades the YNWA motif then he's crossing the line but Klopp was taking it to seriously. Neville was mostly complementary of Liverpool and was just trying to mobilize a Revolt which he did. Don't think an apology is due as emotions have been running high. Should you not be more pre occupied with getting an apology from Glacier.

I'd say the owners degraded the YNWA not Gary Neville? He's not the bogeyman here, nowhere close..

https://twitter.com/offtheball/status/1384570056781307909?s=19

Anyway me and Tony reckon he's owed an apology.

As for the 'Glaciers' their apology wouldn't matter a shiny shite, I know what they are...

[north_antrim_hound]

Seeing as apologies are all the rage I wonder if Klopp will have the manners to apologise to Gary Neville....

Neville has been brilliant During this whole farce but when he degrades the YNWA motif then he's crossing the line but Klopp was taking it to seriously. Neville was mostly complementary of Liverpool and was just trying to mobilize a Revolt which he did. Don't think an apology is due as emotions have been running high. Should you not be more pre occupied with getting an apology from Glacier.

I'd say the owners degraded the YNWA not Gary Neville? He's not the bogeyman here, nowhere close..

https://twitter.com/offtheball/status/1384570056781307909?s=19

Anyway me and Tony reckon he's owed an apology.

As for the 'Glaciers' their apology wouldn't matter a shiny shite, I know what they are...

Well as a Liverpool fan I applaud Gary Neville for 99% of his input but YNWA is sung by the fans not FSG and TBH your views on Klopps reaction is of little interest to me.

[seafoid]

Liverpool supporters — and Jurgen Klopp — will never forget John W Henry's betrayal
Klopp had to stand by as his owners signed off a project that sullied everything that he had created, and all in which he had taken pride


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/04/20/jurgen-klopp-used-human-shield-liverpools-cowardly-owners/
OLIVER BROWN
CHIEF SPORTS WRITER
20 April 2021 • 11:51pm
Oliver Brown

Jürgen Klopp will never forget how he has been treated these past 48 hours. While he has had his honour and his sincerity questioned live on national television for perceived complicity in the European Super League, owner John W Henry and co-conspirators at Fenway Sports Group have sat silently in their Boston lair, saying nothing until universal outrage compelled them to abandon their plot. And even then, their volte face lacked any semblance of contrition or grace. The fiercest protests by their fans were characterised as "representations by key stakeholders". Far from apologising, they wished to "thank them for their valuable contributions".

Quite the unravelling, all told, for a self-styled people's club. Of all the antics by the "dirty dozen", Liverpool's have been perhaps the most discordant. Just 10 months after Klopp engineered one of the most emotional achievements at Anfield, a first league title since 1990, an unaccountable US cabal has antagonised not just supporters but a revered manager. And all for what? For a project that has foundered in the space of two days, a folly that deserves its own hall of infamy as perhaps the most monumentally conceited enterprise ever attempted in the name of sport.

The shattering of a grand delusion has been rapid. But the shadow cast by these events will be long. Lifelong supporters have been condescended to as "legacy fans", while managers have been made to look like fools. The rupture is irrevocable. Ed Woodward fell on his sword as Manchester United's executive vice-chairman, but his will not be the only blood on the carpet. Not when owners have perpetrated such an appalling betrayal, setting fire to everything that their clubs' fans hold dear.


Never will Henry's treacly praise for Klopp be taken seriously again. "I could go on and on about Jürgen, how his heart is larger than his frame, how his enthusiasm affects all of us positively every day," he gushed last summer. This week, he left Klopp to be doused in the wild vitriol unleashed by his precious Super League, watching the carnage unfold from across the Atlantic.

Klopp, at heart, is a dignified and sensitive man. He loves Liverpool with an intensity that Henry cannot begin to understand, joining supporters in their chants and weeping after a first title triumph in 30 years. He adores the Champions League, too, having won it in 2019 and reached the final with two different clubs. He abhors the notion of a competition that would destroy it, having been reared in a Bundesliga culture that wanted nothing to do with the Super League's conceit.


And yet there he was at Elland Road, forced to fend off the swarming outrage essentially alone. He was powerless as Leeds United players left mocking T-shirts in the Liverpool dressing room. He looked on desperately as Gary Neville dismantled the message of You'll Never Walk Alone. He wanted, clearly, to demolish the Super League with every passionate flourish he had, but understood that he was gagged.

That was the bleakness of Klopp's position: that he had to stand passively by as his owners signed off a project that sullied everything that he had created, and everything in which he had taken pride, right down to Liverpool's most sacred anthem. Allied to this, he had to absorb all the sound and fury directed at a ghastly idea of which he wanted no part. His owners' posture was one of quite contemptible cowardice.

We now see, all too starkly, that this is the way with arriviste Premier League owners. They love to lap up the glory, as when Henry wrote a long letter to Liverpool supporters about their shared joy at a sixth European Cup, or when Manchester United's Joel Glazer shuffled awkwardly on stage to toast the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the other part of his paternal inheritance, winning this year's Super Bowl. But when it comes to any decision for which they might be rebuked, they go to ground.

We have grown to accept the muteness of these men as a given. It has somehow become established that the Glazers can saddle United with unconscionable levels of debt and never have to account for it. It is a matter of comedy that Arsenal are owned by a man who goes by the nickname of "Silent Stan". On Tuesday night though, the laughter stopped, and rebellion prevailed.


In time, Thomas Tuchel will wonder what on earth he had done to deserve this. After leading Chelsea into an FA Cup final and the last four of the Champions League, he was sent out to defend a concept developed far above his pay grade, and which drew blanket horror. From Roman Abramovich, of course, there was not a squeak, save for a belated confirmation Chelsea had set the dominoes falling with their request for a Super League exit.

As for Klopp, the depth of his rage can only be guessed at. This week, he has appeared tempted to walk. "If it would help that I go, then I'm already out," he said. In his pain, we have seen the price that is paid for entrusting beloved institutions to billionaires who seem to revel in their remoteness. Klopp, on his own merits, has risen to join the most venerated Liverpool figures. But his faint-hearted owners saw fit to use him solely as a human shield. It leaves a stain that can never be erased.

[laoislad]

Seeing as apologies are all the rage I wonder if Klopp will have the manners to apologise to Gary Neville....

You're a bit behind. Neville already apologised to Klopp "live and exclusive" on Sky Sports.

But sure Gary has just single-handedly saved football don't you know!

[Maroon Manc]

Seeing as apologies are all the rage I wonder if Klopp will have the manners to apologise to Gary Neville....

You're a bit behind. Neville already apologised to Klopp "live and exclusive" on Sky Sports.

But sure Gary has just single-handedly saved football don't you know!

What exactly is Gary's intentions with Salford and just took him the 16 years to slate the Glazers, funnily enough a few weeks after United had appointed a director of football. Neville spoke well but he's clearly a huge hypocrite.

[johnnycool]

Klopp being lauded for coming out against the ESL...

TBH I thought he sat on the fence when interviewed after the Monday night game unless he said something different yesterday!