Quote from: cornafean on October 29, 2008, 05:21:25 PMQuote from: Rebel In The Kingdom on October 29, 2008, 03:40:50 PM
One thing strikes me (no pun intended..) & consider this for a moment - why does only one name go forward for consideration for Cork hurling manager?? It doesn't cross the collective consciousness that an alternative should at least be considered?
Would that be credible in Kerry or Kilkenny if the incumbent manager's record was of a similar nature - no AI appearance, no MF honours - no silverware at all... ... I'm not saying that Gerard McCarthy should not have been selected but best practice (and common sense) dicate that alternatives should have been considered.
But it is quite normal and commonplace for sitting managers to be returned unopposed for another term? And presumably any club in any county that wants to nominate a challenger for a management position is entitled to do so, even if an incumbent holds the position already? Even Kilkenny and Kerry have been known to retain managers in years when they won nothing.
Quote from: cornafean on October 29, 2008, 05:21:25 PMQuote from: Rebel In The Kingdom on October 29, 2008, 03:40:50 PM
One thing strikes me (no pun intended..) & consider this for a moment - why does only one name go forward for consideration for Cork hurling manager?? It doesn't cross the collective consciousness that an alternative should at least be considered?
Would that be credible in Kerry or Kilkenny if the incumbent manager's record was of a similar nature - no AI appearance, no MF honours - no silverware at all... ... I'm not saying that Gerard McCarthy should not have been selected but best practice (and common sense) dicate that alternatives should have been considered.
But it is quite normal and commonplace for sitting managers to be returned unopposed for another term? And presumably any club in any county that wants to nominate a challenger for a management position is entitled to do so, even if an incumbent holds the position already? Even Kilkenny and Kerry have been known to retain managers in years when they won nothing.
Retaining a manager is one thing, the fact that the committee that is responsible for selecting the new manager doesn't consider any another candidate is quite another, especially when many people (justifiably IMO) believe that Frank M is orchestrating this to return to the pre 2002 status . I take the point that unsuccessful managers are often retained but surely some sort of progress should have been shown to justify an automatic selection.
I think it's fair to argue that Cork hurling has probably lost ground since John Allen's time - now that shouldn't all be laid at Gerald's door - players with perhaps too many miles on the clock, competing in 4 AI finals in a row etc. are all factors too - but the questions should be asked of Gerald's managerial skills versus what else might be on offer as part of any logical assessment of the current state of play. That didn't take place because in my view
This is round 3 between Frank & the players. My initial gut reaction on hearing about this to think the players had lost the run of themselves. Gerald Mac is a decent skin in my view and doesn't deserved to used and abused in this way. However having considered it a little bit more, I'm back to supporting the players (and feeling a bit sorry for Gerald ) as it all boils down to one thing for me - The Cork players want to win games, my feeling is that Frank would prefer winning the argument over winning games.
I've heard it said around home on many an occasion that Frank's messing costs Cork a title a decade. Why else is one of our most talented native sons - Justin McCarthy not even discussed as a possible manager?
And before anybody starts giving the clubs and democracy argument - talk to someone who knows a little about the Cork CB and it's full time secretary.