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#1
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 05:42:29 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 09, 2021, 05:39:48 PM
Quote from: TMAC on September 09, 2021, 05:34:20 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 09, 2021, 05:30:28 PM
It's just that you are coming across as though you are raging.

Hopefully you ain't teaching anything of importance, kids would be as well at home.
You are very abusive.

I hope for the sake of anyone close to you that you save this nasty side for internet discussion boards.

And for the sake of the kids you're more intelligent than you come across.
#2
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 05:41:17 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 09, 2021, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: TMAC on September 09, 2021, 05:09:43 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 09, 2021, 04:01:05 PM
Quote from: TMAC on September 09, 2021, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 09, 2021, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: TMAC on September 09, 2021, 01:09:57 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 09, 2021, 01:04:37 PM

Well now, this is just nonsense. There is no definitive research that day 3 is more optimal than day 2. Irrespective, this bananas approach of quarantining children with this thing is illogical. Who is it protecting?

It is protecting no one just causing chaos in the communities.

That proves my point - they dont know what is the opitmal day to test , but you think it is okay to congregrate in a classroom of 30 !

By isolating, you are protecting that same community and reducing covid cases , surely the target is to get case numbers as low as possible. I appreciate that is a tough ask , but by staggering covid cases in a school community over a 6 - 18 day period , it isnt the solution either

Quote from: delgany on September 09, 2021, 11:32:44 AM

Close contacts out for 10 days - IS the easiest way to manage in school. Straight forward to sort & manage !

You are looking children who have tested negative to keep isolating for 10 days - can you explain why apart from it is easiest for the school?

Yes because the PCR test could be -ve on Day 2 but +ve on Day 3, how can you determine what is safe for every child in a class.?  Most children are asymptomatic ...which is another problem.
Covid cases numbers arent coming down that significantly either

Many kids dying or in ICU, you would have the schools closed, when would you reopen when covid is wiped out?

I would isolate a class if positive case in it, which is a long way from closing a school.
I would maintain that position until +ve  case numbers are greatly reduced, rather than increasing as they seem to be doing !

This is gold, so a physics class has a positive case, the whole class is isolated for 10 days, what about the close contacts who were also in chemistry, maths, English etc. that same day?
#3
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 05:34:20 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 09, 2021, 05:30:28 PM
It's just that you are coming across as though you are raging.

Hopefully you ain't teaching anything of importance, kids would be as well at home.
#4
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 05:25:33 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 09, 2021, 05:18:42 PM
Are you raging?

I assume you are a student teacher. You must be still in the hormonal years to think anything you could say would enlist any emotion from anyone.
#5
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 05:18:10 PM
It's always pathetic when a condescending teacher tries to be funny, they must think we are all children.
#6
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 05:11:12 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 09, 2021, 05:09:19 PM
It's the "if you don't test for it, it doesn't exist" theory going into practice. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out.

Shit might you have to do some work now?
#7
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 05:09:43 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 09, 2021, 04:01:05 PM
Quote from: TMAC on September 09, 2021, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 09, 2021, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: TMAC on September 09, 2021, 01:09:57 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 09, 2021, 01:04:37 PM

Well now, this is just nonsense. There is no definitive research that day 3 is more optimal than day 2. Irrespective, this bananas approach of quarantining children with this thing is illogical. Who is it protecting?

It is protecting no one just causing chaos in the communities.

That proves my point - they dont know what is the opitmal day to test , but you think it is okay to congregrate in a classroom of 30 !

By isolating, you are protecting that same community and reducing covid cases , surely the target is to get case numbers as low as possible. I appreciate that is a tough ask , but by staggering covid cases in a school community over a 6 - 18 day period , it isnt the solution either

Quote from: delgany on September 09, 2021, 11:32:44 AM

Close contacts out for 10 days - IS the easiest way to manage in school. Straight forward to sort & manage !

You are looking children who have tested negative to keep isolating for 10 days - can you explain why apart from it is easiest for the school?

Yes because the PCR test could be -ve on Day 2 but +ve on Day 3, how can you determine what is safe for every child in a class.?  Most children are asymptomatic ...which is another problem.
Covid cases numbers arent coming down that significantly either

Many kids dying or in ICU, you would have the schools closed, when would you reopen when covid is wiped out?
#8
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 09, 2021, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: TMAC on September 09, 2021, 01:09:57 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 09, 2021, 01:04:37 PM

Well now, this is just nonsense. There is no definitive research that day 3 is more optimal than day 2. Irrespective, this bananas approach of quarantining children with this thing is illogical. Who is it protecting?

It is protecting no one just causing chaos in the communities.

That proves my point - they dont know what is the opitmal day to test , but you think it is okay to congregrate in a classroom of 30 !

By isolating, you are protecting that same community and reducing covid cases , surely the target is to get case numbers as low as possible. I appreciate that is a tough ask , but by staggering covid cases in a school community over a 6 - 18 day period , it isnt the solution either

Quote from: delgany on September 09, 2021, 11:32:44 AM

Close contacts out for 10 days - IS the easiest way to manage in school. Straight forward to sort & manage !

You are looking children who have tested negative to keep isolating for 10 days - can you explain why apart from it is easiest for the school?
#9
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 02:03:20 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 09, 2021, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: TMAC on September 09, 2021, 01:09:57 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 09, 2021, 01:04:37 PM

Well now, this is just nonsense. There is no definitive research that day 3 is more optimal than day 2. Irrespective, this bananas approach of quarantining children with this thing is illogical. Who is it protecting?

It is protecting no one just causing chaos in the communities.

That proves my point - they dont know what is the opitmal day to test , but you think it is okay to congregrate in a classroom of 30 !

By isolating, you are protecting that same community and reducing covid cases , surely the target is to get case numbers as low as possible. I appreciate that is a tough ask , but by staggering covid cases in a school community over a 6 - 18 day period , it isnt the solution either

Care to address this?

Quote from: TMAC on September 09, 2021, 12:03:35 PM

The close contacts are based on seating arrangements in a class, what about the bus to school the bus home - it's nonsensical and it's breaking no cycle - child A is a close contact of child B and is told to isolate for 10 days, day 11 Child A is a close contact of child C and again has to isolate for 10 days - you see what is happening here - complete shit show!
#10
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 01:09:57 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 09, 2021, 01:04:37 PM

Well now, this is just nonsense. There is no definitive research that day 3 is more optimal than day 2. Irrespective, this bananas approach of quarantining children with this thing is illogical. Who is it protecting?

It is protecting no one just causing chaos in the communities.
#11
Imagine how much fitter they will be having now completely got over covid!
#12
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 12:56:44 PM
At start of week primary school in Armagh had all P4's sent home.
#13
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 12:55:52 PM
A friend of my daughters came back yesterday after a negative PCR test on Tuesday only to be sent home again today - the shit show that keeps on giving.
#14
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 12:12:46 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 09, 2021, 12:11:43 PM
Ulster Teaching Union says schools need to look at a longer self isolation period  ???

Of course they did, probably till Christmas - poor teachers are under so much pressure.
#15
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 09, 2021, 12:03:35 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 09, 2021, 11:39:37 AM
Quote from: Cobra on September 09, 2021, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: delgany on September 09, 2021, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 09, 2021, 10:43:30 AM
Quote from: delgany on September 08, 2021, 10:21:16 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 08, 2021, 10:05:40 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on September 08, 2021, 09:52:07 PM
My child can now go anywhere she likes after testing negative but because the school has decided not to follow the guidance she can't attend school for the next 8 days.
Primary or post-primary?

I'm surprised that some schools are going against the guidance. There couldn't be many.

The current guidance in the North is complete bollocks tbh.
If a child has Covid , all close contacts should isolate for 10 days.
No variables allowed. Breaks the cycle of close contacts, spreading the virus continously around the classroom/ school.

I

This is not the guidance in the north.

If a child is deemed a close contact - and are not vaccinated - then they must pass a PCR test to return to school. In most cases, this is a 2 day turn around.

And as I said , that  guidance s complete nonsense .
A child/ pupil can be -ve on day 2 , if they are lucky enough to get a PCR test,  but be positive on Day 5 and spread the virus around the room. Research is indicating that Day 3 should be the opitimal day for testing in first place.
The guidance is not a statutory requirement.
Close contacts out for 10 days - IS the easiest way to manage in school. Straight forward to sort & manage !

Are you f**king mental? 10 days? There'll be nobody left in the schools.
Teachers should all be vaccinated. There is minuscule risk to the kids. There is absolutely no need to test for this virus.

How do you know schools are empty ?

So, do you think herd immunity is the way to go?
By isolating, you break the cycle, curb the infection rates, stop people getting sick.

The close contacts are based on seating arrangements in a class, what about the bus to school the bus home - it's nonsensical and it's breaking no cycle - child A is a close contact of child B and is told to isolate for 10 days, day 11 Child A is a close contact of child C and again has to isolate for 10 days - you see what is happening her - complete shit show!