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  Just bantering as that has been thrown by detractors for many year though I know plenty of the guys who were successful and know they were reared in the club.

If you go back to the when we started to do well again at senior it was based on winning 4/5 minor in a row as well as 4/5 under 21 in a row... it didn't happen straight away ... we had a couple of decent juvenile teams which all came together at senior

And acquiring a few boys from elsewhere..........

Look I am taking nothing away from St Galls at all they have had an absolutely outstanding run and things do come in cycles.  You mention Rossa - they recently got torn a new as*e in the U21s by Aghagallon - a competition that St Johns will win with ease, possibly with no team getting within 10 points of them.

It is more than 5 yrs now since St Galls have been a force in Ulster and they are on the decline in Antrim.  St Johns, if they can bring their youth on through will be the next dominant force.

Only made it to Creggan Saturday.  Junior final looked like a junior final with a lack of real quality on both sides.  Some chat here last week about players missing but ultimately it was tactics that won the day with Davitts disciplined with the blanket and Glenravel totally devoid of ideas as a result though their shooting did not help their cause.

Intermediate final big let down also.  I thought Dunloy would have the big game mentality but ultimately easily overcome by a Glenavy team that certainly looked a division above them.

The positive of the day was the weather and the conditions, unfortunately the excitement could not match.

Now on to the U21 Championship - can anyone see past the like of St Johns or Creggan?

I am pretty sure Glenravel have at least one Irish League Player.

I have a copy of the '2015 Antrim Club Fixture Schedule (Final)' on my desktop and it clearly states Sat 17th Oct 'Jun and Int F.Finals' Sun 18th Oct 'Antrim Sen F.Ball Fin'.  I saved this document to my desktop on 25/02/2015 at 08:35.  Hopefully this put some of the arguing to bed.  Whether it makes for a better spectacle to play it another day I think is irrelevant when you are talking about scheduling way back in February.  It is a long time for teams and players to get the chance to arrange to show their true ambitions.

Some d*ng being talked here.  If you look up the Antrim Schedule of fixtures set out at the beginning of the year Intermediate and Junior Finals both set for this Saturday so stop crying about players availability, they should have known about this possibility before the season even began and before the last season of soccer even ended.  Some folk are always playing hard done by - to start moving things for given reasons would result in games never been played.  Wise up folk - any player could get injured in the run up or not be available for a host of reasons so get on with it and stop gurning about it.  I also think some players become better when they are missing.