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My god this has to end! Surely small incremental dualling (which eventually joins up) can be the first step. The worst sections to begin with. The Irish government boasting of huge surplus in cash surely can make steps as we can't rely on Tory Britain.

The criteria for "young" is pretty broad from memory. I would say Gannon would qualify for it too and he's a good one but McEvoy definitely should be right up there with the best of them.

I think it's still U21. Not 100%

Should be U23 in my opinion as there's been a few years lately where there has only been a very limited pick of eligible players.

Jack Glynn won it last year and he'd have been u22.

He certainly didn't hit the heights this year. Looked very average

Great podcast with Rogers ok.

Would there be any Glen people who are hurlers playing for Slaughtneil in the Hurling?

No hurling allowed in Glen!! 

From the current senior side Michael Warnock was a very good hurler - played for both Swatragh and Derry seniors. Some lads played a bit of underage for Swatragh. Stevie O'Hara was a decent underage hurler with Slaughtneil but never played senior. Think Conor Glass might have played a game or two for Lavey. He was an excellent hurler by all accounts.

Always felt that if Derry were serious about hurling they'd have been pushing Antrim and beating Antrim every year.

In my day hurling at minor level Derry clubs played in the Antrim leagues, they were every bit as good if not better that most Antrim clubs, and they secured plenty of school's competitions too.

But bog ball is king, S'niel showed how you can (at club level) mix it with the best

The crop of players in Slaughtneil are the exception. It won't be repeated (in terms of high level dual players).

Great podcast with Rogers ok.

Would there be any Glen people who are hurlers playing for Slaughtneil in the Hurling?

No hurling allowed in Glen!! 

From the current senior side Michael Warnock was a very good hurler - played for both Swatragh and Derry seniors. Some lads played a bit of underage for Swatragh. Stevie O'Hara was a decent underage hurler with Slaughtneil but never played senior. Think Conor Glass might have played a game or two for Lavey. He was an excellent hurler by all accounts.

I would think McEvoy would be in with a great shout for young player of the year

100% deserves it. A class act. Don't think Kerry or Dublin have any young lads to get it? Unless Lee Gannon is that young?

If Rogers doesn't get one it's a farce. Should have got one last year. McCluskey the other contender. McGuigan possibly. Can't see Mckinless despite his heroics last Sunday.

He's very good on the ball from what I've seen. Bit mental mind you. Maybe like a Bartez.

Anyone watched Succession? On season 2 and finding it a real drag. Awkward, cringy stuff with horrible characters. Not sure I've the will to finish it!

If it's not doing it for you by season 2, time to bin it.  It doesn't really change.

Cheers lad. Think I will.

Losing McGrogan cost Derry the jGame

Part of the plan to target players?

I agree he was a huge loss and I thought the "tackle" after he kicked his score was dangerous and warranted action from the ref.

I haven't seen any footage of that tackle at all. It isn't getting highlighted anywhere that i can see.
Who was the tackler?

I don't know who the tackler was but I honestly thought it wasn't good yet no talk of it. He had a free shot then next think you know he's busted - how does that happen?

Did the defender not dive to make the block and caught McGrogan on the follow through? By accident?

Anyone watched Succession? On season 2 and finding it a real drag. Awkward, cringy stuff with horrible characters. Not sure I've the will to finish it!

Firstly well played Derry and ye really put it up to the Kingdom much better than I thought ye would.
Excellent first half with them really going for it in attack and not just sitting back and trying to defend in numbers.

Thought McKinless, Rogers, McFaul and McGuigan played well but was very disappointed with Glass. I know White is fast but Glass didn't really try too hard to track his run for the Kerry goal. Surely he should be one of the main leaders of that team but thought he went missing today.
Kerry certainly weren't going to be outmuscled today and played with their now well know cynical edge that isn't always obvious from watching on TV.

As most of us know, it's very hard for a ref to make the right decision in that split second something happens. How many times have you been sure about something at a match to come home and watch it and change your mind. Clifford's shoulder on McGuigan looked terrible in real time but from replays it was a clean shoulder.
I think the ref was not giving McGuigan much protection during the game and he was definitely targeted but maybe Joe felt McGuigan and others were always holding their head when they got a knock, even if hit elsewhere.
I think at the end McGuigan was not happy to shake the Kerry defenders hands and O'Connor as he felt he was unfairly targetted but he eventually did.

Derry have learnt a lot since their defeat to Galway last year and certainly showed they are up there now at the top table.
If they had a few more decent forwards they could go all the way.
They will be disappointed how the second half panned out and I agree that Lynch is far too slow for playing as a sweeper keeper. He has a good long shot but he is an accident waiting to happen. No urgency.
I presume there will be no retirements from that team.

Good balanced post Fuzz. I agree especially on Conor Glass. All of Derrys 'big name players' really delivered massive performances - bar Glass. Ive always viewed Glass as a bit meek, passive and ponderous. And a very strange choice as captain, when there are evidently better leaders elsewhere on the team.
Perhaps Gallagher gave him the captains armband to try and get in his head and really put it to him? ... to try and force him to step up a bit. He has the tools in his locker but just seems unable to use them.
Derry will be back - they are in a great place. People say its a long way back - its not really. They are practically guaranteed to be in the Quarter finals next summer. The age range in the squad is ideal. Defeats like yesterday build character & resolve, they will take some stopping.
Need to work on developing the squad depth over the winter, and need to find another scoring forward. But yesterday was hugely impressive. Their trajectory has continued to rise, when many including myself thought it would plateau. And they have young talent on the horizon, their underage teams have been excellent this last 5 or 6 years

If you think Conor isn't a leader then you know sweet FA about football.

he plays the media game well in fairness

Oh sweet jesus.

Firstly well played Derry and ye really put it up to the Kingdom much better than I thought ye would.
Excellent first half with them really going for it in attack and not just sitting back and trying to defend in numbers.

Thought McKinless, Rogers, McFaul and McGuigan played well but was very disappointed with Glass. I know White is fast but Glass didn't really try too hard to track his run for the Kerry goal. Surely he should be one of the main leaders of that team but thought he went missing today.
Kerry certainly weren't going to be outmuscled today and played with their now well know cynical edge that isn't always obvious from watching on TV.

As most of us know, it's very hard for a ref to make the right decision in that split second something happens. How many times have you been sure about something at a match to come home and watch it and change your mind. Clifford's shoulder on McGuigan looked terrible in real time but from replays it was a clean shoulder.
I think the ref was not giving McGuigan much protection during the game and he was definitely targeted but maybe Joe felt McGuigan and others were always holding their head when they got a knock, even if hit elsewhere.
I think at the end McGuigan was not happy to shake the Kerry defenders hands and O'Connor as he felt he was unfairly targetted but he eventually did.

Derry have learnt a lot since their defeat to Galway last year and certainly showed they are up there now at the top table.
If they had a few more decent forwards they could go all the way.
They will be disappointed how the second half panned out and I agree that Lynch is far too slow for playing as a sweeper keeper. He has a good long shot but he is an accident waiting to happen. No urgency.
I presume there will be no retirements from that team.

Good balanced post Fuzz. I agree especially on Conor Glass. All of Derrys 'big name players' really delivered massive performances - bar Glass. Ive always viewed Glass as a bit meek, passive and ponderous. And a very strange choice as captain, when there are evidently better leaders elsewhere on the team.
Perhaps Gallagher gave him the captains armband to try and get in his head and really put it to him? ... to try and force him to step up a bit. He has the tools in his locker but just seems unable to use them.
Derry will be back - they are in a great place. People say its a long way back - its not really. They are practically guaranteed to be in the Quarter finals next summer. The age range in the squad is ideal. Defeats like yesterday build character & resolve, they will take some stopping.
Need to work on developing the squad depth over the winter, and need to find another scoring forward. But yesterday was hugely impressive. Their trajectory has continued to rise, when many including myself thought it would plateau. And they have young talent on the horizon, their underage teams have been excellent this last 5 or 6 years

If you think Conor isn't a leader then you know sweet FA about football.

Rodgers was brilliant, love watching him play. Glass was poor I thought and when Kerry pushed up on the kickouts in the last 10 they won them. Derry had chances but couldn't take them and just are not good enough to win Sam

I wish Rodgers played for Armagh.

Was one of the Kerry panel giving Shane McGuigan grief after the final whistle?

Elaborate on that one for us. Verbals?

No it is not. Turning so that your side takes the impact is completely natural.

It's probably a red in rugby. One free that really annoyed me was McEvoy dispossessing Geaney on the 14 out under Hogan then Geaney seemed to go down very easy to buy a free.

Dublin will win the final by 4-5 points comfortably.

Any idea of expected attendance? 40-50k?