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What a player Conhuir is

Agreed with you the club's BS and there's no doubt about the disappointing results at minor and schools level.

I personally don't have a vested interest, I was just giving my view on Saint Louis which I think is a fair assessment even though I did attend the school.

How do we sort the county development and schools?

Flanker you raise a fair point but there are many variables to consider in that.  St Louis doesn't get many students from some of the top SW clubs just based on geography to St Mary's Magherafelt which is the closest school and historically was seen as a better school for academic performance.  When dealing with history you would have some parents also wanting the child to go to the same school they did.

The quality of the school team no matter who the coach is will be driven by the success of the Clubs closest to the school and for the players in those clubs to pass the transfer test to get it.

The most successful group of players in my memory of the school had players who were involved in multiple minor championships wins with Sean Stinsons along with a couple of standout players from Glenravel and input from Rasharkin,Dunloy and even Tir Na Nog who were strong at underage then too.

Agreed on results but there is definitely more GAA in the school than ever and that now has to be moved on to the next level.

You raised St Ronans who have risen to a great level but there are big differences there with St Louis and that's not just on the staff side. 

As has been raised it's up to clubs to provide the standard of player to excel as schools level and this is the one challenge everyone on here can actually have an effect on

[Agree both clubs have strong underage structures]

I'd love to know what St Louis are doing to promote football. I don't see any evidence of it anywhere. Gearoid Adams was appointed to oversee this project but that didn't work out very well before he departed for a job closer to home.

I know that the school principal was disappointed that this project fell through and from what I see no one else has revived it since. I wouldn't be holding St Louis up as any kind of shining example Dreen, you are clutching at straws here and you know that. In my book NO Antrim school is punching anywhere near its weight in football terms. For hurling there is always the Antrim Hurling Page where people can wax lyrical if they want!

I'm clutching at nothing BS, I stated fact.  There is a greater Gaelic Games ethos in St Louis than there was 20 years ago when for years soccer was pushed before anything.
The hurling will be strong due to the Dunloy and Loughgiel in the school quite simply.
There is no doubt that football there has room for progression but with the facilities already there and the new development taking place this year no one can doubt the background work being done to promote in St Louis.

There is a Senior county camog, a multiple derry championship winning hurling and football player, a current Antrim senior player, a county u20 hurling coach with his share of success in club hurling, and Hogan winning captain involved with teams in the school at present and I see that as positive.

You hail Holy Trinity and rightly so but firstly they don't have to work with hurling and they are surrounded by football clubs who we know are working at a higher level than some of our clubs.


See the virtual tour below on twitter


https://twitter.com/i/status/1486456710566920202

The hurling will be strong due to the Dunloy and Loughgiel in the school quite simply. Agree both clubs have strong underage structures

You hail Holy Trinity and rightly so but firstly they don't have to work with hurling and they are surrounded by football clubs who we know are working at a higher level than some of our clubs.

There are 3 schools in Tyrone competing @MacRory level(all got out of group stage) who draw and overlap with some or all of their catchement area + some pupils in their catchment area go to St Marys

There are several schools in their catchment area competing @ B & C levels also.

In football terms I will accept correction on this but as BS has indicated there is little or no evidence of progression from a results perspective than when there were 0, 1, 2 .... teachers half interested.  This is B competition as well

FYI St Ronans who won MacRory & Hogan don't have a pitch @ all so 3G's & virtual tours are all excellent but I'm afraid it misses the point of significant under achievement.

Progress in Hurling (This is effectively B competition as Ulster doesn't compete @ A)  Camogie & Ladies football is very welcome but there is a long way to go

Key question, do pupils have to all pass a transfer test to get to these A schools?

I am not in anyway saying St Louis are cutting the mustard in football, anyone who has ever discussed it with me would know I think it has underachieved.  I was lucky enough to have some very good footballing days at the school in the 90's when we had no facilities but I'd make the point that if the school is looking for a presence in the school to drive success in B football with the infrastructure that is there it would be a great job for someone to take.

I'd love to know what St Louis are doing to promote football. I don't see any evidence of it anywhere. Gearoid Adams was appointed to oversee this project but that didn't work out very well before he departed for a job closer to home.

I know that the school principal was disappointed that this project fell through and from what I see no one else has revived it since. I wouldn't be holding St Louis up as any kind of shining example Dreen, you are clutching at straws here and you know that. In my book NO Antrim school is punching anywhere near its weight in football terms. For hurling there is always the Antrim Hurling Page where people can wax lyrical if they want!

I'm clutching at nothing BS, I stated fact.  There is a greater Gaelic Games ethos in St Louis than there was 20 years ago when for years soccer was pushed before anything.
The hurling will be strong due to the Dunloy and Loughgiel in the school quite simply.
There is no doubt that football there has room for progression but with the facilities already there and the new development taking place this year no one can doubt the background work being done to promote in St Louis.

There is a Senior county camog, a multiple derry championship winning hurling and football player, a current Antrim senior player, a county u20 hurling coach with his share of success in club hurling, and Hogan winning captain involved with teams in the school at present and I see that as positive.

You hail Holy Trinity and rightly so but firstly they don't have to work with hurling and they are surrounded by football clubs who we know are working at a higher level than some of our clubs.


See the virtual tour below on twitter


https://twitter.com/i/status/1486456710566920202

There has been a big shift in GAA in Saint Louis over the last 20 years.  In the late 90's there was probably 3 or 4 teachers pushing Gaelic games now it's part of the ethos of the school.

Hurling is still the king in terms of competing at A Grade and with the talent in the school from the local hurling clubs that will continue.

It would be great to see our schools win more B Grade titles at all ages to start with

Not saying education is behind at all but the assumption is your best footballers are attending Sigerson uni's. This isn't always the case as some won't go to 3rd level education and some may not attend the ones that are Sigerson level.

UU has a very strong Tyrone contingent and the likes of Loughlin and Glass from Derry.

First question to ask is how many of our players are at university?

that can't be lead by the county board

Spoofer well thought of in Rasharkin and we had no issues in his 3 years at Dreen.

RC you need a better bullshit detector

Just what I was about to post Bannside.
On another note would love to see St Comgalls win junior, some great lads have given so much time to that club, plus they are playing Rasharkin!.
Also to scotchy and All Saints, who I believe should be a comfortable mid table Div 1/senior championship side.

Oul rivalries showing up, you would think you would wish your near neighbours well in the junior final

r u not Allowed to go up the country on a wed night and beat a SW team any mor? sour grapes wine

Can't really be classed as up the country that trip, though the direction was South West right enough

has your club ever paid expenses?

I'm not a fan of paying coaches but when a club is left without options within, what do they do?
The workload involved with senior management is heavy and there aren't always people stepping up to do it.
It's ok for people to say about coaches working with underage teams but in truth how many are capable of managing a group of 30 adults?