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#181
Good article on F365

IF ManYoo fans were in need of any evidence of the precarious nature of their Premiership title challenge, they need only acknowledge the fact that they still need a result against Benfica in the final Champions League group match, despite three victories in the opening three games of the campaign.

Defeat to Celtic was an anomaly - there is no doubt that United were the better team, they just had an attack of the Arsenals and failed to turn almost total domination into goals. Nobody should lose any sleep over that, apart from The Neviller, who really should have taken the ball off the shaking Louis Saha and given it to Wayne Rooney or Ronaldo.

At times during that first half, United were playing sumptuous football. But just like the Arsenal of the last two seasons, all that pace and power and precision did not lead to real clear-cut chances thanks to a combination of poor final balls, stout Celtic defending and an atmosphere so intense that even a multi-million pound footballer could be forgiven for feeling a little tense.

The most worrying aspect of the evening for a United fan must have been a plaintive look towards the bench to see who could possibly create that elusive goal. There they would have found Kieran Richardson, Darren Fletcher and John O'Shea - a salient reminder of the depth of Sir Alex Ferguson's squad (think the shallow end of a paddling pool).

Ferguson played his best XI (I'll leave the left-back question for real Reds to discuss at a later, duller date) and they played - up until the final third - some remarkable football. But despite a lack of a tangible injury list, the options beyond that XI were woeful for a club with European and Premiership silverware ambitions.

It is the lack of options beyond that first-choice XI that has done the real damage to this Champions League campaign. In Copenhagen, Ferguson decided to rest the old soldiers of this squad and found that it is the old soldiers that are central to his plans of winning a second European trophy and ending Chelsea's domestic dominance.

The team he sent to Denmark featured Wes Brown instead of The Neviller, Fletcher instead of Ryan Giggs and O'Shea instead of Paul Scholes. He opted for younger legs for a game sandwiched between two Premiership matches, but found that the feet attached to those younger legs were incapable of reaching the footballing heights needed to beat a below-average Copenhagen side.

Then we all know what happened at Roots Hall when again ManYoo showed us the depth of their squad by capitulating against a side destined for League One. Some United-supporting F365ers wrote of their lack of faith in a Premiership campaign being waged by such a paper-thin squad, and some nodded in agreement despite the usual protestations from the 'Fergie knows best' camp.

Ferguson talks of the challenge of creating a third great United team, but the problem is that the remnants of the second great United team are so central to that new side. Without them, United struggle, and they are increasingly having to make do without one, two or all three of them. And the replacements are not really fit to lace their boots - decent players they might be, but stalwarts of a title-winning side? Not a chance.

United have undoubtedly played the best football of any Premiership side this season, but sustaining this form for another six months means somehow keeping that first XI fit. Actually, never mind six months, somehow Scholes, Giggs and Neville must rouse themselves again on Sunday against Chelsea despite having played 90 minutes against Celtic on Tuesday night.

This is realistically the last season in which that triumvirate are going to be central to Ferguson's plans. But is their last hurrah coming in a squad that cannot cope with their absence? If they have any sway at all with their manager, they should be pointing him towards the sales racks in January.


#182
GAA Discussion / Re: 2007 All Stars
November 22, 2006, 01:13:39 PM
I've a funny feeling we both might be disappointed....
#183
GAA Discussion / Re: 2007 All Stars
November 22, 2006, 12:13:21 PM
I don't, I want Tom O Sullivan to get one to help me win some money! Don't think he will though  :-\
#184
GAA Discussion / Re: 2007 All Stars
November 22, 2006, 11:50:57 AM
Any idea what the process is for announcing these? Should be more of a fanfare about it
#186
They need to sell

O Shea
Silvestre
Richardson

At least the above, and start getting some more quality in.
#187
Typical of the United of the last few years, they just don't inspire confidence away from home. It was one of those nights when watching the game I just knew what was going to happen. Celtic's best chance was always from a free kick, and the length of time the ref took at the time of the penalty, and Sahas body language before it, I knew he would miss it  >:(

I can see a trophyless season unless they get another forward, and a holding midfilder. They need to stop this shite of playing Rooney anywhere other than up front.
The problem with situations like last night is that they had their best team on, and no-one on the bench would improve the team in ANY way.....brutal, can't bring myself to read the reports......

PS, what the hell has happened to Heinze.....?

#188
GAA Discussion / Re: Plastic Pitches
November 21, 2006, 06:50:41 PM
Lynchboy, I've trained on it with mouldies and studs, mouldies are better methinks. You would not know the difference  to a good summer regular pitch, though the bounce is a bit duller (would have to see it to know what I mean!)


#189
GAA Discussion / Re: Joyce and Donnellan Retire
November 17, 2006, 01:38:57 PM
That point by Donnelan in '98 will long live in the memory, probably one of the best points I have ever witnessed in the flesh

Hope the two boys enjoy their retirement
#190
GAA Discussion / Re: Rory Gallagher, the new Cavan man
November 17, 2006, 12:17:34 PM
Why would he join Cavan? I think a couple of reasons
1. He's mad to play county football...with anyone
2. Believebelieves version is one I've heard before....and seems the most widely accepted. I think his bridges have been burnt with Fermanagh while Mulgrew is in charge, and he will be for the next few years
3. I think probably Cavan because of the McHugh connection
#191
GAA Discussion / Re: Skill and GAA
November 16, 2006, 11:35:33 AM
Good point, I was referring to football though, in fairness you can't accuse too many hurlers playing at the top level of a lack of skill.
#192
GAA Discussion / Skill and GAA
November 16, 2006, 11:27:24 AM
Theres a great article on football365 about the demise of the winger. When reading it I couldn't help think that he could have been talking about GAA wing forwards especially this part

QuoteSpeed is everything now. Athleticism seems to matter more than creativity. But to me, and to millions of others who grew up in watching top-notch players waltz through a defence and back-heel one in, this is to the overall detriment of the game.

Athleticism isn't as important as entertainment. All the speed of the modern game has done is to, apparently, exhaust players quicker, make them injured more often, reduce the number of flair players and dribblers in the game and replaced them with unimaginative, rather boring box-to-box grindcore footballers who play percentage football, do the job but don't excite the soul or mind

Anyone agree? Is the day of the skilful wingforward beating his man inside out and sticking one over gone or at least on the way out?
#193
GAA Discussion / Re: Cheeky Dubs cash in on Xmas
November 16, 2006, 09:09:04 AM
Lads for gods sake a change every three years is not exactly ripping the paying public off.

Lecale, I have to say that suggestion below is crazy! Are you allowed to make more changes if you win the all-ireland than if you win the provincial title?
#194
GAA Discussion / Re: Rory Gallagher, the new Cavan man
November 16, 2006, 07:52:06 AM
I don't think money is the reason with Gallagher, he's not short of it.
The reason I have heard is that he wants to play county football.

Presume his and Keogans mutual friendship with McHugh brought this about.
#195
GAA Discussion / Re: Cheeky Dubs cash in on Xmas
November 16, 2006, 07:49:42 AM
Quotejust three years after its last change.

I thought that was standard practice for the Dubs and most county teams (though I know Offaly haven't changed theres since 1888 :))