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Aidan o Mahoney reckons if the Kerry forwards clique they will go to town on Mayo , he also goes on to say "Kerry won't be bullied , mark my words". Has a bit of a pop at James Horan in a roundabout way saying how dare he say mayo could of won league final by ten points "

So it's Bow to the kingdom little old mayo

I dont really understand this. the kerry folk seem very upset about Horan's comment, but as far as i can tell, the league final score flattered Kerry. 12 points maybe an exaggerration but they def could and should have won by more.

Even if Mayo lose at the weekend, they'll beat Donegal if they absolutely have to. Mayo play better in do or die situations and if they have to get one over Donegal, they will.

Anyone think Kevin Walsh might not go?

[League final was a baptism of fire for young Sean O'Se. I expect he'll have learned from it.]

Mayo bullied Kerry in the league final. Physically, they seemed bigger, and stronger in the tackle. Not sure how Kerry will have improved on that front. Mayo totally controlled midfield that day too. Kerry will have David Moran back this time though, and Aidan O'Shea didn't look 100% to me against Galway, so could be a battle there. Barry is not a top level midfielder to my mind. Vaughan could contain him.

If Kerry can get the ball into Clifford often and cleanly though, I think he'll give that Mayo full back line a torrid time. Harrison struggled to hold him in the league final and could be a long afternoon for him if any sort of good ball goes into Clifford.

League final was a baptism of fire for young Sean O'Se. I expect he'll have learned from it.

Kerry have great forward options that could do serious damage, but defence is a shambles though. No natural defenders on that team. Wonder will Mayo introduce Andy Moran just to give Shane Enright a few flashbacks to 2017?

Based on recent meetings, I'd say Mayo to win. But this Mayo team are a peculiar bunch. As I said in the Galway v Mayo thread, they seem to enjoy chaos and don't seem satisfied unless they're involved in some kind of battle. So as always, it'll probably end up being a very close run thing. If they can contain Clifford and control the middle, I think Mayo will win. If David Moran lords it for Kerry in the middle and lets the ball into the forwards, Kerry FF line could run riot..

I hope he receives better protection from referee and linesmen. Couldn't buy a free in league final.

People keep saying this. I don't see what there was to complain about honestly. SOS was outfoxed that day. He is young and learned the hard way. He'll improve from it.

Who actually played MF for Mayo with AOS? Was it Vaughan or Coen? It was hard to see on the TV

Couldn't tell either. Vaughan definitely started there, but Coen seemed to hovering around too. Maybe some rotation between the two?

It isn't entirely Walsh's fault. The players have to take some responsibility, but there still seems to be this overriding opinion that the squad will suddenly come good with a change of management. I don't see it myself. Walsh didn't have them playing a pretty style but they lack some mental fortitude and often seem to get ahead of themselves in games.

Mayo bullied Kerry in the league final. Physically, they seemed bigger, and stronger in the tackle. Not sure how Kerry will have improved on that front. Mayo totally controlled midfield that day too. Kerry will have David Moran back this time though, and Aidan O'Shea didn't look 100% to me against Galway, so could be a battle there. Barry is not a top level midfielder to my mind. Vaughan could contain him.

If Kerry can get the ball into Clifford often and cleanly though, I think he'll give that Mayo full back line a torrid time. Harrison struggled to hold him in the league final and could be a long afternoon for him if any sort of good ball goes into Clifford.

League final was a baptism of fire for young Sean O'Se. I expect he'll have learned from it.

Kerry have great forward options that could do serious damage, but defence is a shambles though. No natural defenders on that team. Wonder will Mayo introduce Andy Moran just to give Shane Enright a few flashbacks to 2017?

Based on recent meetings, I'd say Mayo to win. But this Mayo team are a peculiar bunch. As I said in the Galway v Mayo thread, they seem to enjoy chaos and don't seem satisfied unless they're involved in some kind of battle. So as always, it'll probably end up being a very close run thing. If they can contain Clifford and control the middle, I think Mayo will win. If David Moran lords it for Kerry in the middle and lets the ball into the forwards, Kerry FF line could run riot..

Even if Galway get a new manager, I'm not convinced they'll suddenly become a formidable force. There's an attitude problem within the squad that rears its head now and again and often at key moments. They don't have the stomach for a battle. More than the game yesterday, I thought it showed up badly in the Connacht final. They thought they had that game won at half time and complacency set in and once Roscommon's tail went up, the Galway heads dropped. Not for the first time with this Galway team. Complacency seems to be a consistent issue. So many years of treating wins over Mayo in Connacht like all Ireland final wins seems to have something to do with it. They seemed to have been satisfied with beating Mayo in Connacht and then wilting as soon as it came to Croke Park.

Then yesterday, they should have known that Mayo would be up for it, but they were fairly gutless in response. Like I said, no fight in them, no battling qualities. Now you can put some of that down to management and the possibility that Kevin Walsh has lost the dressing room, but the players have to take some responsibility, especially for the Connacht final display.

As for Mayo, they are team that seem to enjoy chaos and backs to the wall situations and going man to man with them for this game played into their hands. They love a good battle and have the heart for it, which Galway just don't.