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Invading syria would be pointless. Over 50000 libyans died after nato's intervention. the only thing the west can offer the region is hypocrisy.

can you provide a source for this 50,000 number? it has the whiff of bullshit inflated for your own purposes.

"the only thing the west can offer the region is hypocrisy," right, and the only thing an outsider can ever do if another place is going up in smoke is invade it, right. well you'd better turn off your youtube stream so you don't see any of those daily videos of Assad's massacres getting through, might disturb your righteousness.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/08/30/libya.war/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Remember the excuse given for the carpet bombing  intervention in Libya was the protection of civilians.

The Middle East has been f**ked so many times for the sake of oil and Israel.
Say France and UK intervene in Syria. What would you expect them to achieve?   
And who are the good guys?

Did France invade Northern Ireland during its civil war ? Just wondering. Would it have been better to kill say 30,000 Nordies via a co-ordinated bombing campaign and then see what happened next? 

i wish i could be so certain about things as you. must make life easier.

for a start, estimates of casualties in the Libyan War vary. the estimate you quote from the heat of battle in August is way above any later estimate. the Libyans themselves say 25-30,000 lost their lives, including fighters and civilians.   

carpet-bombing? this is david icke territory. did you see how sarkozy and cameron were received when they set foot in benghazi after the war? bet you hope things get worse and worse there after the elections.

i would try to argue why the UN cannot let Assad continuing butchering his own people, why every case in the Arab Uprisings is different, but I really think there is no point. Intervention is always, in every case evil, right, West is always bad.

France and Northern Ireland. Mmm. Good one.

Invading syria would be pointless. Over 50000 libyans died after nato's intervention. the only thing the west can offer the region is hypocrisy.

can you provide a source for this 50,000 number? it has the whiff of bullshit inflated for your own purposes.

"the only thing the west can offer the region is hypocrisy," right, and the only thing an outsider can ever do if another place is going up in smoke is invade it, right. well you'd better turn off your youtube stream so you don't see any of those daily videos of Assad's massacres getting through, might disturb your righteousness.   

Any chance of the score?

sweet

on checking, Blair's "courageous Mubarak, force for good" comment on CNN was made in the context of his role in the I/P situation, and also before today's events it should be added. doesn't redeem the comments very much but still it's not as blatant as is being reported in some sources. 

Seafoid, I think the people's anger will be directed at the US more than Israel for Obama's reluctance to publically condemn Mubarek and support an uprising for democracy. Anti-Israel sentiment has been very conspicuous by its absence during the protests 

By the way, Tony Blair's contribution on CNN, "Mubarak is immensely courageous and a force for good" was truly nauseating.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/8612039.stm

Who's Stevie McDonald?? yer man from Coronation street's playing on Sunday?

and many commiserations to the fine footballing county of Mayo, as someone said above, it took away from it a little bit that it was Mayo, would that it were Down in the final instead..

4 out of 5 national finals won this decade, 3 of them in Croke Park, not bad at all, changed times indeed for a county which was noted for Croke Park and final debacles, many many congrats to all involved and let's look forward to more of the same in the coming decade 

think he meant calendar year

congrats to kerry, the yardstick by which we are all measured. Was Darren O'Sullivan's point a double hop? That was the one that finally snuffed out any faint hope of a revival. Looked like it but a ref near me reckoned he'd only one hand on the second one and hence it was legal.

If you're funny you can get away with it. Tiernan isn't and deserves all he gets over this.

How did Monday night in the club go? Declan McKenna, first Harpsman to lift an All-Ireland for Armagh 

He had it but he lost it. Nice guy for sure, respect for 91 and 94 etc but he's from Down. End of. Next?