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#16
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
August 08, 2023, 08:03:01 AM
MR2 agree people calling 6 months are maybe exagerrating abit..

However regards the rules is there any scope for a referee to distinguish types of striking in their report?

On this occasion i personally feel 1 match is too lenient (2-3 is what I'd judge appropriate) I also understand we don't have the capacity to judge each incident and trial them separately hence why we standardise and have a referee report and set punishments.

Real question is - is dangerous & on this occasion possibly intentional striking round the head treated the same as say shafting someone when it comes to suspension?

#17
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
August 07, 2023, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 07, 2023, 11:24:07 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 06, 2023, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 06, 2023, 09:36:46 PM
Clutching at straws here.

One handed and with force.


Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 06, 2023, 09:22:47 PM
I'd maybe give him the benefit of the doubt and suggest extremely miss timed and reckless?

The one handed is the giveaway, no intention of playing the ball

Did he get a red card ?

It's not a foul to pull one handed on a ball, not having seen the incident you're talking about though!


Agreed one handed isn't a foul however once you see the video you'll understand. Wasn't near the ball, wasn't near the flight path. 4/5yards off the player who played the ball. Straight slap to the head. It's bad.

The player has had a moment of madness, its a dirty stroke and if we're talking rugby and looking for mitigating circumstances I don't see any.

Luckily naomh wanna player wasnt seriously hurt. Mcmullan is young hopefully it's a lesson he learns from, takes his punishment and that's it buried.
#18
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
August 07, 2023, 08:51:29 AM
Swing wasn't anywhere in the direction of the ball.

Player wasn't looking at the ball.

Deliberate & easiest red the ref will give all year.

Trying to give some benefit of the doubt... Player has seen red mist and intends to clear the sky and leave abit on the naomh eanna player, red mist means he's not judging anything correctly and the stroke ends up in a pure strike of the player and nothing else.

Either way its an awful dirty stroke and as a county player would expect better
#19
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
June 25, 2023, 09:51:26 PM
Certainly been a great year and massive strides forward

We all single players out who should/shouldn't be getting game time etc i find it strange Eastwood has played very little championship football. Certainly on the smaller side but to me he's one of those players when on the ball you feel like something is happening

#20
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
June 13, 2023, 11:29:51 PM
Yeah fair, think 2 of them played for Rossa at some stage

Think they both originate club/location from Ardoyne area

Still great to see for an area like North Belfast. Certainly should be more Garlic games & numbers so can only be a good thing
#21
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
June 13, 2023, 05:25:06 PM
Don't believe any of the ardoyne team would be from West Belfast

From what i heard a few years back when they were getting things up and running it was very much an open to all skills level invite for anyone in the community. Also if not mistaken i believe they identified a number of players from the catchment area who wouldve previously played for st endas that no longer hurled and offered an environment to simply pick up a hurl go to training and see what happens.

Fair play to them!
#22
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
June 06, 2023, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 06, 2023, 03:15:44 PM
Quote from: saffman on June 06, 2023, 02:24:26 PM
Yeah not the most straightforward and i personally would've thought points between the head to head teams better than score difference - however this was communicated to the clubs prior to the league commencing and if I'm correct was recommended by week 3/4 of fixtures

Seeing on some social media that portaferry believe this is a ploy to stop 3 Ards teams getting top half - certainly clutching at straws

Where are you seeing that?

Twitter - one of 2 players posting/sharing about it

Agree the league positions have raised a few eyebrows, wouldn't have thought st endas, ballycastle or ballygalget wouldve been top half

Similarly cushendall & portaferry were top 2 last year and find themselves bottom half

Availability of county players certainly plays its part but end if the day league needs played and you don't get points for namesake therefore i think its refreshing and will strengthen the league going forward if we do see a league competitive with every team capable of wins on their day
#23
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
June 06, 2023, 02:24:26 PM
Yeah not the most straightforward and i personally would've thought points between the head to head teams better than score difference - however this was communicated to the clubs prior to the league commencing and if I'm correct was recommended by week 3/4 of fixtures

Seeing on some social media that portaferry believe this is a ploy to stop 3 Ards teams getting top half - certainly clutching at straws
#24
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
June 06, 2023, 09:42:59 AM
Ballycastle - +6
lost to Dall by 5 - beat port by 11


Cushendall + 5
Beat ballycastle by 5 - drew to portaferry

Portaferry -11
Lost by 11 to ballycastle - drew to cushendall

All teams & players were made aware of this before the league started
#25
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
June 05, 2023, 03:36:09 PM
Correct Tommygunn - Ballycastle get top half
Portaferry & Cushendall in the bottom group
#26
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
May 23, 2023, 04:28:37 PM
Im thinking WM win last week sets us up better

Injuries are never a good thing and the more players back the better but IF and a big IF we thought WM were below us and come the last day we turn up, beat them and stay in the LmcC then last week totally dispels any thoughts of that

The players/management and everyone in Antrim now know exactly what we are facing at the weekend, with that attitude i am then confident that the players we have on the pitch are better than WM and will get the result needed
#27
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
May 12, 2023, 10:06:05 AM
I think its the balance of appreciating top stars coming to Corrigan along with not pure fanning over them.

Our lads are on the pitch competing with these stars at the same level, would like to see more coverage of our players
#28
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
May 03, 2023, 04:34:41 PM
I heard bottom relegated

Winner of each division plays 2nd bottom in a playoff

This is to correct the no relationship during covid
#29
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
April 26, 2023, 10:59:22 AM
Just to 'throw' in my tupence on the handpass - pardon the pun...

Agree with MR on this and his application - hurling is played at 100mph and no ref in the country will NE able to position themselves perfectly for every play (its impossible) you can't be blowing fouls for throwballs unless the ref sees a throwball.

We also can't be having referees guess and blowing up because they're assuming no striking action takes place. that's a slippery slope i wouldn't want to go down regards ruining the game.

Also dissappointing to see foks want the game referred to the technicality of the rulebook, its the very thing that will again ruin the game.

#30
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
April 09, 2023, 08:51:23 PM
That's what mcentee said in pre season and very much the reason the teams top scorer is regularly on the bench

Why else are sub standard players starting or on the panel when in reality some of them would struggle to make a top 4 division 1 team